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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:44:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Maybe drop the sidearm to advanced to lessen the cost of dying ... at least until you can proto the plates, then you could proto the weapons since you should be dying less.
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
570
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:50:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:Thanks for the advice, but I think I'm going to stick to the proto suit. I don't mind grinding for ISK.
Fair enough ... it's up to you then if you want to keep the proto rifle ... you could probably do better with that than the proto sidearm and you look like you have cpu/pg to fit it, certainly if you dropped sidearm to adv.
It takes time to find a good fitting you like ... only real way to get there is try it and adjust it and try it again ... but I recommend making duplicates to adjust, since I often make changes, realise it's not as good, then forget how I had it before lol. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
125
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:52:00 -
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Other than switching to a specialization suit, probably logi for free reps not much other than enhanced extender is worthless, badic or complex for that
Christ is lord
Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now.
Dust should add open world , kinda like arma!
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
125
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:55:00 -
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And replace 1 repper with a reactive, it actually negates speed penalty partial
Christ is lord
Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now.
Dust should add open world , kinda like arma!
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:57:00 -
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your problem is all those advanced modules on a proto suit
basic shield extender Vs enhanced extender your only getting an extra 10 hp on each
if your gonna use extenders get complex this will open your highs for damage mods
also same with your rep mods 2hp Vs 3hp
once again you need to get complex as soon as possible
your main problem is your running a proto suit with all advanced gear/mods
and I know your losing isk doing this
try running an advanced suit with those adv mods or even a standard suit with advanced gear/mods
until you get enough SP to actually run a proto properly and profit
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
571
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:04:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:basic shield extender Vs enhanced extender your only getting an extra 10 hp on each
Is it REALLY only 10 hp on the basic plate !!? ... to be honest I either run complex or BPO ... I just figured the enhanced plates were worth while over the basic ... hmm
Anyway it's what I've been saying ... get the plates skilled up ASAP ... n if you're not concerned about grinding the isk then those extra 30 hp from triple enhanced plates could be an extra bullet before death. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2366
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:06:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:O_O did you seriously just put shield mods on an armor tanked suit?
What else is he going to put there?
High Powered Mods are Bull...
What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI?
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
572
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:10:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI?
Yeah those points could have been put to at least level 3 or maybe 4 logi giving him a free advanced or almost proto repairer.
But haven;t they said recently that bonuses are going to be applied to the basic frames some time soon ... so it's not all bad ! |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI?
I don't quite have the SP for a proto role suit. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2366
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:16:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? I don't quite have the SP for a proto role suit.
WHAT? bro , you get to level 3 BASIC frame, and then you unlock Assault or Logi. You dont need to go all the way to proto basic.
As it is , you would already be at level 4 Gal ASsault Or Logi.with only 800kish or less to go proto.
(I should know , i thought this is how it worked thats why i have a Minmatar Proto Light Frame LOL instead of a scout,LAME, ty CCP for that)
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
573
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:16:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? I don't quite have the SP for a proto role suit.
No but you don't need level 5 basic frame to start skilling the specialised suits ... you could have got to level 3 and then spent those sp you put into 4 and 5 getting the logi skill to 3 or 4 which gives you 1hp armour repair per second per level of the skill to any Gallente Logistics suit ... even the basic 1 |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
573
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:19:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:(I should know , i thought this is how it worked thats why i have a Minmatar Proto Light Frame LOL instead of a scout,LAME, ty CCP for that)
Lol, yeah I don't know why they changed it ... it would have made logistics more of an sp sink if they'd kept the level 5 requirement, but I think it would have made more sense ... too late now to change it back though. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2366
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:20:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Topher Mellen wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:What i am surprised is that he has a MEDIUM FRAME Gk.0 ,intead of an assault or who knows , a LOGI? I don't quite have the SP for a proto role suit. No but you don't need level 5 basic frame to start skilling the specialised suits ... you could have got to level 3 and then spent those sp you put into 4 and 5 getting the logi skill to 3 or 4 which gives you 1hp armour repair per second per level of the skill to any Gallente Logistics suit ... even the basic 1
EXactly this,but many people dont understand this very well.
Now , as i explained earlier, not many people have the reading comprehension nor are native enlgish speakers (like me) and get confused sometimes. I cannot even begin to express the pain of having not one but 2 PROTO basic frames....
(Amarr med / MIN light)
yup... nice....
The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
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Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:24:00 -
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So let me get this right. Gallente Medium Dropsuit V gets me nothing? |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
437
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Posted - 2013.11.10 22:25:00 -
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If you have the sp into Shields extenders to do it and you insist on dual ranking (its ok, I do it too) for the same fitting cost of type 3 advanced level Self extenders you can do complex, ex tended, basic for about the same CPU and PG cost but get more HP. |
Topher Mellen
Scott-Mellen Corporation
14
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:33:00 -
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I think my SP is going to go into Plates V. Is this a good plan? |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
576
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:47:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:So let me get this right. Gallente Medium Dropsuit V gets me nothing?
It gets you a prototype basic medium frame suit (the one you're using) ... but had you only skilled to level 3, then spent the rest of those points into either the logistics or the assault specialised suits, you'd be just short of getting the prototype version of either of those instead.
The difference is those specialised suit skills give a bonus to that type of suit, whether it's standard, advanced or proto ... now for a Gallente the assault bonus isn't much use since one of them is a bonus to shields ... however the logi bonus is 1hp/s of armour repair per skill level, so you could skill to level 5 and even when you're running a standard gallente logistics suit you'd still have 5 hp/s repair rate without even fitting a single module (that's equivalent to a complex armour repairer).
However ... this WILL be changed at some point in the future ... CCP have said they want logistics bonuses to be more role oriented, ie bonuses to effectiveness of repair tools, or to the number of nanites in a nanohive etc. ... however they're having trouble implementing them into the code at the moment so it's been pushed back for more important changes like balancing vehicles and sorting out scouts n heavies n more gamemodes n maps etc. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
576
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Posted - 2013.11.11 13:51:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:I think my SP is going to go into Plates V. Is this a good plan?
Absolutely ... then I'd go for advanced hives since the advanced triage one is much better than the compact, but more resource hungry, though it's worth it in my opinion.
Otherwise you could then go for the proto repairers, so long as you've got the Armour Upgrades maxed aswell ... that's really important since it gives you 5% per level to your base armour amount of any suit. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
EoN.
521
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Posted - 2013.11.11 14:00:00 -
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Topher Mellen wrote:Gallente Medium Frame gk.0Light Weapon
- Duvolle Tactical Assault Rifle
Sidearm Weapon
- Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol
Highs
- Enhanced Shield Extender
- Basic Shield Extender
- Basic Shield Extender
Lows
- Enhanced Armor Repairer
- Enhanced Armor Repairer
- Enhanced Armor Plates
- Enhanced Armor Plates
GrenadeEquipmentCPU: 342/352PG: 63/67Any ideas on improvements? What should I train for next? Am I doing something terribly wrong? Thanks in advance everybody!
Gek 38
High
Damage Mod
Damage Mod
Shield extender
Low
basic armor plate X 2
Enhanced armor rep X2 |
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