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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:02:00 -
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Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
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Zero Notion
Wraith Company
269
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:03:00 -
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Bullet trails are the best option, as well as the indicator lighting up when they hit you. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
591
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:03:00 -
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How about paying attention to the direction of the shot and learning common sniper spots? |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
967
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:04:00 -
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They are hiding in the redline. |
Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1769
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:04:00 -
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well the distance shown on the kill page gives a fairly good indicator. It'd be nice to have a bit of a distance legend for reference on the overview map, but if they are 300m+ away, they are more than likely on the edge of the map somewhere. |
TcuBe3
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
217
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:04:00 -
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Or.... you could take cover and get a scanner. |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1868
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:06:00 -
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Killcams are absolute Evil and should be eternally banned from any shooter game that wants to have a semblance of strategic gameplay.
I hate snipers. I learned how to find them. I suggest you do the same.
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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VAHZZ
The dyst0pian Corporation
70
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:06:00 -
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or you could stand out in the open and look...i always find that the best way to deal with us snip-...i mean those dirty rotten snipers.
> Master of the Sniper
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
2034
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:06:00 -
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There are better ways both in game or could be added to counter a sniper that doesn't completely **** the guy over.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
Fix my scout already
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Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2739
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:08:00 -
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I agree, I want you to see exactly what I did to you when I quickscope your face
A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:08:00 -
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Yes I know they have the distance and yes if you catch the bullet trail then you have a direction. But if there were a replay or kill cam the shooter would be forced to move locations. I know that once they shoot if allies are close they can see. But that's an if.
And yes i take cover. Hard to when you spawn and move towards cover and get snipped |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1872
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:08:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I agree, I want you to see exactly what I did to you when I quickscope your face
LOL
-Caldari Achura - One with the Universe
-Tac AR Specialist
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1184
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:09:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
The Thale snipers have been getting better, I can devote a large portion of the match tying to find them and more times then not I simply won't.
The thale snipers are more frustrating then anything because the majority of the time they simply won't render. and even if they will I can never be sure they are rendering so I have to constantly get closer to areas and see if that changes their rendering.
I end up fighting the game mechanics more then the opposing snipers.
even things like smoke trails from snipers won't render unless they are currently rendering on your screen.
I'm all for pushing snipers out of the red line, seriously red line sniping pisses me off, I am a sniper and I would be fully behind any change to push snipers out of there.
my suggestion would be to add a more obvious smoke trail to sniper rifles first, and obviously do something about the rendering.....if a target is 1000m in front of me, as a sniper I need to see him, even if I can't hit him. I can get in range, but if he's practically cloaked I can't do **** about him. |
VAHZZ
The dyst0pian Corporation
70
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:10:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:I agree, I want you to see exactly what I did to you when I quickscope your face
I love this...i love this so much LOL
> Master of the Sniper
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
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Kharga Lum
Xeno Labs Security
111
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:10:00 -
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Kill cams are a terrible idea. It defeats the purpose of being clever and sneaky. Also, how could you rationalize getting this information in the first place? |
Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:10:00 -
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Just get a scanner. Lol lol it up pay out the wazzu lol. I am guessing snipers prey on the newbs a bit much lol |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
569
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:11:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
Nope. Why do I say Nope? Because it ruins the tactical side of the game. You're supposed to hunt them down and kill them or simply try to dodge their fire as you handle other business. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
2659
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:12:00 -
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CoD IN SPACE!
The newer the berry the dumber the juice.
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:13:00 -
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Kharga Lum wrote:Kill cams are a terrible idea. It defeats the purpose of being clever and sneaky. Also, how could you rationalize getting this information in the first place?
How is sitting on the red line in a corner all match sneaky. Cheap yes. Sneaky no. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1536
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:14:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
From the Fox Guide: Frontline, A Medium Frame Infantry Users Manual:
Quote:Not being Sniper bait
New players die to Snipers all the time, while veterans only die to Snipers who are either really good or just plain lucky. The difference has nothing to do with gear or skill points, although they may help. The difference is that veteran players know how not to be Sniper bait.
Not being Sniper bait involves never standing still, moving unpredictably, and an awareness of both where Snipers are likely to be, and where to find cover from them.
Never stand still! Always keep moving. If you are guarding an objective or covering someone who is hacking, you should be pacing like a child who has had too much sugar. If you are ducked behind cover letting your shields regenerate, you should be shimmying back and forth as much as your cover will allow. Even when you are hacking you can move a little, although if you move too far you will cancel your hack, so only half a step and back when hacking.
DonGÇÖt Move Predictably! For a Sniper, hitting a merc who is running in a straight line toward or away from them is almost as easy as hitting a merc who is standing still. Hitting a merc who is running perpendicular to them is a little harder, but if you are running straight, and at a constant speed, the Sniper will simple place their crosshairs on a spot 5m ahead of your head. Then it is simply a matter of pulling the trigger at the moment your head passes the centre of their sights.
So donGÇÖt let a sniper know where your head is going to be ahead of time. Zig and zag at unpredictable intervals. If you are sprinting, stop sprinting for half a second, every once in a while to throw the sniperGÇÖs timing off.
Get to know where the Snipers are likely to be, and try to keep something between you and them. Try to use girders, walls, or rock outcrops to break line of site between you and prime sniper locations. If there are Snipers or gunners on the roof, or on overhead pipes, figure out where they have a field of fire and where they donGÇÖt.
and:
Quote:Locating and calling Sniper Positions
Knowing where enemy snipers are is important for your entire squad. If you have counter snipers, they will need to locate the enemy snipers to take them out, and the rest of your squad will want to try to keep cover between them and the snipers as much as possible.
If you see the contrail of a sniper bullet it will point you back to the sniperGÇÖs location, but you probably wonGÇÖt see it if you are the target. If you are hit by a sniper, or you hear a sniper bullet strike close to you, pay attention to your cover and which directions have an open field of fire on your position. If you are standing against a wall you can narrow the sniperGÇÖs location to a 180 degrees radius. If you are standing in a corner, you can narrow it down to a 45 degrees. If there are other structures or obstructions nearby you can narrow it down further. Then from the possible directions which are left you can try to identify if there are any popular sniper nests that have a line of fire on your position.
Call out where you think the sniper may be.
If you get killed by a Sniper, look at the kill report. Call out the name of the sniper, and the distance of the shot, as well as where you were when you died. Your position and the sniperGÇÖs distance from you will indicate whether the sniper is at the edge of the map, or somewhere much closer. The name is important for your squadGÇÖs counter sniper to know if they got the right guy. Often when looking for an experienced Sniper you will first find an inexperienced sniper who is less skilled at disguising their position.
If you see a sniper, call it out. Describe their location as clearly as possible. Knowing exactly where the sniper is, is always better than knowing approximately where the sniper is. Just remember, there may be more Snipers out there, so donGÇÖt let your guard down. |
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1192
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:14:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:CoD IN SPACE!
Its already happened mate and its not a euphemism for Dust.
CoD4/ghosts or whatever is CoD in space. |
Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
2
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:15:00 -
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I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol |
Vorshan Tieg
Xeno Labs Security
13
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:17:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Kharga Lum wrote:Kill cams are a terrible idea. It defeats the purpose of being clever and sneaky. Also, how could you rationalize getting this information in the first place? How is sitting on the red line in a corner all match sneaky. Cheap yes. Sneaky no.
The red line is a terrible place, in most cases, for snipers to see the field. If their team is pinned at the red line, it'll happen. At least they're not hiding in the MCC. |
Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2744
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:18:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol
The forums are within our range to
A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9990
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:20:00 -
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
3
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:47:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol The forums are within our range to
Of course they are within ur range everything for a sniper is in range. That's my point. It's an unfair advantage. Just like saying AR's are over powered. Snipers have the unfair advantage of being hidden and away from the action. It doesn't make the game more strategic at all. It just gives player more of a reason to be a sniper. If u die less you spend less.
This game favors vets way to much to attract new players. Newbs are like lambs to the slaughter with no equal playing field. In all other shooters you are fairly equal. Might have different guns that have different options. But no online fps has such a difference between new to vet then this. The more you play the easier the game becomes. So if you play alot you have 1000hp with a better gun and gadgets. If you new you have 200hp with a price of **** milita gun and you die 100 over. I know you don't wanna be like bf or Cod. But at least make it fair. Or is that the point? Make it impossible for those who try the game and don't buy anything and favor the chumps who dump 100 bucks for kits? So in the end this game has **** all to do with skill and all about how much money you are willing to spend. Okay gotcha
Guess it's time to switch to boring sniper. |
Zimander
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
5
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:05:00 -
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I'm not a sniper i don't like snipers for me there a low skilled ppl who can go 1 vs 1 (NO OFFENSE) but the chose the roll to support and sometime I'm grateful for having some of them on my TEAM so I'm saying nope to the cam |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1377
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:08:00 -
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Common sniper nests, paying attention to where that massive red flare came from on your screen that tells you the sniper's position, and noticing the "distance" on the killscreen.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Joel II X
AHPA
98
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:09:00 -
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Counter snipe from a location that's well hidden.
This is your best option:
Zero Notion wrote:Bullet trails are the best option, as well as the indicator lighting up when they hit you.
They work wonders. Screw your kill cam. Go back to CoD. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
709
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:14:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
As a sniper if I get hit by a counter sniper I go to a cheap fit sniper and try and expose myself little by little from about where I was already until they hit me. I.e. Limit yours/there line of sight until they do shoot you.
Then go back in a good sniper fit and you know where to look as you cautiously peek out until you see them.
If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen!
-Steven Wright
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
532
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:39:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:Bullet trails are the best option, as well as the indicator lighting up when they hit you.
These are both good.
Bullet trails are the best if you can see them, but this isn't always the case.
Go with the flash on your indicator. It shows the rough direction. It's what I use for counter sniping.
If the shot kills you, you will also know the range.
Munch
What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
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CharCharOdell
1486
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:44:00 -
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Stop standing still. The only snipers who kill me are people like gem cutter and grease.
Just move and stop being sniper bait.
Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ
Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó
Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1241
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:45:00 -
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A kill cam? This is not COD XD
"Please don't"
GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
3
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Posted - 2013.11.08 19:55:00 -
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Maybe if the graphics weren't suck crap you could see snipers in the distance. The refresh rate and block like ps2 graphics hinder any of your valid points in this thread.
I know its not Cod and I am happy for that. It doesn't mean you can't take some tips from the best selling fps of all time. Or stay marginal at best and try to keep a hold of ur niche market. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
754
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:17:00 -
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Flame on!
If I find a good sniping spot, I shouldn't be penalized for getting a kill.
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
754
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:19:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Stop standing still. The only snipers who kill me are people like gem cutter and grease.
Just move and stop being sniper bait.
Actually, I find moving targets easier to hit then stationary ones sometimes (unless your a scout)
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
44
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:20:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
if you use a heavy suit when counter sniping, you get em just from dmg intel...
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
44
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:20:00 -
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Atiim wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Stop standing still. The only snipers who kill me are people like gem cutter and grease.
Just move and stop being sniper bait. Actually, I find moving targets easier to hit then stationary ones sometimes (unless your a scout)
yea, stationary targets move right at the last second which throws your aim off...
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8213
Grade No.2
576
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:23:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
The killcam won't work. In CoD, scout Snipers know to just keep there scope up for a couple seconds after a kill, so the killcam doesn't display the landscape and give away their position.
The orange dot kind of defeats the whole purpose of being a sniper. There only advantage is that they are far away from the battle.
True, they don't have a counter (save maybe cloaking when it comes) but snipers are meaningless is this game. They make no difference what-so-ever in the outcome of any game, ever... |
TEXA5 HiTM4N
Rogue Spades
EoN.
263
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Posted - 2013.11.08 20:44:00 -
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its that render distance. tends to make people 140 meters out, and vehicles/installations 70 meters out invisible.
Everything I say or do has the utmost relevance.
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CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
412
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Posted - 2013.11.08 21:07:00 -
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"Kill cams" are some of the most ridiculous **** possible in an FPS. Especially ones that give away snipers positions. What's the friggin point if everyone knows where everyone else is at all times?
I'm not even a sniper, it just ruins the gameplay. COD-esque BEE-ESS |
Oswald Rehnquist
488
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Posted - 2013.11.08 21:09:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:"Kill cams" are some of the most ridiculous **** possible in an FPS. Especially ones that give away snipers positions. What's the friggin point if everyone knows where everyone else is at all times?
I'm not even a sniper, it just ruins the gameplay. COD-esque BEE-ESS
Because snipers at +130m are the last few counters to ar users
Below 28 dB
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Cass Caul
261
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Posted - 2013.11.08 21:38:00 -
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With about 10,000 deaths, maybe 200 of those have been from Snipers killing me while on the ground. All of my ground suits, even my tiny litte Scout, can survive a headshot from anything other than a Thales (and I've got several suits that can even do that).
CCP made sure that nearly every outside objective in Skirmish can no longe be hit by a Sniper Rifle (though they did jackshit to Forge Guns and Rail Tanks from hitting them).
It's so easy to not get killed by a sniper. Fox's guide is pretty much it. Top-tier sniper's won't be found in the redline so it might be a problem for a skilless scrub like you, but even on my 700,000SP alts they don't kill me.
Go to marketplace, go to Militia gear, go to vehicles. Buy a Gorgon or Viper. Now look for the Militia equipment "Active scanner."
Go fly around the red line with the scanner. Then you can either try and crush them or jump out and take them out ith a weapons.
If you suck at this game so much you need a computer to let you know here 1 person is because he keeps killing you. . . you should probably just quit.
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Chad Michael Murray
NECROM0NGERS
130
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:19:00 -
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Sorry, this is not call of duty. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
899
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:23:00 -
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When someone is counter sniping I usually stand up and zig zag so whoever I'm with can find them.
What the fox say?
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ELITE INQUISITOR
Eternal Beings
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:24:00 -
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After I find out which direction the sniper is in I actively seek him out. Btw, i'm a scout. That's what we do.
If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
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Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
113
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:25:00 -
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A kill cam would destroy the sniper class. As it stands now with a rough direction, a range, and a specially built sniper hunter scout suit i can find and kill any sniper once i'm hit once. Its already to easy.
EVE - Victor Maximus
DUST - Azri Sarum
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ELITE INQUISITOR
Eternal Beings
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:31:00 -
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You could also just pick up a sniper rifle and counter snipe. You can use a militia sniper rifle and take out enemy snipers. If you don't want to do that then you really can't complain. Snipers are supposed to find safe places to snipe from. I love redline sniping cause I already know where the enemy snipers will be back there.
If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
4
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:32:00 -
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Cass CAUL wrote:
If you suck at this game so much you need a computer to let you know here 1 person is because he keeps killing you. . . you should probably just quit.
BEST SUGGESTION YET. Why waste your money on a second tier fps that isn't even close to finished that has only one level. Yiu just convinced me to go buy the Supreme tactical fps battlefield 4. Least they make it fair for everyone and has more than just one bland looking level.
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
4
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:36:00 -
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ELITE INQUISITOR wrote:You could also just pick up a sniper rifle and counter snipe. You can use a militia sniper rifle and take out enemy snipers. If you don't want to do that then you really can't complain. Snipers are supposed to find safe places to snipe from. I love redline sniping cause I already know where the enemy snipers will be back there.
No actually it wouldn't matter. If Yo have played the game more and spend real money you will always destroy the newer players. So that will denture any new players to want to play this game. So the game will never grow. Have fun playing with the same people.
Oh and are u going to have this game on ps4? Becuz if do you might wanna work on the graphics and rendering so it doesn't look like a broke ass Halo 2 like it currently does. |
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Kahn Zo
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
66
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:43:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
You got to be ****'n kidding me.
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Really?
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
4
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:48:00 -
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Really....... Troll |
Kahn Zo
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
66
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:55:00 -
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No Troll,
Just an observation from a sniper.
Pure Gallente
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
4
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:57:00 -
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Really? That's an observation? Wow you must be a sniper. Hide in the cut till everyone's gone then boom bs. Lol |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
931
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:59:00 -
[55] - Quote
If he is a sniper and you can't find him, then he is a good sniper and you should feel privileged! That said, if he is camping a hack panel or kills you as tac-drop from the mcc he is $@#&/-Ñ++#)+ù 
If he is a poor sniper, pullout mlt suit, glance across the mountains and enjoy headshotting him till, he rage quits!
The pen is mightier than the sword
The gun is mightier than both
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Kahn Zo
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
66
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:06:00 -
[56] - Quote
It is okay, I can sense your pain, frustration, anger, and dissolution.
some people feel that way about other weapons in dust as well.
The AR as it's now is off the charts.
But I am sure you are well aware of its capabilities as it is now.
I do hope the best for you and your en devours, I really do.
And from your postings and relpies,
sounds like you make yourself out to be a real quality guy out in the field, I bet you rock!
Pure Gallente
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Filthy Habitz
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
4
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:22:00 -
[57] - Quote
I don't I suck. Never said I was any good ever. It's frustrating when your kill death is 1/10 becuz of snipers and over powered vets.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5000
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:44:00 -
[58] - Quote
I once caught a Thale sniper.
Stabbed him in the back with Ishukone nova knives.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
10013
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Posted - 2013.11.09 03:17:00 -
[59] - Quote
I rather have a battle recorder that lets you replay previous battles so you can study and figure out what you did wrong. No module intel though.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Advanced Laser Rifle =// Unlocked
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ELITE INQUISITOR
Eternal Beings
11
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Posted - 2013.11.09 03:21:00 -
[60] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:I once caught a Thale sniper.
Stabbed him in the back with Ishukone nova knives.
Impressive. I just shotgun them.
If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
329
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Posted - 2013.11.09 03:29:00 -
[61] - Quote
Filthy Habitz wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol The forums are within our range to Of course they are within ur range everything for a sniper is in range. That's my point. It's an unfair advantage. Just like saying AR's are over powered. Snipers have the unfair advantage of being hidden and away from the action. It doesn't make the game more strategic at all. It just gives player more of a reason to be a sniper. If u die less you spend less. This game favors vets way to much to attract new players. Newbs are like lambs to the slaughter with no equal playing field. In all other shooters you are fairly equal. Might have different guns that have different options. But no online fps has such a difference between new to vet then this. The more you play the easier the game becomes. So if you play alot you have 1000hp with a better gun and gadgets. If you new you have 200hp with a price of **** milita gun and you die 100 over. I know you don't wanna be like bf or Cod. But at least make it fair. Or is that the point? Make it impossible for those who try the game and don't buy anything and favor the chumps who dump 100 bucks for kits? So in the end this game has **** all to do with skill and all about how much money you are willing to spend. Okay gotcha Guess it's time to switch to boring sniper.
*** Says the guy who has a habit
*** Of standing still just like a rabbit
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
292
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Posted - 2013.11.09 03:53:00 -
[62] - Quote
Filthy Habitz wrote:They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from.
Is that not in a sniper's job description? LOL. Someone's played a little too much CoD in their lifetime.
Don't get me wrong though, I have felt the same frustration regularly, but - much like devoting time to taking out a pesky tank - dealing with snipers is the same.... co-ordinate your efforts.
At no point do I want to see kill cams in this game, although - as a noob - I did think it might be a good idea. That was before I got to know the game and learned other ways to deal with problems/threats on the battlefield.
Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5003
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Posted - 2013.11.09 04:33:00 -
[63] - Quote
Flint Beastgood III wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. Is that not in a sniper's job description? LOL. Someone's played a little too much CoD in their lifetime. Don't get me wrong though, I have felt the same frustration regularly, but - much like devoting time to taking out a pesky tank - dealing with snipers is the same.... co-ordinate your efforts. At no point do I want to see kill cams in this game, although - as a noob - I did think it might be a good idea. That was before I got to know the game and learned other ways to deal with problems/threats on the battlefield.
Quoted for truth.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2750
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:55:00 -
[64] - Quote
Filthy Habitz wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol The forums are within our range to Of course they are within ur range everything for a sniper is in range. That's my point. It's an unfair advantage. Just like saying AR's are over powered. Snipers have the unfair advantage of being hidden and away from the action. It doesn't make the game more strategic at all. It just gives player more of a reason to be a sniper. If u die less you spend less. This game favors vets way to much to attract new players. Newbs are like lambs to the slaughter with no equal playing field. In all other shooters you are fairly equal. Might have different guns that have different options. But no online fps has such a difference between new to vet then this. The more you play the easier the game becomes. So if you play alot you have 1000hp with a better gun and gadgets. If you new you have 200hp with a price of **** milita gun and you die 100 over. I know you don't wanna be like bf or Cod. But at least make it fair. Or is that the point? Make it impossible for those who try the game and don't buy anything and favor the chumps who dump 100 bucks for kits? So in the end this game has **** all to do with skill and all about how much money you are willing to spend. Okay gotcha Guess it's time to switch to boring sniper.
The only money I've ever put in this game was the $20 for the merc pack so I could get the code for the closed beta. I've never felt I had an unfair disadvantage to the guys I know who dropped 100s of dollars into this game. If you suck at this game get better.
I am one of the original snipers in this game and I have been nerfed horrendously through out the builds. Time and time again there has been scrubs like you crying on the forums about how you cant play the game cuz you don't know how to wiggle around the left analog stick to avoid our shots. Your cries and pleas are of no concern to anything but my appetite for the sweet nectar flowing down your face. You people are no longer heard, you can move your ass or you can stand there and offer yourself as sacrifice to the jaws of my Thale.
...your move
A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
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Koan Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
24
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:09:00 -
[65] - Quote
IMOP kill cams were the worst addition to games...and psuedo kill cams that make you look in the dirrection the shot came from. If they dont one shot you, theres a marker that shows where they shot from. When you die, theres a distance to target number. If your that mad at the sniper you can go hunt them down. Personally I just try not to give them a shot on me if their more than 400 meters away. |
VAHZZ
The dyst0pian Corporation
78
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:12:00 -
[66] - Quote
Flint Beastgood III wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. Is that not in a sniper's job description? LOL. Someone's played a little too much CoD in their lifetime. Don't get me wrong though, I have felt the same frustration regularly, but - much like devoting time to taking out a pesky tank - dealing with snipers is the same.... co-ordinate your efforts. At no point do I want to see kill cams in this game, although - as a noob - I did think it might be a good idea. That was before I got to know the game and learned other ways to deal with problems/threats on the battlefield.
Well said, the truth this one speaks.
> Master of the Sniper
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
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Seeth Mensch
highland marines
50
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:46:00 -
[67] - Quote
Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
OK, so I'm a sniper hater. It's not that I hate snipers, per say, but the players that only focus on K/D and assume that they are helping their team by taking out those 5-10 clones.
A good sniper hangs back, covers objectives, provides intelligence (scans), picks off guys in the middle of a fight with their allies...basically, adds to the team beyond "I got one."
I thought Kill Cams would be legit, too, for a long time. I have come around to the feeling that if the same sniper nails me a couple of times, I should pay better attention to where he's at, get assistance from squadmates, and generally keep my head down. Their role is to be a dispenser of death from distance, after all. Kill cams reinforce lemming style play by requiring the sniper to be either in an unassailable position (f**king redliners) or running around constantly (therefore losing strategic viability).
Yeah, it's frustrating to be on the end of a long run then dead. Not sure we want to introduce an entire new dimension to intelligence gathering though ("I ran my free suit over there and found him guys!") |
Cato Avgvstvs
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:52:00 -
[68] - Quote
Filthy Habitz wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol The forums are within our range to Of course they are within ur range everything for a sniper is in range. That's my point. It's an unfair advantage. Just like saying AR's are over powered. Snipers have the unfair advantage of being hidden and away from the action. It doesn't make the game more strategic at all. It just gives player more of a reason to be a sniper. If u die less you spend less. This game favors vets way to much to attract new players. Newbs are like lambs to the slaughter with no equal playing field. In all other shooters you are fairly equal. Might have different guns that have different options. But no online fps has such a difference between new to vet then this. The more you play the easier the game becomes. So if you play alot you have 1000hp with a better gun and gadgets. If you new you have 200hp with a price of **** milita gun and you die 100 over. I know you don't wanna be like bf or Cod. But at least make it fair. Or is that the point? Make it impossible for those who try the game and don't buy anything and favor the chumps who dump 100 bucks for kits? So in the end this game has **** all to do with skill and all about how much money you are willing to spend. Okay gotcha Guess it's time to switch to boring sniper.
This is CCP's whole thing. They want the players to go wild. They want players to find exploits. EVE is also a top-heavy game. However, joining a Corp or even a decent squad will raise your chances a lot.
I've been places...
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Cato Avgvstvs
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:57:00 -
[69] - Quote
8213 wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
The killcam won't work. In CoD, scout Snipers know to just keep there scope up for a couple seconds after a kill, so the killcam doesn't display the landscape and give away their position. The orange dot kind of defeats the whole purpose of being a sniper. There only advantage is that they are far away from the battle. True, they don't have a counter (save maybe cloaking when it comes) but snipers are meaningless is this game. They make no difference what-so-ever in the outcome of any game, ever...
You haven't played me.
I've been places...
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
216
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:08:00 -
[70] - Quote
Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating.
Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
NO.
First of all, because you get hit detection - you know form with direction Sniper is shooting.
Secondly, KillCam it's the most noobish game mechanic ever created.
Thirdly, KillCam will interfere with Cloaking Device(in future).
I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
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