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Dengru
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:46:00 -
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Scrambler rifle users seem want to think there is a essential difference between them and other AR users, and that theres some trick and skill to their weapon others cannot pick up on
Just like mass driver users liked to think there was a difference between them an other players, and we all remember what happened when everyone spec into proto MDs.
People are gonna see.. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2079
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:50:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Imperial is the next Tac AR but better Except it is actually worse than the old TAC AR in many ways. Con's: -less optimum range than the TAC AR -overheats, really easily -laser, not hybrid (not technically worse, but armor has since become a FotM) -it actually has less DPS than the old TAC AR did Not quite a Con, but worth mentioning. -Optical Sight vs ACOG-like scope. I prefer it actually, but I've seen people whine about it.
It does more damage per bullet than the TAC AR....rof is up to the trigger man.
A lot of this stuff sounds good on paper, but practically, the Imperial is a bigger beast than the TAC AR. The only problem with it is that it overheats. And that is only a problem in CQC situations. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
779
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:54:00 -
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Dengru wrote:Scrambler rifle users seem want to think there is a essential difference between them and other AR users, and that theres some trick and skill to their weapon others cannot pick up on
Just like mass driver users liked to think there was a difference between them an other players, and we all remember what happened when everyone spec into proto MDs.
People are gonna see..
Except there is undoubtedly more skill required to use the ScR effectively than there is to use the AR effectively.
If you think they take less than or equal skill than an AR, you are delusional.
The ScR has actual drawbacks, something the AR is really lacking.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2079
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:56:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Dengru wrote:Scrambler rifle users seem want to think there is a essential difference between them and other AR users, and that theres some trick and skill to their weapon others cannot pick up on
Just like mass driver users liked to think there was a difference between them an other players, and we all remember what happened when everyone spec into proto MDs.
People are gonna see.. Except there is undoubtedly more skill required to use the ScR effectively than there is to use the AR effectively. If you think they take less than or equal skill than an AR, you are delusional. The ScR has actual drawbacks, something the AR is really lacking.
Besides overheating...what is the difference between the two?? |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
779
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:00:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Imperial is the next Tac AR but better Except it is actually worse than the old TAC AR in many ways. Con's: -less optimum range than the TAC AR -overheats, really easily -laser, not hybrid (not technically worse, but armor has since become a FotM) -it actually has less DPS than the old TAC AR did Not quite a Con, but worth mentioning. -Optical Sight vs ACOG-like scope. I prefer it actually, but I've seen people whine about it. It does more damage per bullet than the TAC AR....rof is up to the trigger man. A lot of this stuff sounds good on paper, but practically, the Imperial is a bigger beast than the TAC AR. The only problem with it is that it overheats. And that is only a problem in CQC situations.
Are you really forgetting how bad the TAC AR was?
It actually replaced Duvolles comepletely. No other weapon has been OP enough to do that, not even the MDs.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2080
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:06:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Imperial is the next Tac AR but better Except it is actually worse than the old TAC AR in many ways. Con's: -less optimum range than the TAC AR -overheats, really easily -laser, not hybrid (not technically worse, but armor has since become a FotM) -it actually has less DPS than the old TAC AR did Not quite a Con, but worth mentioning. -Optical Sight vs ACOG-like scope. I prefer it actually, but I've seen people whine about it. It does more damage per bullet than the TAC AR....rof is up to the trigger man. A lot of this stuff sounds good on paper, but practically, the Imperial is a bigger beast than the TAC AR. The only problem with it is that it overheats. And that is only a problem in CQC situations. Are you really forgetting how bad the TAC AR was? It actually replaced Duvolles comepletely. No other weapon has been OP enough to do that, not even the MDs.
I picked up the Imperial and stopped using the Duvolle and the Carthum Assault Scr. The only reason I put it down is because it overheats rather quickly in CQC. But then when I fit an smg in my Cal Assault suit, I have no problem. Will be better once I get my amarr suit. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
779
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:13:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Dengru wrote:Scrambler rifle users seem want to think there is a essential difference between them and other AR users, and that theres some trick and skill to their weapon others cannot pick up on
Just like mass driver users liked to think there was a difference between them an other players, and we all remember what happened when everyone spec into proto MDs.
People are gonna see.. Except there is undoubtedly more skill required to use the ScR effectively than there is to use the AR effectively. If you think they take less than or equal skill than an AR, you are delusional. The ScR has actual drawbacks, something the AR is really lacking. Besides overheating...what is the difference between the two??
Semi Auto rather than Full auto? Laser instead of Hybrid? Secondary Fire option?
The differences are quite obvious.
Do you honestly think the AR takes more skill to use effectively than the ScR?
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Zatara Rought
Imperfects
1639
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:16:00 -
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TBH I keep hearing about how the scr is OP, but when I use it on my alt (still haven't specc'd it on main yet, don't ask me why  ) it doesn't feel way OP until I use a scanner. Knowing every enemies position (I guess most scouts don't use complex damps) just makes the charge shot so easy, and when it overheats I switch to my sidearm.
The fact is the dps output has a drawback, sure. The overheat mechanic definitely limits me, but overall with 3 damage mods I can put down 1k damage in a around a second, and the recoil isn't unwieldy. And if I happen to overheat while fighting a just switch to my scrambler pistol and own the rest.
Another thing. The charged allows you to handle multiple enemies way easier when they are closing the distance than the ar.
In practice you charge a shot and peekaboo out of cover and take out a guy before they have time to react, where the sustained fire from the ar ends up costing you more because of the inevitable return fire.
This assumes you have cover of course.
I think the coming range buff could be dangerous. No one likes to spec something that is or becomes op. It hurts me to tell other the gallente logi needs a nerf. But I know it does.
I'm not positive the scrambler needs a nerf...however I do think the amarr assault + scr is op. The number of shots you can take after a charged shot is just...well it's AMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAZZZZAAAAAAAANNNNGGGG!
That's Masternader to you scrub.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2081
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:20:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Dengru wrote:Scrambler rifle users seem want to think there is a essential difference between them and other AR users, and that theres some trick and skill to their weapon others cannot pick up on
Just like mass driver users liked to think there was a difference between them an other players, and we all remember what happened when everyone spec into proto MDs.
People are gonna see.. Except there is undoubtedly more skill required to use the ScR effectively than there is to use the AR effectively. If you think they take less than or equal skill than an AR, you are delusional. The ScR has actual drawbacks, something the AR is really lacking. Besides overheating...what is the difference between the two?? Semi Auto rather than Full auto? Laser instead of Hybrid? Secondary Fire option? The differences are quite obvious. Do you honestly think the AR takes more skill to use effectively than the ScR?
You can't compare the Imperial to the Duvolle. You would have to compare the Imperial to the Tac AR and the Carthum to the Duvolle. And when you do that, you see that there isn't much difference as far as requiring skill.
To me, the scrambler rifle is an assault rifle deviant.....both uses the same shooting mechanics. They just have different qualities as far as bonuses to shield and penalties to armor. |
Aqua-Regia
551
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:21:00 -
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Been seeing lot of player go to the ScR as of late, maybe it time to nerf it before it get out of hand. You ScR better hope CCP release the other new AR in 1.7 and not move it up to 1.8,1.9, to 2.0.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
2081
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:24:00 -
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Aqua-Regia wrote:Been seeing lot of player go to the ScR as of late, maybe it time to nerf it before it get out of hand. You ScR better hope CCP release the other new AR in 1.7 and not move it up to 1.8,1.9, to 2.0.
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CCP Frame
C C P
C C P Alliance
1733
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:25:00 -
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