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jenza aranda BetaMax. 2061	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:32:00 - [1] - Quote https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qwKHEbxfpSOmbPrplBVpbQd4eg3o69LlSJ6w9r4oZFs/edit bare in mind this is not a method of effecting dust, but more to satisfy my curiosity about the opinions of people on those things. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2236	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:42:00 - [2] - Quote I think its a bit fruitless to try and survey peoples opinions about respecs. People want them, I'd even say a majority would want them. That same majority do not see the longterm damage it would cause, however, so their opinions aren't worth very much.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7004	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:44:00 - [3] - Quote Aside from scale, we have no idea what Conquest will be like; perhaps just a giant Skirmish (which would be really lazy and boring). I picked PVE, but I feel just as strongly about Dust getting an attack/defend mode with multiple stages (like the old Skirmish 1.0). Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2062	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:44:00 - [4] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I think its a bit fruitless to try and survey peoples opinions about respecs. People want them, I'd even say a majority would want them. That same majority do not see the longterm damage it would cause, however, so their opinions aren't worth very much. Really? because so far the majority has been against respecs. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2790	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:44:00 - [5] - Quote As for the things I want first, I chose racial variants for all suits however I want more gamemodes. Where's ctf and demolitions game mode? :( We've hade the same game modes for like a year.. Domination was a nice addition though. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2062	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:45:00 - [6] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Aside from scale, we have no idea what Conquest will be like; perhaps just a giant Skirmish (which would be really lazy and boring). I picked PVE, but I feel just as strongly about Dust getting an attack/defend mode with multiple stages (like the old Skirmish 1.0). Conquest would basically be a rehauled skirmish 1.0 with multiple objectives Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2236	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:45:00 - [7] - Quote I picked conquest, because as much as i want a new weapon Its just another model that allows me to kill things and I am already capable of killing with what is available. Conquest could be the theoretical game changer, though.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7004	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:48:00 - [8] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Aside from scale, we have no idea what Conquest will be like; perhaps just a giant Skirmish (which would be really lazy and boring). I picked PVE, but I feel just as strongly about Dust getting an attack/defend mode with multiple stages (like the old Skirmish 1.0). Conquest would basically be a rehauled skirmish 1.0 with multiple objectives You've just made me a very happy man. Will there be objectives besides null cannons, like defense relays? Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7004	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:54:00 - [9] - Quote On the subject of respecs. I'm very meticulous about choosing my skills, and so far I'm very happy with what I did. That being said, I don't see the value of forcing people to stick with a bad decision, or something they've grown tired of; this s just not fun, or good for a game (games are suppose to be fun). I specced into scrambler rifles, Amarr logi, and Amarr assault, but one day I could grow to hate all that and feel stuck with it (though unlikely). In response to the "but people will spec into things I think are OP", CCP always eventually gets to nerfing the FoTMs. I would like optional respecs every month, with an AUR respec option that has no timing limits (so CCP can make money). Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Canari Elphus Ancient Exiles 868	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:19:00 - [10] - Quote I think the Respec question could have been worded differently or allowed for an open ended 'other' response. Personally, my opinion is: 1 respec 'token' should be given to every new player that they can use up to a predetermined skill level (say 10mil) A respec should happen once all basic racial suits are released (heavies/scouts not specialty suits) Skill 'refunds' should happen when a particular branch of the skill tree is overhauled (ie vehicles) Also, I chose PvE because new players desperately need something to have fun with in this game other than being murdered by vets. Proud Sponsor of the United Lamp Post Defense Fund. "Protecting Our Skies For A Better Tomorrow" ¯¯¯¦¬¯`GÇó.__Gÿ+

Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1473	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:29:00 - [11] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: I think the Respec question could have been worded differently or allowed for an open ended 'other' response. Personally, my opinion is: 1 respec 'token' should be given to every new player that they can use up to a predetermined skill level (say 10mil) A respec should happen once all basic racial suits are released (heavies/scouts not specialty suits) Skill 'refunds' should happen when a particular branch of the skill tree is overhauled (ie vehicles) Also, I chose PvE because new players desperately need something to have fun with in this game other than being murdered by vets. This is what I was thinking as well. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 925	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:30:00 - [12] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qwKHEbxfpSOmbPrplBVpbQd4eg3o69LlSJ6w9r4oZFs/edit bare in mind this is not a method of effecting dust, but more to satisfy my curiosity about the opinions of people on those things. If lasers remain as they are then they are obsolete in 1.7 and so are the amarr assault suits bonus skills= obsolete. If no respec Delete Dust 514. Play instead: GTA V, The Last of Us, FFX HD, Kingdom hearts Remix, Dark Souls, GT6, Diablo 3, Farcry 3, Killzone, BF4, Thats my response and I think it will be the same type of response from other laser users.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4530	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:30:00 - [13] - Quote I find it disturbing that rollover SP wasn't a choice for the last question, so I went with PvE. I'd like to shoot something other than that guy over there for a change. Never forget Level 4 Forum Warrior King of airborne swine.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7486	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:34:00 - [14] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I think its a bit fruitless to try and survey peoples opinions about respecs. People want them, I'd even say a majority would want them. That same majority do not see the longterm damage it would cause, however, so their opinions aren't worth very much. Really? because so far the majority has been against respecs. I think our definitions of 'majority' might be a tad different Fan Fiction \ Broke Dropship Pilot /
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 925	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:42:00 - [15] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I think its a bit fruitless to try and survey peoples opinions about respecs. People want them, I'd even say a majority would want them. That same majority do not see the longterm damage it would cause, however, so their opinions aren't worth very much. Really? because so far the majority has been against respecs. Yeah?? lol!! We used to be at OVER 9000 Dust 514 player counts. And the "minority" started to leave Dust 514 until we got to these "majority" numbers of BELOW 5000 and most times BELOW 4000. And if lasers are obsolete in 1.7 then this player will join the "minority" by deleting Dust 514. I guess if things continue then Dust 514 will reach a "majority" of BELOW 2000 or BELOW 1000....lol!! Then if that comes to pass then you can say that the "majority" is still playing Dust 514. Now excuse me while I go look at all the new PS3 and PS4 games that are going to be out in a few days.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 828	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:48:00 - [16] - Quote NO RESPECS! This game's current skill tree takes years to complete, so just cap out for the next few years every week. Or run Omegas non-stop. If your weapon is changed drastically, then just HTFU and deal with it. Live with your choices, even if those choices won't be the same choices you make in the future. Doesn't really seem logical does it? There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4037	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:50:00 - [17] - Quote Atiim wrote: NO RESPECS! This game's current skill tree takes years to complete, so just cap out for the next few years every week. Or run Omegas non-stop. If your weapon is changed drastically, then just HTFU and deal with it. Live with your choices, even if those choices won't be the same choices you make in the future. Doesn't really seem logical does it? You don't play EVE you don't get to say things like that as if you do. Fact of the matter is, without new content and a respect to get into that content that should have been in the game from the outset of release....I'm done with this game, stale, boring, and not particularly balanced as it is. I could HTFU but the hard truth is I don't have fun playing dust anymore and I could be having much more fun playing something like Bf4 which despite not having the logistics I love in Dust atleast is a well made shooter. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 828	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:51:00 - [18] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I think its a bit fruitless to try and survey peoples opinions about respecs. People want them, I'd even say a majority would want them. That same majority do not see the longterm damage it would cause, however, so their opinions aren't worth very much. Please state the long term damage it would cause. Or should I just cap out for the next few years to be able to use everything? Or should I just never be allowed to use more than role? There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7488	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:51:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: NO RESPECS! This game's current skill tree takes years to complete, so just cap out for the next few years every week. Or run Omegas non-stop. If your weapon is changed drastically, then just HTFU and deal with it. Live with your choices, even if those choices won't be the same choices you make in the future. Doesn't really seem logical does it? You don't play EVE you don't get to say things like that as if you do. It doesn't matter if he plays EVE, he plays DUST, the only relevant factor when discussing DUST related mechanics Fan Fiction \ Broke Dropship Pilot /
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 828	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:53:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: NO RESPECS! This game's current skill tree takes years to complete, so just cap out for the next few years every week. Or run Omegas non-stop. If your weapon is changed drastically, then just HTFU and deal with it. Live with your choices, even if those choices won't be the same choices you make in the future. Doesn't really seem logical does it? You don't play EVE you don't get to say things like that as if you do. What are you talking about? There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4037	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:53:00 - [21] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: NO RESPECS! This game's current skill tree takes years to complete, so just cap out for the next few years every week. Or run Omegas non-stop. If your weapon is changed drastically, then just HTFU and deal with it. Live with your choices, even if those choices won't be the same choices you make in the future. Doesn't really seem logical does it? You don't play EVE you don't get to say things like that as if you do. It doesn't matter if he plays EVE, he plays DUST, the only relevant factor when discussing DUST related mechanics Then dust players should not be so entitled as to think the same precedents as in EVE apply to them. It would be far easier to train the use of assault rifles that the technical specifications of say a battleship, neural remapping for clone infantry is entirely possible. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 395	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:54:00 - [22] - Quote I replied 'for respecs', but what this really means is: As soon as CCP change a number in the skill tree, or an equipment related to that skill, the SP should immidiately be refunded, independent of why the skill or related equipment was changed. Also a full (optional) respec is required when all racial content drops, e.g. when racial dropsuits are released (or the skill tree to be revamped to be independent of race, just like the new vehicle skill tree looks like it will be implemented) +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 828	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:55:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: NO RESPECS! This game's current skill tree takes years to complete, so just cap out for the next few years every week. Or run Omegas non-stop. If your weapon is changed drastically, then just HTFU and deal with it. Live with your choices, even if those choices won't be the same choices you make in the future. Doesn't really seem logical does it? You don't play EVE you don't get to say things like that as if you do. Fact of the matter is, without new content and a respect to get into that content that should have been in the game from the outset of release....I'm done with this game, stale, boring, and not particularly balanced as it is. I could HTFU but the hard truth is I don't have fun playing dust anymore and I could be having much more fun playing something like Bf4 which despite not having the logistics I love in Dust atleast is a well made shooter. Facepalms I was being sarcastic There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4037	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:56:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: NO RESPECS! This game's current skill tree takes years to complete, so just cap out for the next few years every week. Or run Omegas non-stop. If your weapon is changed drastically, then just HTFU and deal with it. Live with your choices, even if those choices won't be the same choices you make in the future. Doesn't really seem logical does it? You don't play EVE you don't get to say things like that as if you do. Fact of the matter is, without new content and a respect to get into that content that should have been in the game from the outset of release....I'm done with this game, stale, boring, and not particularly balanced as it is. I could HTFU but the hard truth is I don't have fun playing dust anymore and I could be having much more fun playing something like Bf4 which despite not having the logistics I love in Dust atleast is a well made shooter. Facepalms I was being sarcastic Sarcasm does not translate well over the internet unless is very easy to pick up on in syntax.....I guess I missed that them. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4037	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:57:00 - [25] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: I replied 'for respecs', but what this really means is: As soon as CCP change a number in the skill tree, or an equipment related to that skill, the SP should immidiately be refunded, independent of why the skill or related equipment was changed. Also a full (optional) respec is required when all racial content drops, e.g. when racial dropsuits are released (or the skill tree to be revamped to be independent of race, just like the new vehicle skill tree looks like it will be implemented) This. I don't mind not having respecs in the future for expansion content...but for core content we need them. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 829	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:08:00 - [26] - Quote Personally I think all players should get an optional respec when they reach an SP Milestone, maybe about every 5m SP. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 280	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:31:00 - [27] - Quote very good servey jenz hopfully it gets through to CCP the BEST pilot in DUST 514, no.1 ranked pilot on BATTLEFIELD 3, and top 16 on WAR THUNDER.... come at me bro!
Alpha 443-6732 211	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:33:00 - [28] - Quote survey* AV =/= Completely dominate and render vehicles useless. AV = Counterpart of vehicles that combats vehicles.
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 272	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:46:00 - [29] - Quote You should add the option of a periodical aurum bought re-spec that causes you to loose a certain percentage of isk every time you want a respec I don't fight for the Amarr. I fight *with* them.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7007	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:56:00 - [30] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: You should add the option of a periodical aurum bought re-spec that causes you to loose a certain percentage of isk every time you want a respec That ISK thing is pointless, just create a corp (or alt), donate all your ISK to that corp (or alt), use the respec, and you won't lose any money since you have none. Then just take your money from your corp (or alt) again. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+



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