Oh, so THATS who rents the next door Merc Quarters.

Ah he is just being melodramatic, he gets that way sometimes, though if my Master chooses to administer, or not administer, Vitroc, is an entirely personal aspect of our relationship. He is a kind master, one I am happy to serve.

Either way the one you'd be dealing with is me for is me, Kador is pretty helpless outside of his tank.

I guess there is no reforming sick bastards such as yourself.

What caused you to become the way you did? If I were to kidnap Gallente women and torture them for my own sick fantasies, would you be content about it?

And we'd never allow your filth to touch our beautiful Titans

Search for the speaker of truths. You'll like it.

No one's perfect.

But when all four empires' atrocities are compared, Gallente seem to have the least of them.
Not by much to make a difference for the people suffering, but enough for the other races to take a good hard look at themselves before shouting at the Gallente.

Minmatar is Israel
Caldari is the Tea Party and GOP
Galente is French Canada
Amarr is the Catholic Church

How is Minmatar Israel exactly?
I am an Israeli and I don't see the connection

Well lets see here, in the battle for Caldari prime where both Gal and Caldari citizens lived (both races came from the same solar system) The Caldari used a titan to hold the planet hostage and prevent massive civilian casualties. Gallente just run a scorched earth campaign bombarding the entire planet from orbit with dreadnaughts.

Again I just want to reiterate this isn't about who did what to who and in return did this the them, who then decided to....

Its a stand alone accusation of guilt at the treatment of POW's within the Gallentean Federation, who above all represent the drive to equality and fair treatment as well as observances of human rights.... something that in recent years has seemingly been lacking in the Federation under Roden's heel.

No one should have to go through malnourishment, physical torture, and **** while as POW's yet this happens, I am unaware of any such instances within the Empire, but then again there is much I do not know. All I can do is bring this issue to light and hope that as many people walk away with this in their minds as possible, and that some day one of you will be able to stop this, or save even one person from this kind of brutal treatment.

That I agree with.

I call bullshit on that True Adamance, you've heard from me and a few other Gallente RPers that there was a problem with our federation, even worse crimes than this before.

So uh, how did this thread appear in general discussions?
It's fun and all, but it doesn't fit :P

And I did not care.... recent events.... have forced me to revise my previously help opinions.

Prior to now I could at best been described as haughty and arrogant, solely concerned with the business of the Empire and a known denouncer of the Matari for the least of simple sins.

That time is done, arrogance is a weakness in me that I have tried to leave behind.

....In seeing these people first hand though..... these mortals so poorly treated... well I suppose its well known I have a soft spot for mortals.

Too many people try to mistakenly label the Empires of New Eden this way.

I am unaware of any such instances within the Empire, but then again there is much I do not know.

So long as you send me a copy of the tape and I get a share of the publishing rights, I can supply you with a few 'playmates' of your own. Which would you prefer, Pure Gallente, Intaki or Jin Mei.

I call bullshit on that True Adamance, you've heard from me and a few other Gallente RPers that there was a problem with our federation, even worse crimes than this before.

It's funny how the player base loves to rag on the Amarr about slavery. If any of them actually read some lore, they'd know it's not as bad as it sounds; although by nature it's still unethical.

The Nation's slavery on the other hand is the stuff of nightmares. Seriously if you want to rag on slavery, go read the lore on the Nation.

Ohhhhh my, yes there IS a lot you do not know it seems.

You see, before Vitoc came around, slaves were not exactly treated well, and by that I mean they were worked to death by the thousands. Whipped, beaten, tortured, you name it.

That may not exist anymore, but ONLY because Vitoc makes your slaves nice and drunk, happy to live in a stupor, because if they don't get the mind-numbing antidote, they die a horrible painful death. Yes, this sure is much more humane. How far your people have come...


Or lets not forget the more recent debacle of the 62nd printing of the Pax 'Ammaria'. If you do not know about this one, and I suspect you don't, let me give you the short and sweet version.

All because of this one simple typo: spelling 'Ammaria' instead of 'Amarria'. The court chamberlains order for the misprinted copied to be purged due to what was a perceived grandiose error, meant that the Ordinators of the Court Chamberlain began their ferocious hunt for the books, and since it was ordered that ALL copied be purged, and the word of the office of the Court Chamberlain is absolute, as the books became harder and harder to find your own people went as far as USING ORBITAL STRIKES ON AMARRIAN COLONIES SUSPECTED OF HARBORING A SINGLE COPY.

You government has literally killed thousands of its own innocent people because of a spelling error.

Enjoy digesting that one.


I believe the point of all this is, that every empire has committed its own atrocities. Were Caldari POW's mistreated? Most likely yes, both in this case and many cases before.

But have no doubts that Gallentean POW's have been equally mistreated by Caldari jailers, and Minmatar and Amarr POW's also maimed and tortured by the other.

As long as people from one empire hate those of another for no reason, this will continue.

No one empire is cleaner than the other, no matter how hard you try and convince yourselves.

By the by, source of the Pax Ammaria story Here Yes, this is public knowledge. I also have access to a copy, if you ever want to borrow it...

Some of it isn't as bad as it sounds, some of it is far worse than it sounds. Have you ever seen a minmatar girlchild willingly walk to her molestor for a dose of vitoc? I have, in fact I've seen worse.

No one's perfect.

But when all four empires' atrocities are compared, Gallente seem to have the least of them.
Not by much to make a difference for the people suffering, but enough for the other races to take a good hard look at themselves before shouting at the Gallente.

I think that the Gallente are low on the scale of atrocities, however the least "evil" is a bit of a stretch

Gallente- Don't feed POWs, EXTREME wealth differences
Caldari- Value dollars and efficency more then people
Amarr- religious slavers
Minmatar- (I really don't know what the minis do wrong) Vagabonds?

I feel that Gallenteans are either below Amarr or below Caldari.

I feel that no one empire can be truly labeled evil, but the Amarr and Gallente have more stains on their history compared to Caldari and Minmatar.

That's from my knowledge of the empires.

That's and odd perception though understandable I suppose since the Gallente and Amarr are expansionist empires not matter how you look at it.