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Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:36:00 - [1] - Quote Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 Light Weapon Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle Sidearm Weapon Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Highs Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Lows Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Grenade Locus Grenade Equipment Nanohive CPU:342/352 PG:63/67 Any ideas on improvements? What should I train for next? Am I doing something terribly wrong? Thanks in advance everybody!
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 568	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:56:00 - [2] - Quote I find advanced suit n weapons with proto modules to be more cost effective. Primarily if you're running Gallente suits you'll want the complex armour plates and reps first and make sure your Armour Upgrades skill is maxed soon as possible. Also you can drop a rep for a plate if you skill the hives up to advanced and use the X9 (I think) ... the triage version so you can boost repair by dropping a hive.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1051	Posted - 2013.11.10 15:59:00 - [3] - Quote O_O did you seriously just put shield mods on an armor tanked suit? "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:01:00 - [4] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: O_O did you seriously just put shield mods on an armor tanked suit? I put shield extenders on my amarr logi ak0.....it is supposed to be a dual tanked suit after all "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:08:00 - [5] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: O_O did you seriously just put shield mods on an armor tanked suit? Yes. I've found the increased survivability to be pretty needed. What should I be putting in my highs otherwise?
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 569	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:09:00 - [6] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: O_O did you seriously just put shield mods on an armor tanked suit? I put shield extenders on my amarr logi ak0.....it is supposed to be a dual tanked suit after all The way things are going everything should be dual tanked
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 569	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:11:00 - [7] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: O_O did you seriously just put shield mods on an armor tanked suit? Yes. I've found the increased survivability to be pretty needed. What should I be putting in my highs otherwise? Damage mods are about the only worth while replacement for shield extenders ... depends if you're fitting a slayer or logi/survivability fitting.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 258	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:12:00 - [8] - Quote Are you running a hybrid tanker? Basic or enhanced shields extenders are pretty worthless (unless you just don't have the sp). Best to Pro those out as fast as possible. You also want complex reppers. Ideally you can wait to Pro out armor plates. Advanced is pretty good and is worth the PG cost (less so with complex). Personally I would give up my nicer weapons so I could run better mods. The difference between the ADV weapons and PRO is slim. Really comparing the Gek to the Duvolle is like a TTK difference of maybe .1 (I know you use Tac but the example stands.)
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 569	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:14:00 - [9] - Quote Also rookie training grounds is the right forum section for this, so don't be suprised when it gets moved.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles 296	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:15:00 - [10] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 Light Weapon Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle Sidearm Weapon Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Highs Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Lows Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Grenade Locus Grenade Equipment Nanohive CPU:342/352 PG:63/67 Any ideas on improvements? What should I train for next? Am I doing something terribly wrong? Thanks in advance everybody! Plates + 2-3 dmg mods... Proto suit's aren't to important except to fit better modules on... regardless of the suit the TTk isn't changed by much but .1 seconds of life.

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1778	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:16:00 - [11] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Are you running a hybrid tanker? Basic or enhanced shields extenders are pretty worthless (unless you just don't have the sp). Best to Pro those out as fast as possible. You also want complex reppers. Ideally you can wait to Pro out armor plates. Advanced is pretty good and is worth the PG cost (less so with complex). Personally I would give up my nicer weapons so I could run better mods. The difference between the ADV weapons and PRO is slim. Really comparing the Gek to the Duvolle is like a TTK difference of maybe .1 (I know you use Tac but the example stands.) I generally run cheaper versions of weapons too but the 1.7 stats are showing improved ranges the more expensive the rifle. I may start making room for prototype weapons. AKA: Rees Noturana https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 569	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:18:00 - [12] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Are you running a hybrid tanker? Basic or enhanced shields extenders are pretty worthless (unless you just don't have the sp). Best to Pro those out as fast as possible. You also want complex reppers. Ideally you can wait to Pro out armor plates. Advanced is pretty good and is worth the PG cost (less so with complex). Personally I would give up my nicer weapons so I could run better mods. The difference between the ADV weapons and PRO is slim. Really comparing the Gek to the Duvolle is like a TTK difference of maybe .1 (I know you use Tac but the example stands.) If he was using a Caldari suit I'd agree completely ... but he's not ! He'd get most benefit out of plates and nanohives ... then repairers, then shield extenders ... since he has more low slots than high ... and complex plates doesnt just mean standard ones, ferroscale are very good for the reduced speed penalty and reactive could replace his reppers.
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:29:00 - [13] - Quote So I should be going for advanced nanohives? I guess I'm a little confused with the conflicting opinions. Post recommended fits?
Vegetation Monster The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 56	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:35:00 - [14] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 Light Weapon Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle Sidearm Weapon Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Highs Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Lows Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Grenade Locus Grenade Equipment Nanohive CPU:342/352 PG:63/67 Any ideas on improvements? What should I train for next? Am I doing something terribly wrong? Thanks in advance everybody! typical gallante noob.. B Double O T Y
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1551	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:40:00 - [15] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: O_O did you seriously just put shield mods on an armor tanked suit? I put shield extenders on my amarr logi ak0.....it is supposed to be a dual tanked suit after all The way things are going everything should be dual tanked This is true, mind you I made the suit that way before 1.2 so it was designed to take heavy fire while I rep Rez and resupply.....but now it's just ridiculous "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 16:42:00 - [16] - Quote Vegetation Monster wrote: typical gallante noob.. Super awesome community...
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 18:22:00 - [17] - Quote So these are the changes I made. Anything else I should look into? Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 Light Weapon GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle Sidearm Weapon Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Highs Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Lows Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Grenade Locus Grenade Equipment Nanohive CPU:341/352 PG:62/67
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:28:00 - [18] - Quote Just tried the above fit in faction warfare but with a GEK. Did a lot better than I normally do. Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 19:39:00 - [19] - Quote Also made a plated out version with an armor repping hive. Does that look like it should? Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 Light Weapon GEK-38 Assault Rifle Sidearm Weapon Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Highs Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Lows Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Grenade Locus Grenade Equipment Compact Nanohive CPU:301/352 PG:62/67
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 396	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:01:00 - [20] - Quote GEK SMG/Scrambler Pistol Allotek Nanohive (R) M1 grenade Highs: Complex Damage mods Lows: Random combination of Enhanced/Basic plates Congrats, you are now the FOTM of this game. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."

Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1178	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:07:00 - [21] - Quote use a complex repair module, and have another basic or enhanced plate instead of having two enhanced reppers. Or try to fit a complex plus an enhanced repper. That'll give you 10 hp/s and you'll still have pretty good armor. I just don't like how you have all that extra fitting space, and a bunch of enhanced mods. Marston VC, STB director
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 11	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:16:00 - [22] - Quote Marston VC wrote: use a complex repair module, and have another basic or enhanced plate instead of having two enhanced reppers. Or try to fit a complex plus an enhanced repper. That'll give you 10 hp/s and you'll still have pretty good armor. I just don't like how you have all that extra fitting space, and a bunch of enhanced mods. So make my way towards a complex armor repper SP wise?
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1178	Posted - 2013.11.10 20:44:00 - [23] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: Marston VC wrote: use a complex repair module, and have another basic or enhanced plate instead of having two enhanced reppers. Or try to fit a complex plus an enhanced repper. That'll give you 10 hp/s and you'll still have pretty good armor. I just don't like how you have all that extra fitting space, and a bunch of enhanced mods. So make my way towards a complex armor repper SP wise? That's what I would do. It will help increase your survivability, and it'll also help with other suits you may unlock in the future. Marston VC, STB director
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 570	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:14:00 - [24] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Topher Mellen wrote: Marston VC wrote: use a complex repair module, and have another basic or enhanced plate instead of having two enhanced reppers. Or try to fit a complex plus an enhanced repper. That'll give you 10 hp/s and you'll still have pretty good armor. I just don't like how you have all that extra fitting space, and a bunch of enhanced mods. So make my way towards a complex armor repper SP wise? That's what I would do. It will help increase your survivability, and it'll also help with other suits you may unlock in the future. Personnally I'd go for the plate skill first ... You've already dropped the repairers for the compact hive (which I was going to suggest), however I would keep 1 repairer since you don't get infinite hives ... OR better still I'd switch 2 of the plates for reactive ones, giving you a bit of repair, you'd have to check the numbers which is better 2 reactive or 1 reactive and 1 repairer. Also you've stacked up 4 standard plates there ... that's a pretty hefty hit to your movement speed ... yes it's a good boost to your hp, but you might want to consider the ferroscale plates too, since they have very little speed penalty for a good hp boost. Take a look at what 1 std, 2 ferroscale and a repairer gives you ... or maybe 2 std and 2 reactive ... or 2 std, 1 reactive, 1 repairer. We can't give you the best fit cos it depends so much on what skills you've got in so many different skills that affect cpu and pg both in availability and usage of for everything you fit. Make several duplicates of your fitting and set one with each combination and see which gives you a good balance of hp, movement speed and maintains reasonable repair (which can be boosted with the hives when you're severely depleted). So that's why I'd aim for the plates skill first ... since you can get much more mileage out of plates than you can get from repairers and then I'd skip the repairers again for the hives since proto triage hives can give you serious amounts of repair. But everyone plays differently, so take what you can and make your choice ... but you can't go wrong with duplicating fits to see how the numbers compare, then deleting the ones you don't like.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2070	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:16:00 - [25] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 Light Weapon Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle Sidearm Weapon Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Highs Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Lows Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Grenade Locus Grenade Equipment Nanohive CPU:342/352 PG:63/67 Any ideas on improvements? What should I train for next? Am I doing something terribly wrong? Thanks in advance everybody! Unless you don't yet have proto shields, the only real mistake you've made is sticking multiple lower level shields on, instead of one proto, a whatever else you can. It's cheaper on both isk and fitting space. I'd drop the pistol a few meta levels in favour of better shields. Then again I'd also drop the shields for damage mods. If you're using a Tac and you need to pull out your sidearm, you've already done something wrong. The Tac very rarely runs out of ammo, swap the nanohive for the standard flux scanner and you'll have a much easier time engaging opponents on your own terms. Finally: if you want to improve your armour next, it is far better to get proto reps than proto plates. From advanced to proto, reps see a 66% improvement, whereas plates only improve by about 25%. You might even be able to run one proto rep and slap an extra plate on. No.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 570	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:28:00 - [26] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Finally: if you want to improve your armour next, it is far better to get proto reps than proto plates. From advanced to proto, reps see a 66% improvement, whereas plates only improve by about 25%. You might even be able to run one proto rep and slap an extra plate on. Again ... you're missing reading the very first word in the OP ... Gallente are armour tankers ... forget the shields they're only there as an added extra few hp, as you said they can be switched for damage mods if he wants a less tanky more dps variant of the fitting. but the performance difference between advanced and proto reps and plates is irrelevant ... 66% improvement to reps just means you'll spend less time in cover repairing ... 25% extra hp on plates could mean the difference between dying and winning a gunfight so you can actually make it to cover to repair ! Edit : not to mention the variety in plates that offers inbuilt repairs and reduced speed penalties ... why would anyone skill repairers before plates !!?? Edit 2 : not to mention the added 5% (I think) to the effectiveness of armour plates from the skill you train to use them !
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 12	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:32:00 - [27] - Quote Okay so here's the new fit I've got going. Just to be clear I have not unlocked prototype modules for my tank. Just advanced modules. Where should I be going from here? Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 Light Weapon GLU-5 Tactical Assault Rifle Sidearm Weapon Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Highs Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Lows Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Grenade Locus Grenade Equipment Compact Nanohive CPU:316/352 PG:61/67
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 570	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:39:00 - [28] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: Okay so here's the new fit I've got going. Just to be clear I have not unlocked prototype modules for my tank. Just advanced modules. Where should I be going from here? Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 --snip-- Looks good ... if you're happy with the slow movement ... you can only test that in game. If you want it a bit quicker switch a plate for a ferroscale and see how the speed trades off with the slight drop in hp. As I said from the beginning though I'd be sticking to the advanced suit till you've skilled at least the proto plates to give it survivability. Otherwise you're just sub-par tanking an expensive suit, yeah the extra slots are great, but they're ment for proto modules, that's why you've got so much cpu n pg left over.
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 12	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:43:00 - [29] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Looks good ... if you're happy with the slow movement ... you can only test that in game. If you want it a bit quicker switch a plate for a ferroscale and see how the speed trades off with the slight drop in hp. As I said from the beginning though I'd be sticking to the advanced suit till you've skilled at least the proto plates to give it survivability. Otherwise you're just sub-par tanking an expensive suit, yeah the extra slots are great, but they're ment for proto modules, that's why you've got so much cpu n pg left over. Thanks for the advice, but I think I'm going to stick to the proto suit. I don't mind grinding for ISK.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 570	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:43:00 - [30] - Quote Maybe drop the sidearm to advanced to lessen the cost of dying ... at least until you can proto the plates, then you could proto the weapons since you should be dying less.

Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 12	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:44:00 - [31] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Maybe drop the sidearm to advanced to lessen the cost of dying ... at least until you can proto the plates, then you could proto the weapons since you should be dying less. ...but...but...but, my carthum...
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 570	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:50:00 - [32] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: Thanks for the advice, but I think I'm going to stick to the proto suit. I don't mind grinding for ISK. Fair enough ... it's up to you then if you want to keep the proto rifle ... you could probably do better with that than the proto sidearm and you look like you have cpu/pg to fit it, certainly if you dropped sidearm to adv. It takes time to find a good fitting you like ... only real way to get there is try it and adjust it and try it again ... but I recommend making duplicates to adjust, since I often make changes, realise it's not as good, then forget how I had it before lol.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 125	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:52:00 - [33] - Quote Other than switching to a specialization suit, probably logi for free reps not much other than enhanced extender is worthless, badic or complex for that Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Dust should add open world , kinda like arma!
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 125	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:55:00 - [34] - Quote And replace 1 repper with a reactive, it actually negates speed penalty partial Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Dust should add open world , kinda like arma!
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 495	Posted - 2013.11.10 21:57:00 - [35] - Quote your problem is all those advanced modules on a proto suit basic shield extender Vs enhanced extender your only getting an extra 10 hp on each if your gonna use extenders get complex this will open your highs for damage mods also same with your rep mods 2hp Vs 3hp once again you need to get complex as soon as possible your main problem is your running a proto suit with all advanced gear/mods and I know your losing isk doing this try running an advanced suit with those adv mods or even a standard suit with advanced gear/mods until you get enough SP to actually run a proto properly and profit SOONGäó
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 571	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:04:00 - [36] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: basic shield extender Vs enhanced extender your only getting an extra 10 hp on each Is it REALLY only 10 hp on the basic plate !!? ... to be honest I either run complex or BPO ... I just figured the enhanced plates were worth while over the basic ... hmm Anyway it's what I've been saying ... get the plates skilled up ASAP ... n if you're not concerned about grinding the isk then those extra 30 hp from triple enhanced plates could be an extra bullet before death.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2366	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:06:00 - [37] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: O_O did you seriously just put shield mods on an armor tanked suit? What else is he going to put there? High Powered Mods are Bull... What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 572	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:10:00 - [38] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? Yeah those points could have been put to at least level 3 or maybe 4 logi giving him a free advanced or almost proto repairer. But haven;t they said recently that bonuses are going to be applied to the basic frames some time soon ... so it's not all bad !
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 14	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:12:00 - [39] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? I don't quite have the SP for a proto role suit.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2366	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:16:00 - [40] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? I don't quite have the SP for a proto role suit. WHAT? bro , you get to level 3 BASIC frame, and then you unlock Assault or Logi. You dont need to go all the way to proto basic. As it is , you would already be at level 4 Gal ASsault Or Logi.with only 800kish or less to go proto. (I should know , i thought this is how it worked thats why i have a Minmatar Proto Light Frame LOL instead of a scout,LAME, ty CCP for that) The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....

Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 573	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:16:00 - [41] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? I don't quite have the SP for a proto role suit. No but you don't need level 5 basic frame to start skilling the specialised suits ... you could have got to level 3 and then spent those sp you put into 4 and 5 getting the logi skill to 3 or 4 which gives you 1hp armour repair per second per level of the skill to any Gallente Logistics suit ... even the basic 1
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 573	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:19:00 - [42] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: (I should know , i thought this is how it worked thats why i have a Minmatar Proto Light Frame LOL instead of a scout,LAME, ty CCP for that) Lol, yeah I don't know why they changed it ... it would have made logistics more of an sp sink if they'd kept the level 5 requirement, but I think it would have made more sense ... too late now to change it back though.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2366	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:20:00 - [43] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Topher Mellen wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? I don't quite have the SP for a proto role suit. No but you don't need level 5 basic frame to start skilling the specialised suits ... you could have got to level 3 and then spent those sp you put into 4 and 5 getting the logi skill to 3 or 4 which gives you 1hp armour repair per second per level of the skill to any Gallente Logistics suit ... even the basic 1 EXactly this,but many people dont understand this very well. Now , as i explained earlier, not many people have the reading comprehension nor are native enlgish speakers (like me) and get confused sometimes. I cannot even begin to express the pain of having not one but 2 PROTO basic frames.... (Amarr med / MIN light) yup... nice.... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 14	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:24:00 - [44] - Quote So let me get this right. Gallente Medium Dropsuit V gets me nothing?
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 437	Posted - 2013.11.10 22:25:00 - [45] - Quote If you have the sp into Shields extenders to do it and you insist on dual ranking (its ok, I do it too) for the same fitting cost of type 3 advanced level Self extenders you can do complex, ex tended, basic for about the same CPU and PG cost but get more HP.
Topher Mellen Scott-Mellen Corporation 14	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:33:00 - [46] - Quote I think my SP is going to go into Plates V. Is this a good plan?
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 576	Posted - 2013.11.11 13:47:00 - [47] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: So let me get this right. Gallente Medium Dropsuit V gets me nothing? It gets you a prototype basic medium frame suit (the one you're using) ... but had you only skilled to level 3, then spent the rest of those points into either the logistics or the assault specialised suits, you'd be just short of getting the prototype version of either of those instead. The difference is those specialised suit skills give a bonus to that type of suit, whether it's standard, advanced or proto ... now for a Gallente the assault bonus isn't much use since one of them is a bonus to shields ... however the logi bonus is 1hp/s of armour repair per skill level, so you could skill to level 5 and even when you're running a standard gallente logistics suit you'd still have 5 hp/s repair rate without even fitting a single module (that's equivalent to a complex armour repairer). However ... this WILL be changed at some point in the future ... CCP have said they want logistics bonuses to be more role oriented, ie bonuses to effectiveness of repair tools, or to the number of nanites in a nanohive etc. ... however they're having trouble implementing them into the code at the moment so it's been pushed back for more important changes like balancing vehicles and sorting out scouts n heavies n more gamemodes n maps etc.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 576	Posted - 2013.11.11 13:51:00 - [48] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: I think my SP is going to go into Plates V. Is this a good plan? Absolutely ... then I'd go for advanced hives since the advanced triage one is much better than the compact, but more resource hungry, though it's worth it in my opinion. Otherwise you could then go for the proto repairers, so long as you've got the Armour Upgrades maxed aswell ... that's really important since it gives you 5% per level to your base armour amount of any suit.
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 521	Posted - 2013.11.11 14:00:00 - [49] - Quote Topher Mellen wrote: Gallente Medium Frame gk.0 Light Weapon Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle Sidearm Weapon Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol Highs Enhanced Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Lows Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Repairer Enhanced Armor Plates Enhanced Armor Plates Grenade Locus Grenade Equipment Nanohive CPU:342/352 PG:63/67 Any ideas on improvements? What should I train for next? Am I doing something terribly wrong? Thanks in advance everybody! Gek 38 High Damage Mod Damage Mod Shield extender Low basic armor plate X 2 Enhanced armor rep X2


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