DUST Search - Took a break...bad idea

Rusty Shallows wrote:

Sorry to hear about the hideous stomping Aviles .

It's entirely possible you just had a string of very bad match-making. I will have bad experiences with the game when something is broken on the CCP side and my SMG/HMG/FG simply stop hitting targets altogether.

You have a number of options. One try a different game time, a friend used to play a bunch of dust in the mornings his local time since the people on the game were more casual players. Another would be take another break (and/or afk farm) if your critical skills aren't 5s yet. The usual suspects: Hit-Point buffer skills, weapon operation, weapon proficiency (lvl 3), handheld damage mods, buffer module skills (lvl 3), big three fitting skills (at least lvl 3), etc. The critical number on my Medic Alt was between 5 million and 6 million skill points. Third wait until PvE is introduced and moderate your exposure to us douchebag vets. Fourth is see if it is possible to hook up with veteran players since teamwork + skills + skillZ = an elevated game for everybody.

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Aviles Novashift 8	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:57:00 - [1] - Quote I decided to take a break since my mic wouldn't work on DUST. I had trouble communicating with my teams so games weren't going so well. That was a bad idea. Now a couple weeks latter, my mic is working. I jump into a couple matches and realize something horrible. Because of this break im getting slaughtered. Apparently im so behind with SP that I cant match up to anyone and even went one round with 20+ deaths and zero kills. I didn't even have the chance to aim at anyone let alone shoot back before I was dead. Then in a atempt to save my ISK from re-spawns I just stay in out boundry randomly atempting sniper shots and anti-vehicle kills. One shot sniper BANG im dead. Redliner BANG im dead. You get the point. If im having this problem, what does that say for brand new players? Needles to say, im debating if I should keep playing. If I do quit ill keep my character up in case I come back later (hoping things get better). If not I have ALLOT of thinking to do on how I can even my odds against higher level players. Anyone have any suggestions? Any ideas? Note: Don't ask for my ISK, I would give it to one of my Corp members long before anyone randomly asking me for it.
Oswald Rehnquist 504	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:05:00 - [2] - Quote Apparently you didn't keep up with the notes, hit detection has been improved to the point that starter fit ar users are now almost just as effective as proto ar users, TTK is now between .1 and 3 Since the game was balanced with bad hit detection with Ars giving massive damage to still pound with in bad hit detection, hit detection improvements without changing the Ar made it very powerful. Its adaptable, still very skewed, but if I can duel ScramP scout and stay positive, I know you can too. The first few days was full of QQing due to the multiple deaths. Below 28 dB
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1054	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:05:00 - [3] - Quote It happens the only way to overcome it is to play the game for a day or three "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1143	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:06:00 - [4] - Quote can i have your isk. i'm a very reliable person. O_O Join Cakes Pub. #1 Ringer Channel. Also the main ringer channel for MCoD for those that are interested in ringing.
Aviles Novashift 9	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:10:00 - [5] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Apparently you didn't keep up with the notes, hit detection has been improved to the point that starter fit ar users are now almost just as effective as proto ar users, TTK is now between .1 and 3 Since the game was balanced with bad hit detection with Ars giving massive damage to still pound with in bad hit detection, hit detection improvements without changing the Ar made it very powerful. Its adaptable, still very skewed, but if I can duel ScramP scout and stay positive, I know you can too. The first few days was full of QQing due to the multiple deaths. ARs huh? I don't like using them but if that's the case I might have to.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4529	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:11:00 - [6] - Quote CCP really needs to implement the rollover SP promised to us back in January, then confirmed in May. Never forget Level 4 Forum Warrior King of airborne swine.
Rusty Shallows 483	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:19:00 - [7] - Quote Sorry to hear about the hideous stomping Aviles . It's entirely possible you just had a string of very bad match-making. I will have bad experiences with the game when something is broken on the CCP side and my SMG/HMG/FG simply stop hitting targets altogether. You have a number of options. One try a different game time, a friend used to play a bunch of dust in the mornings his local time since the people on the game were more casual players. Another would be take another break (and/or afk farm) if your critical skills aren't 5s yet. The usual suspects: Hit-Point buffer skills, weapon operation, weapon proficiency (lvl 3), handheld damage mods, buffer module skills (lvl 3), big three fitting skills (at least lvl 3), etc. The critical number on my Medic Alt was between 5 million and 6 million skill points. Third wait until PvE is introduced and moderate your exposure to us douchebag vets. Fourth is see if it is possible to hook up with veteran players since teamwork + skills + skillZ = an elevated game for everybody. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Aviles Novashift 9	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:22:00 - [8] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Sorry to hear about the hideous stomping Aviles . It's entirely possible you just had a string of very bad match-making. I will have bad experiences with the game when something is broken on the CCP side and my SMG/HMG/FG simply stop hitting targets altogether. You have a number of options. One try a different game time, a friend used to play a bunch of dust in the mornings his local time since the people on the game were more casual players. Another would be take another break (and/or afk farm) if your critical skills aren't 5s yet. The usual suspects: Hit-Point buffer skills, weapon operation, weapon proficiency (lvl 3), handheld damage mods, buffer module skills (lvl 3), big three fitting skills (at least lvl 3), etc. The critical number on my Medic Alt was between 5 million and 6 million skill points. Third wait until PvE is introduced and moderate your exposure to us douchebag vets. Fourth is see if it is possible to hook up with veteran players since teamwork + skills + skillZ = an elevated game for everybody. That's refreshing seeing some more good advice. I hate all the trolling that goes around so often. Thanks ill take all that into account.
General John Ripper Rippers Taco Shack 39852	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:49:00 - [9] - Quote Make use of damage mods. Play defensively. Use your blueberries as meat shields. After a few days, you will regain your gungame. I gave all my isk to Lady Killington so spam her with messages, not me.
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 26	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:44:00 - [10] - Quote since you likely haven't kept up on updates/patches/fixes, you should start there. Once you know what/how items got changed, then adjust your play accordingly. All of this assumes a non-protostomping match. Should you encounter prototrolls, my suggestion is to switch to a quick ambush (or any other game mode, except what you are currently in) to put some time between you and the "loop of proto" and get a fairly balanced group. Once that happens, try to stay with that group by being ready to go in very quickly to the next battle. Eventually the trolls will catch up to you, but at least you can earn a bit between disappointments. As far as psychologically, just assume every match is going to end up against those using much more expensive equip/mods than you and make the game more about costing them more than you. Even if you lose badly, if your militia fit can take out 4-5 proto, then each of them lost more than you will likely have spent the entire match. You came out "ahead". Kinda sour grapes and all, but it's better than admitting to yourself that you just got ur us ass run.

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 804	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:50:00 - [11] - Quote Also, having even a break from dust for 3-5 days makes you rusty.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 696	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:59:00 - [12] - Quote Yeah, it's probably just rust, not any SP deficit - that combined with a new build having only just hit.
Aviles Novashift 9	Posted - 2013.11.11 06:11:00 - [13] - Quote Thanks for all the responses. Allot of good advice. I would rater hold up then quit. I like the game. Just mad my usual fit isn't good enough anymore. Prefer being able to play MY way then forced comply to standards that don't represent what the game was supposed to be. I see it loosing the "play your way" and turning into what I see in allot of MMORPGs. If your not set up right your not going to survive.
Kaze Eyrou Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 395	Posted - 2013.11.11 06:13:00 - [14] - Quote BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: can i have your isk. i'm a very reliable person. O_O You say that to EVERYONE in local... That or CEO...
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 161	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:19:00 - [15] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Apparently you didn't keep up with the notes, hit detection has been improved to the point that starter fit ar users are now almost just as effective as proto ar users, TTK is now between .1 and 3 Since the game was balanced with bad hit detection with Ars giving massive damage to still pound with in bad hit detection, hit detection improvements without changing the Ar made it very powerful. Its adaptable, still very skewed, but if I can duel ScramP scout and stay positive, I know you can get back to positive ratios again. The first few days was full of QQing due to the multiple deaths (it is justified, but adaptable) you are playing wrong OP, which I know makes me sound like a ****, but like oswald said the difference between high skill and low is pretty negligible right now its just that the game is now a cover based shooter, instead of a high health shooter that it used to be(well unless you were pro before.)
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10099	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:28:00 - [16] - Quote You have to break the horse back in a bit and relearn a few things. I give it a week. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Laser Rifle =// Unlocked
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1799	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:30:00 - [17] - Quote Just stick with it...you'll get acclimated and get into the groove.
SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 501	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:34:00 - [18] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: It's entirely possible you just had a string of very bad match-making. This is possible. Until the matchmaker gets some fresh stats on you, you'll likely be thrown into games with all types of player, including elite pvpers. After a few games, that should settle down. "Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)" GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
CharCharOdell 1518	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:36:00 - [19] - Quote Aviles wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Apparently you didn't keep up with the notes, hit detection has been improved to the point that starter fit ar users are now almost just as effective as proto ar users, TTK is now between .1 and 3 Since the game was balanced with bad hit detection with Ars giving massive damage to still pound with in bad hit detection, hit detection improvements without changing the Ar made it very powerful. Its adaptable, still very skewed, but if I can duel ScramP scout and stay positive, I know you can too. The first few days was full of QQing due to the multiple deaths. ARs huh? I don't like using them but if that's the case I might have to. You're short sighted. The rail rifles and assault CRs will be ripping the AR up in less than a month. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition


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