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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.09 03:29:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol The forums are within our range to Of course they are within ur range everything for a sniper is in range. That's my point. It's an unfair advantage. Just like saying AR's are over powered. Snipers have the unfair advantage of being hidden and away from the action. It doesn't make the game more strategic at all. It just gives player more of a reason to be a sniper. If u die less you spend less. This game favors vets way to much to attract new players. Newbs are like lambs to the slaughter with no equal playing field. In all other shooters you are fairly equal. Might have different guns that have different options. But no online fps has such a difference between new to vet then this. The more you play the easier the game becomes. So if you play alot you have 1000hp with a better gun and gadgets. If you new you have 200hp with a price of **** milita gun and you die 100 over. I know you don't wanna be like bf or Cod. But at least make it fair. Or is that the point? Make it impossible for those who try the game and don't buy anything and favor the chumps who dump 100 bucks for kits? So in the end this game has **** all to do with skill and all about how much money you are willing to spend. Okay gotcha Guess it's time to switch to boring sniper.
*** Says the guy who has a habit *** Of standing still just like a rabbit
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
292
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Posted - 2013.11.09 03:53:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from.
Is that not in a sniper's job description? LOL. Someone's played a little too much CoD in their lifetime.
Don't get me wrong though, I have felt the same frustration regularly, but - much like devoting time to taking out a pesky tank - dealing with snipers is the same.... co-ordinate your efforts.
At no point do I want to see kill cams in this game, although - as a noob - I did think it might be a good idea. That was before I got to know the game and learned other ways to deal with problems/threats on the battlefield.
Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5003
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Posted - 2013.11.09 04:33:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. Is that not in a sniper's job description? LOL. Someone's played a little too much CoD in their lifetime. Don't get me wrong though, I have felt the same frustration regularly, but - much like devoting time to taking out a pesky tank - dealing with snipers is the same.... co-ordinate your efforts. At no point do I want to see kill cams in this game, although - as a noob - I did think it might be a good idea. That was before I got to know the game and learned other ways to deal with problems/threats on the battlefield.
Quoted for truth.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Sleepy Zan
Xer Cloud Consortium
2750
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:55:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol The forums are within our range to Of course they are within ur range everything for a sniper is in range. That's my point. It's an unfair advantage. Just like saying AR's are over powered. Snipers have the unfair advantage of being hidden and away from the action. It doesn't make the game more strategic at all. It just gives player more of a reason to be a sniper. If u die less you spend less. This game favors vets way to much to attract new players. Newbs are like lambs to the slaughter with no equal playing field. In all other shooters you are fairly equal. Might have different guns that have different options. But no online fps has such a difference between new to vet then this. The more you play the easier the game becomes. So if you play alot you have 1000hp with a better gun and gadgets. If you new you have 200hp with a price of **** milita gun and you die 100 over. I know you don't wanna be like bf or Cod. But at least make it fair. Or is that the point? Make it impossible for those who try the game and don't buy anything and favor the chumps who dump 100 bucks for kits? So in the end this game has **** all to do with skill and all about how much money you are willing to spend. Okay gotcha Guess it's time to switch to boring sniper. The only money I've ever put in this game was the $20 for the merc pack so I could get the code for the closed beta. I've never felt I had an unfair disadvantage to the guys I know who dropped 100s of dollars into this game. If you suck at this game get better.
I am one of the original snipers in this game and I have been nerfed horrendously through out the builds. Time and time again there has been scrubs like you crying on the forums about how you cant play the game cuz you don't know how to wiggle around the left analog stick to avoid our shots. Your cries and pleas are of no concern to anything but my appetite for the sweet nectar flowing down your face. You people are no longer heard, you can move your ass or you can stand there and offer yourself as sacrifice to the jaws of my Thale.
...your move
A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
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Koan Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
24
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:09:00 -
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IMOP kill cams were the worst addition to games...and psuedo kill cams that make you look in the dirrection the shot came from. If they dont one shot you, theres a marker that shows where they shot from. When you die, theres a distance to target number. If your that mad at the sniper you can go hunt them down. Personally I just try not to give them a shot on me if their more than 400 meters away. |
VAHZZ
The dyst0pian Corporation
78
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:12:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. Is that not in a sniper's job description? LOL. Someone's played a little too much CoD in their lifetime. Don't get me wrong though, I have felt the same frustration regularly, but - much like devoting time to taking out a pesky tank - dealing with snipers is the same.... co-ordinate your efforts. At no point do I want to see kill cams in this game, although - as a noob - I did think it might be a good idea. That was before I got to know the game and learned other ways to deal with problems/threats on the battlefield.
Well said, the truth this one speaks.
> Master of the Sniper
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
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Seeth Mensch
highland marines
50
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:46:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating. Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
OK, so I'm a sniper hater. It's not that I hate snipers, per say, but the players that only focus on K/D and assume that they are helping their team by taking out those 5-10 clones.
A good sniper hangs back, covers objectives, provides intelligence (scans), picks off guys in the middle of a fight with their allies...basically, adds to the team beyond "I got one."
I thought Kill Cams would be legit, too, for a long time. I have come around to the feeling that if the same sniper nails me a couple of times, I should pay better attention to where he's at, get assistance from squadmates, and generally keep my head down. Their role is to be a dispenser of death from distance, after all. Kill cams reinforce lemming style play by requiring the sniper to be either in an unassailable position (f**king redliners) or running around constantly (therefore losing strategic viability).
Yeah, it's frustrating to be on the end of a long run then dead. Not sure we want to introduce an entire new dimension to intelligence gathering though ("I ran my free suit over there and found him guys!") |
Cato Avgvstvs
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:52:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:I find it funny everyone say AR are OP well maybe the snipers and MD guys say that.. But when you have a legitimate beef against snipers they all come out of hiding on the red line to defend their cowardly ways lol The forums are within our range to Of course they are within ur range everything for a sniper is in range. That's my point. It's an unfair advantage. Just like saying AR's are over powered. Snipers have the unfair advantage of being hidden and away from the action. It doesn't make the game more strategic at all. It just gives player more of a reason to be a sniper. If u die less you spend less. This game favors vets way to much to attract new players. Newbs are like lambs to the slaughter with no equal playing field. In all other shooters you are fairly equal. Might have different guns that have different options. But no online fps has such a difference between new to vet then this. The more you play the easier the game becomes. So if you play alot you have 1000hp with a better gun and gadgets. If you new you have 200hp with a price of **** milita gun and you die 100 over. I know you don't wanna be like bf or Cod. But at least make it fair. Or is that the point? Make it impossible for those who try the game and don't buy anything and favor the chumps who dump 100 bucks for kits? So in the end this game has **** all to do with skill and all about how much money you are willing to spend. Okay gotcha Guess it's time to switch to boring sniper. This is CCP's whole thing. They want the players to go wild. They want players to find exploits. EVE is also a top-heavy game. However, joining a Corp or even a decent squad will raise your chances a lot.
I've been places...
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Cato Avgvstvs
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 01:57:00 -
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8213 wrote:Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating. Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
The killcam won't work. In CoD, scout Snipers know to just keep there scope up for a couple seconds after a kill, so the killcam doesn't display the landscape and give away their position. The orange dot kind of defeats the whole purpose of being a sniper. There only advantage is that they are far away from the battle. True, they don't have a counter (save maybe cloaking when it comes) but snipers are meaningless is this game. They make no difference what-so-ever in the outcome of any game, ever... You haven't played me.
I've been places...
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
216
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:08:00 -
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Filthy Habitz wrote:Something has to be done about these leveled up snipers. They kill you for somewhere and u never get to find out where from. If there was a kill cam or even a blip on ur radar that only showed u where you were shot from it would make it less frustrating. Just a suggestion. Flame on flamers
NO. First of all, because you get hit detection - you know form with direction Sniper is shooting. Secondly, KillCam it's the most noobish game mechanic ever created. Thirdly, KillCam will interfere with Cloaking Device(in future).
I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
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