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DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2646	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:19:00 - [1] - Quote Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 44	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:24:00 - [2] - Quote i have all classes, your arguement is invalid > Master of the Sniper "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 295	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:27:00 - [3] - Quote I converted from a scout to a heavy... ...And then I converted from a heavy to a medium frame. (I would rather not think about how much SP I wasted attempting to play as the non-generic classes) But I will never convert to an AR. I can only stoop so low.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4124	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:35:00 - [4] - Quote You got a 250 health increase, what more do you wan't? Be a tank? Scouts are in a much worse state than heavies. Much worse. The 6m scan increase as a "buff" is insulting *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 755	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:40:00 - [5] - Quote I started to convert to a Minmatar Logi suit (had level 1) before I just said **** it I quit. I say good for you as long as you are still having fun. (runs back to Battlefield 4)
Sleepy Zan Xer Cloud Consortium 2726	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:43:00 - [6] - Quote NO BALLS! A good sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a good sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield
castba Penguin's March 181	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:46:00 - [7] - Quote Convert? NEVAH!! Although I am fighting the urge to skill into AR..... must.... resist....
Cass Caul 247	Posted - 2013.11.07 07:56:00 - [8] - Quote But, 1550 HP Sentinel A-1 BPO is just so great with a charged sniper rifle in the red line. Without it where would I get all my hatemail for using the most pathetic tactic? Oh, right, Also my Limbus sitting right next to me. 1 part cover, 1 part repair tool, 1 part escape route. Good thing I'm more than 300m out, that way you're AV can't touch me. +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 46	Posted - 2013.11.07 07:58:00 - [9] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: NO BALLS! Love the signature man > Master of the Sniper "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 804	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:04:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: You got a 250 health increase, what more do you wan't? Be a tank? Scouts are in a much worse state than heavies. Much worse. The 6m scan increase as a "buff" is insulting It's not the suit that needs a buff, it's the HMG :( "If your enemy is equal prepare for him, if greater elude him, if weaker.... crush him"

Rusty Shallows 474	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:05:00 - [11] - Quote Look at the Original Poster talking crazy. Stop being so right you crazy person. Stop being a bad crazy person. A good crazy person calls for nerfs against everything he doesn't use. You bad crazy person you. VAHZZ wrote: i have all classes, your arguement is invalid Which means you're 1/3rd right and 2/3rds wrong. Leaving you overall 1/3rd wrong. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Rusty Shallows 474	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:07:00 - [12] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: But, 1550 HP Sentinel A-1 BPO is just so great with a charged sniper rifle in the red line. Without it where would I get all my hatemail for using the most pathetic tactic? Oh, right, Also my Limbus sitting right next to me. 1 part cover, 1 part repair tool, 1 part escape route. Good thing I'm more than 300m out, that way you're AV can't touch me. o7 I'll say the same thing I said when heavies became the racing suits of LLAVs. Game working as intended. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 562	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:09:00 - [13] - Quote Screw you, I'm staying a masochist. Grahisha of the ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 655	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:10:00 - [14] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Look at the Original Poster talking crazy. Stop being so right you crazy person. Stop being a bad crazy person. A good crazy person calls for nerfs against everything he doesn't use. You bad crazy person you. VAHZZ wrote: i have all classes, your arguement is invalid Which means you're 1/3rd right and 2/3rds wrong. Leaving you overall 1/3rd wrong. Preach it, OP. VAHZZ - the call is for the scouts and heavies....
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 46	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:17:00 - [15] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Look at the Original Poster talking crazy. Stop being so right you crazy person. Stop being a bad crazy person. A good crazy person calls for nerfs against everything he doesn't use. You bad crazy person you. VAHZZ wrote: i have all classes, your arguement is invalid Which means you're 1/3rd right and 2/3rds wrong. Leaving you overall 1/3rd wrong. Preach it, OP. VAHZZ - the call is for the scouts and heavies.... I am an Intaki Gallente Sniper Scout - and an Amarr Commando...those are the two i run the most..my other profiles barely ever see the light of day as they just sit there...don't make me snipe you...i can see you...i know where you sit! > Master of the Sniper "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 655	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:22:00 - [16] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: I am an Intaki Gallente Sniper Scout - and an Amarr Commando...those are the two i run the most..my other profiles barely ever see the light of day as they just sit there...don't make me snipe you...i can see you...i know where you sit! Do it!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 698	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:27:00 - [17] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! NEVER! Awesomeness over utility. Fun over trying hardness (?). If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 48	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:30:00 - [18] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: VAHZZ wrote: I am an Intaki Gallente Sniper Scout - and an Amarr Commando...those are the two i run the most..my other profiles barely ever see the light of day as they just sit there...don't make me snipe you...i can see you...i know where you sit! Do it! I can't..i'm eating a taco...tacos before brochachos > Master of the Sniper "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
Acturus Galaxy duna corp 161	Posted - 2013.11.07 08:33:00 - [19] - Quote I converted from logi to scout and love it, you just got tired of running scout all the time. I got tired running logi and like the speed, avoiding scanners and having huge passive scans. I am confident you will soon fall back to your scout, when you start getting shot in the back because your scan range and precission is bad and you will not be able to hide behind a doorway as your scan profile is high, you will sincerely miss your scout. I also have a heavy with forge when I need to blow up some stuff, I love Dust and the variety. Assaults are boring There is nothing better than being in your skinny scout, watching the red dot move closer, knowing he is unaware of your presence. I need the surprise moment to win as he is a tanked assault, oh, the adrenaline and satisfaction when you get the kill in your skinny scout. How boring it is in my logi with stacked damage mods.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2650	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:00:00 - [20] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: I converted from logi to scout and love it, you just got tired of running scout all the time. I got tired running logi and like the speed, avoiding scanners and having huge passive scans. I am confident you will soon fall back to your scout, when you start getting shot in the back because your scan range and precission is bad and you will not be able to hide behind a doorway as your scan profile is high, you will sincerely miss your scout. I also have a heavy with forge when I need to blow up some stuff, I love Dust and the variety. Assaults are boring There is nothing better than being in your skinny scout, watching the red dot move closer, knowing he is unaware of your presence. I need the surprise moment to win as he is a tanked assault, oh, the adrenaline and satisfaction when you get the kill in your skinny scout. How boring it is in my logi with stacked damage mods. You're sort of right. Being scout for so long is pretty boring. However I think it's part CCPs fault for enhancing it I guess is the word. They destroyed the most fun part of the scout which was speed tanking, by adding in aim assist and improving hit detection (good thing btw lol) But after that... The only thing I could do was armor tank my scout to get good scores again. Which is like an assault fit.. Boring. But alas what can you do ya know? At least with my assault I might be more of an asset to my corp in PC.. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2

Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 656	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:01:00 - [21] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: I converted from logi to scout and love it, you just got tired of running scout all the time. I got tired running logi and like the speed, avoiding scanners and having huge passive scans. I am confident you will soon fall back to your scout, when you start getting shot in the back because your scan range and precission is bad and you will not be able to hide behind a doorway as your scan profile is high, you will sincerely miss your scout. I also have a heavy with forge when I need to blow up some stuff, I love Dust and the variety. Assaults are boring There is nothing better than being in your skinny scout, watching the red dot move closer, knowing he is unaware of your presence. I need the surprise moment to win as he is a tanked assault, oh, the adrenaline and satisfaction when you get the kill in your skinny scout. How boring it is in my logi with stacked damage mods. I like your feedback and I salute you for going scout! But I need to say that there is a BIG difference in a scout using a medium suit v.s. a medium suit player learning how to scout in a scout suit. Shot in the back: Eyes everywhere at all times, rotate, as a scout you are thin and this habit helps you stay alive in your medium frame suit. Additionally, your greater number of high slots on a medium frame and more CPU/PG means adding a complex precision enhancer (which you've probably already skilled up as a scout) is easy-peasy. Problem solved. -Note you've also likely got range L5, so your 15 meter of passive range is extendable to almost 30 with 1 measly complex range enhancer (low slot). Hiding behind doorway: Scouts never stay stationary, being fragile means being in motion. As a scout in a medium frame, if you chose forgo your training and adopt this playstyle, you are only a profile dampener away from making it work. With your already highly skilled profile dampening skills, slapping a complex profile dampener or two onto a medium suit with plenty of low slots and CPU/PG is easy-peasy. Problem solved. So - keep up the good scout work, but when a scout, someone who has been forged in the fires of hard-mode, says they are going medium frame: be afraid.
Acturus Galaxy duna corp 161	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:31:00 - [22] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: I converted from logi to scout and love it, you just got tired of running scout all the time. I got tired running logi and like the speed, avoiding scanners and having huge passive scans. I am confident you will soon fall back to your scout, when you start getting shot in the back because your scan range and precission is bad and you will not be able to hide behind a doorway as your scan profile is high, you will sincerely miss your scout. I also have a heavy with forge when I need to blow up some stuff, I love Dust and the variety. Assaults are boring There is nothing better than being in your skinny scout, watching the red dot move closer, knowing he is unaware of your presence. I need the surprise moment to win as he is a tanked assault, oh, the adrenaline and satisfaction when you get the kill in your skinny scout. How boring it is in my logi with stacked damage mods. I like your feedback and I salute you for going scout! But I need to say that there is a BIG difference in a scout using a medium suit v.s. a medium suit player learning how to scout in a scout suit. Shot in the back: Eyes everywhere at all times, rotate, as a scout you are thin and this habit helps you stay alive in your medium frame suit. Additionally, your greater number of high slots on a medium frame and more CPU/PG means adding a complex precision enhancer (which you've probably already skilled up as a scout) is easy-peasy. Problem solved. -Note you've also likely got range L5, so your 15 meter of passive range is extendable to almost 30 with 1 measly complex range enhancer (low slot). Hiding behind doorway: Scouts never stay stationary, being fragile means being in motion. As a scout in a medium frame, if you chose forgo your training and adopt this playstyle, you are only a profile dampener away from making it work. With your already highly skilled profile dampening skills, slapping a complex profile dampener or two onto a medium suit with plenty of low slots and CPU/PG is easy-peasy. Problem solved. So - keep up the good scout work, but when a scout, someone who has been forged in the fires of hard-mode, says they are going medium frame: be afraid. Thank you for the good advice. I think having played both a medium frame scout actually makes you better as you know the others weaknesses. It is not as easy as you say regarding the medium frames and adding complex enhancers, range and dampeners. Most medium frames including me are build to survive at the frontline, ie with shield, armor and damage mods, only few are putting on the electronics modules that I know of. Tank and damage mods are needed to survive encounters vs other assault players. If I start adding other modules I will likely have less tank and less damage than my opponent. And also running in a prot logi at the price of 245k, I better make sure I have enough tank to survive a few hits, a MD shot etc or I would run out of isk quickly. This comes at a price, I need to stay close to my team mates as I am a fairly easy prey for a scout if I am alone. Not like the scout that can get kills even having much less eHP. I am going totally paranoid as a logi sometimes, running out of stamina and knowing red dots are close by. They will most likely pick me up on their tachnet when they get close enough, has gotten me killed plenty of times, not being able to hide long enough for my shields and armor to regenerate. As a scout on the other hand, I have enjoyed standing behind a doorway, pillar, or other debris and watched the unaware red dot move right past me. Take two step out and kill the red dot. The scout can run away, keep an eye on the tach net and see when the followers loose their track of my location, then move back and shoot them in the back. Not to mention the heavy frame, I cannot even see a medium frame move up right behind me with the poor scan precission. How I enjoy running scout and no longer get shot in the back by other scouts. You have no idea how frightening and scary scouts can be to medium frames. I remember running in squads where everyone freaked about a minja with nova knives was running around and killing us when we were alone. The scout can be very scary, just knowing there is one in the area can be enough to make you go crazy
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 333	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:34:00 - [23] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! This game is all about diversity: You can chose between four medium suits, two (soon 4) assaut rifles, and two grenades. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Purona The Vanguardians 70	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:40:00 - [24] - Quote i have a character created to do nothing but be a heavy so No i refuse to convert
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 656	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:51:00 - [25] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: Thank you for the good advice. I think having played both a medium frame scout actually makes you better as you know the others weaknesses. It is not as easy as you say regarding the medium frames and adding complex enhancers, range and dampeners. Most medium frames including me are build to survive at the frontline, ie with shield, armor and damage mods, only few are putting on the electronics modules that I know of. Tank and damage mods are needed to survive encounters vs other assault players. If I start adding other modules I will likely have less tank and less damage than my opponent. And also running in a prot logi at the price of 245k, I better make sure I have enough tank to survive a few hits, a MD shot etc or I would run out of isk quickly. This comes at a price, I need to stay close to my team mates as I am a fairly easy prey for a scout if I am alone. Not like the scout that can get kills even having much less eHP. I am going totally paranoid as a logi sometimes, running out of stamina and knowing red dots are close by. They will most likely pick me up on their tachnet when they get close enough, has gotten me killed plenty of times, not being able to hide long enough for my shields and armor to regenerate. As a scout on the other hand, I have enjoyed standing behind a doorway, pillar, or other debris and watched the unaware red dot move right past me. Take two step out and kill the red dot. The scout can run away, keep an eye on the tach net and see when the followers loose their track of my location, then move back and shoot them in the back. Not to mention the heavy frame, I cannot even see a medium frame move up right behind me with the poor scan precission. How I enjoy running scout and no longer get shot in the back by other scouts. You have no idea how frightening and scary scouts can be to medium frames. I remember running in squads where everyone freaked about a minja with nova knives was running around and killing us when we were alone. The scout can be very scary, just knowing there is one in the area can be enough to make you go crazy I hear you and you are right that having played both frames provides a level of insight that can be very useful. And, I'm glad to hear scouts are still scary to some. You say that it's not easy to fit the electronic mods, and for most medium frames it is not - but for a scout in medium suit it is pretty easy. With good dampening/range/precision scout skills, putting one or two of these mods on a medium suit and making them work with the reduction in tank is very feasible. I was mostly coming from the perspective of a seasoned scout moving on to a medium frame, and how it will likely be more deadly on the field than their scout fits, given their SP and practice/training as a scout. I feel your pain on running medium suits. I have a few medium frame fits on other alt's (who don't have scout skills such as the electronics and biotics, etc....) it's harder. You are a big, easy to see, slow target and you need to stay in a group with a good weapon to wreck shop reliably. If I go off alone I need to be pretty good and have some nice damage weapons; but even on these accounts I do fine without my scout SP/skills since the constant stomping I get in my scout suit has made me decent enough to stay out of trouble even when off alone in a medium suit. However, when I throw on a standard medium frame assault suit on this character - it's night and day. I can go stealth/aware, armor/shield tank, DPS, speed demon, but usually a combination of two of the previous (which most scouts below proto just can't do).... and I do a thousand times better then when I run scout. The practice/training as a scout over the months, plus the SP in my scout skills - it's just magic; and that's why it's hard to stay scout after a while (for some).
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1270	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:51:00 - [26] - Quote Back when uprising first came out and everyone was using shield tanked suits I switched to the scrambler rifle and started owning players. Eventually they all switched to armor tanked suits and now I just have to switch to the combat rifle and do the same thing. but gosh dangit why are ARs allowed to be twice as effective as any other weapon? Just doesn't make sense. List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Acturus Galaxy duna corp 162	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:12:00 - [27] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: I hear you and you are right that having played both frames provides a level of insight that can be very useful. And, I'm glad to hear scouts are still scary to some. You say that it's not easy to fit the electronic mods, and for most medium frames it is not - but for a scout in medium suit it is pretty easy. With good dampening/range/precision scout skills, putting one or two of these mods on a medium suit and making them work with the reduction in tank is very feasible. I was mostly coming from the perspective of a seasoned scout moving on to a medium frame, and how it will likely be more deadly on the field than their scout fits, given their SP and practice/training as a scout. I feel your pain on running medium suits. I have a few medium frame fits on other alt's (who don't have scout skills such as the electronics and biotics, etc....). You are a big, easy to see, slow target and you need to stay in a group with a good weapon to wreck shop reliably. If I go off alone I need to be pretty good and have some nice damage weapons; but even on these accounts I do fine without my scout SP/skills since the constant stomping I get in my scout suit has made me decent enough to stay out of trouble even when off alone in a medium suit. However, when I throw on a standard medium frame assault suit on this character - it's night and day. I can go stealth/aware, armor/shield tank, DPS, speed demon, but usually a combination of two of the previous (which most scouts below proto just can't do).... and I do a thousand times better then when I run scout. The practice/training as a scout over the months, plus the SP in my scout skills - it's just magic; and that's why it's hard to stay scout after a while (for some). Interesting, I never though of converting a medium frame to function as a scout. I wonder if I can do this and keep the expense below 30 isk, get a medium frame with below 36db profile, get 30meters scan radius, get close to 40db scan precision, speed and stamina. I would really not like to miss any of these again now that I have had a taste of running scout. I still only have level 3 scout, but have banked 1.6mill sp and plan to go proto scout. Was initially planning for the proto heavy gallente, but now I will definitely go for the scout. My most used scout only costs 23k isk, have 220 shields, 280 armor, exile AR, toxin smg, advanced quantum scanner, 2 complex shield extenders, armor plate and reactive plate. I sometimes switch the armor plate for a scanning range module if I do not have the advanced scanner equipped. I love this build. I think the main reason I have fallen in love with the scout, is that I can still switch to my logi for the matches where I cannot find a descent squad or just have the lady luck against me, still adjusting to running full time as scout.
Vesperz D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 12	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:12:00 - [28] - Quote Neveeeerrrr! Scout 4 lyfe!
JieXi Bao R 0 N 1 N 26	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:22:00 - [29] - Quote I just mentally fit a gal logi analogue to my favorite fits... drool. Confucius say: Man who get in pissing contest on internet ruin computer.
Death Dealer86 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 73	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:28:00 - [30] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! I have converted... To a better twitch shooter since this is what Dust is becoming. It's a damn shame. It's kinda like the hottest girl you know smoking rocks. What a waste!

8213 Grade No.2 554	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:32:00 - [31] - Quote It is very apparent there is only one way to play Call of Duty ahem I mean DUST 514... yeah DUST 514... whoops To not use the typical setup of: Full squad, w/ scanner Gallente Medium Frame - Damage mods on the left, Armor on the right Assault Rifle - preferably a GEK-38, so you can free up CPU/PG for more armor and Damage mods And plenty of grenades to chuck when you realize that you can't shoot for sh*t :would be plain foolish. DUST tried being "different" and people don't want that. They want easy mode. And DUST will be easy mode, because easy mode makes money...
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 482	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:39:00 - [32] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! if and when you do I do not wanna be on the other side of that build let me know when you hit your 100 kill game SOONGäó
Haerr Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 86	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:28:00 - [33] - Quote Ugh I guess it can not be avoided any longer. I'll start working on a logi suit now. So many SPs spent on biotics and passive scanning... Is the breach shotgun working as inteded?
superjoe360x D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 110	Posted - 2013.11.07 13:04:00 - [34] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: But, 1550 HP Sentinel A-1 BPO is just so great with a charged sniper rifle in the red line. Without it where would I get all my hatemail for using the most pathetic tactic? Oh, right, Also my Limbus sitting right next to me. 1 part cover, 1 part repair tool, 1 part escape route. Good thing I'm more than 300m out, that way you're AV can't touch me. I cant wait to see you on the field that way I can hunt you and kill you. Im sure your in the redline and if you think your safe your wrong. Just ask symbiotic forks or that thale guy from nyan san. I will kill you for being a pansy sniper.
Jacques Cayton II Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 80	Posted - 2013.11.07 13:08:00 - [35] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: You got a 250 health increase, what more do you wan't? Be a tank? Scouts are in a much worse state than heavies. Much worse. The 6m scan increase as a "buff" is insulting Sir your primary weapons are good your suit is bad, but a heavies suit is good and weapons are bad (hmg)
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 515	Posted - 2013.11.07 13:54:00 - [36] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: You got a 250 health increase, what more do you wan't? Be a tank? Scouts are in a much worse state than heavies. Much worse. The 6m scan increase as a "buff" is insulting They want heavies to be strong enough so that you'd have to use Swarm launchers to take em out... Caldari AR suit user, i know what nerfing feels like. When all the lolLogi are running around with 3 damage mods and multiple armor plates. I was wondering i should start going logi with Caldari Assault suit to rep the lolLogi crews
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1149	Posted - 2013.11.07 14:04:00 - [37] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! You people do understand that we don't have the suits and weapons because we told them to do something different. We have complained about everything under the sun. Then we demanded they fix lag, graphics, hit detection, getting stuck on the environment, op items, FW, PC, Matchmaking, UI, new player tutorials, better rewards, different gear, more maps, different game modes, different moods and a host of other things and we got most of them. They spent there time doing what we wanted and you all continue to bithc about how they don't do enough. Grow up. They are developing the medium frames and weapons because that is where 90% of players play. It would not be smart to cater to the 5% who play scouts and heavies. Think about it. Why do car manufactures produce small junk cars instead of a car that can do everything? It is because that is what the public needs and will use. Yeah I can go buy a Bently but how many have you ever even seen on the street. It is not very smart to provide to the minority when the majority doesn't have what they need and want. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 2087	Posted - 2013.11.07 18:14:00 - [38] - Quote Observations: The top Scout in the Game, converting to EZ Mode Medium Frame. A Top 100 Shotgunner, singing praises to the EZ Mode Assault Rifle. Question: What conclusions can we draw here?
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2671	Posted - 2013.11.07 18:28:00 - [39] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Observations: The top Scout in the Game, converting to EZ Mode Medium Frame. A Top 100 Shotgunner, singing praises to the EZ Mode Assault Rifle. Question: What conclusions can we draw here? Careful brother. If you speak ill will toward the EZ mode CCP might get mad... Mediums with rifles are there favorite after all GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
ER-Bullitt 578	Posted - 2013.11.07 20:02:00 - [40] - Quote Good game.

Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 344	Posted - 2013.11.07 20:24:00 - [41] - Quote Check it out guys I spent a bit of time updating a new player experience guide for 1.6, which will hopefully touch upon the range of knowledge needed to reach the higher levels of Dust 514 play. 1) Skill into AR 2) Buff your EHP 3) Find five other people who did the same thing Okay that's all I got so far did I miss anything.
Verek Locusti Closed For Business For All Mankind 7	Posted - 2013.11.07 20:30:00 - [42] - Quote Nope, using this week's SP to spec into h2h, should be interesting.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2675	Posted - 2013.11.07 20:32:00 - [43] - Quote Snaps Tremor wrote: Check it out guys I spent a bit of time updating a new player experience guide for 1.6, which will hopefully touch upon the range of knowledge needed to reach the higher levels of Dust 514 play. 1) Skill into AR 2) Buff your EHP 3) Find five other people who did the same thing Okay that's all I got so far did I miss anything. You forgot 4) skill into core locus grenades GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 163	Posted - 2013.11.07 20:46:00 - [44] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Snaps Tremor wrote: Check it out guys I spent a bit of time updating a new player experience guide for 1.6, which will hopefully touch upon the range of knowledge needed to reach the higher levels of Dust 514 play. 1) Skill into AR 2) Buff your EHP 3) Find five other people who did the same thing Okay that's all I got so far did I miss anything. You forgot 4) skill into core locus grenades 4 beening the purest ez mode when hives are under foot. I send little potatoes perfectly cooked one at a time.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1450	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:25:00 - [45] - Quote skilling into WInmatar Assault now. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Llast 326 An Arkhos 352	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:12:00 - [46] - Quote One day, in the not so distant future, one of your squad mates will say "WTF was that?" And you will tell them "That was a scout suit, his name is Llast. Some say he is the only one left, that he named himself that because he is a prophet. Some say he does not exist at all, that he is a glitch in the roster and killfeed. Others believe that he a ghost story to scare little blueberries into squading up. They say he can see you without a scan message, but he won't show up on your TACNET. That guarding an objective alone is the only way you'll see him. That the brief flashing at C, before it turns colour is him. That when you come for him, he is gone. He is the reason the enemy is not stuck behind the redline, those mysterious uplinks that show up past the killzone are his. Those are the ones who don't remember, who have never seen the other parts of the skill tree. But I remember the scout, the gloriously low hit points, the speed, the funGÇª I used to be one." "I am scared, what if he comes for me?" Don't be scared little blueberryGÇª. it only takes one bullet to make him go away" You tell them that when you said to convert, that Llast said "No"
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2686	Posted - 2013.11.08 01:11:00 - [47] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: One day, in the not so distant future, one of your squad mates will say "WTF was that?" And you will tell them "That was a scout suit, his name is Llast. Some say he is the only one left, that he named himself that because he is a prophet. Some say he does not exist at all, that he is a glitch in the roster and killfeed. Others believe that he a ghost story to scare little blueberries into squading up. They say he can see you without a scan message, but he won't show up on your TACNET. That guarding an objective alone is the only way you'll see him. That the brief flashing at C, before it turns colour is him. That when you come for him, he is gone. He is the reason the enemy is not stuck behind the redline, those mysterious uplinks that show up past the killzone are his. Those are the ones who don't remember, who have never seen the other parts of the skill tree. But I remember the scout, the gloriously low hit points, the speed, the funGÇª I used to be one." "I am scared, what if he comes for me?" Don't be scared little blueberryGÇª. it only takes one bullet to make him go away" You tell them that when you said to convert, that Llast said "No" Omg +1 That was AWSOME! GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2
Llast 326 An Arkhos 358	Posted - 2013.11.08 01:54:00 - [48] - Quote Your post needed a suitable response I am that Some Margin of Error
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 4062	Posted - 2013.11.08 02:00:00 - [49] - Quote as a minmatar logi who only wields the SMG am i lumped in with the other medium frames as an object of hate? does it help my case that i have sp into both scout suits and the amarr heavy suit? Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Llast 326 An Arkhos 359	Posted - 2013.11.08 02:13:00 - [50] - Quote gbghg wrote: as a minmatar logi who only wields the SMG am i lumped in with the other medium frames as an object of hate? does it help my case that i have sp into both scout suits and the amarr heavy suit? As the Bringer of Bacon i think you are exempt from all hatred I am that Some Margin of Error

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 366	Posted - 2013.11.08 08:15:00 - [51] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: One day, in the not so distant future, one of your squad mates will say "WTF was that?" And you will tell them "That was a scout suit, his name is Llast. Some say he is the only one left, that he named himself that because he is a prophet. Some say he does not exist at all, that he is a glitch in the roster and killfeed. Others believe that he a ghost story to scare little blueberries into squading up. They say he can see you without a scan message, but he won't show up on your TACNET. That guarding an objective alone is the only way you'll see him. That the brief flashing at C, before it turns colour is him. That when you come for him, he is gone. He is the reason the enemy is not stuck behind the redline, those mysterious uplinks that show up past the killzone are his. Those are the ones who don't remember, who have never seen the other parts of the skill tree. But I remember the scout, the gloriously low hit points, the speed, the funGÇª I used to be one." "I am scared, what if he comes for me?" Don't be scared little blueberryGÇª. it only takes one bullet to make him go away" You tell them that when you said to convert, that Llast said "No" Awesome man. Too bad CCP is not giving scouts a bone.. I would like to be one some day! +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 357	Posted - 2013.11.08 08:18:00 - [52] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! LMFAO...I've been thinking about it too marauder, the amarr assault and scr's seem to be nice, and I already have the scr to 5 opr and 3 prof. Not sure if i'm going to or not, but if you do, lemme know how it is ok. later bro... When your playing dust and your frustrated...if all else fails...turn off the ps3 works every time.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 368	Posted - 2013.11.08 09:05:00 - [53] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Llast 326 wrote: One day, in the not so distant future, one of your squad mates will say "WTF was that?" And you will tell them "That was a scout suit, his name is Llast. Some say he is the only one left, that he named himself that because he is a prophet. Some say he does not exist at all, that he is a glitch in the roster and killfeed. Others believe that he a ghost story to scare little blueberries into squading up. They say he can see you without a scan message, but he won't show up on your TACNET. That guarding an objective alone is the only way you'll see him. That the brief flashing at C, before it turns colour is him. That when you come for him, he is gone. He is the reason the enemy is not stuck behind the redline, those mysterious uplinks that show up past the killzone are his. Those are the ones who don't remember, who have never seen the other parts of the skill tree. But I remember the scout, the gloriously low hit points, the speed, the funGÇª I used to be one." "I am scared, what if he comes for me?" Don't be scared little blueberryGÇª. it only takes one bullet to make him go away" You tell them that when you said to convert, that Llast said "No" Awesome man. Too bad CCP is not giving scouts a bone.. I would like to be one some day! It's not the easiest style to play for sure but I have fun, and it is a crazy community of bastardly camaraderie. Do it I am that Some Margin of Error
GRIM GEAR Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 31	Posted - 2013.11.08 09:11:00 - [54] - Quote I think we may conclude in all seriousness that marauder never was a true scout in the first place
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 368	Posted - 2013.11.08 09:33:00 - [55] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Llast 326 wrote: One day, in the not so distant future, one of your squad mates will say "WTF was that?" And you will tell them "That was a scout suit, his name is Llast. Some say he is the only one left, that he named himself that because he is a prophet. Some say he does not exist at all, that he is a glitch in the roster and killfeed. Others believe that he a ghost story to scare little blueberries into squading up. They say he can see you without a scan message, but he won't show up on your TACNET. That guarding an objective alone is the only way you'll see him. That the brief flashing at C, before it turns colour is him. That when you come for him, he is gone. He is the reason the enemy is not stuck behind the redline, those mysterious uplinks that show up past the killzone are his. Those are the ones who don't remember, who have never seen the other parts of the skill tree. But I remember the scout, the gloriously low hit points, the speed, the funGÇª I used to be one." "I am scared, what if he comes for me?" Don't be scared little blueberryGÇª. it only takes one bullet to make him go away" You tell them that when you said to convert, that Llast said "No" Awesome man. Too bad CCP is not giving scouts a bone.. I would like to be one some day! It's not the easiest style to play for sure but I have fun, and it is a crazy community of bastardly camaraderie. Do it When CCP remake the dropsuit operation more like EVE ship operation, I might try out the caldari scout with rail pistol. Until then, assault it is. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
8213 Grade No.2 572	Posted - 2013.11.08 09:56:00 - [56] - Quote Eldest Dragon[/quote wrote: LMFAO...I've been thinking about it too marauder, the amarr assault and scr's seem to be nice, and I already have the scr to 5 opr and 3 prof. Not sure if i'm going to or not, but if you do, lemme know how it is ok. later bro... THAT'S WHY YOU WERE USING THE F*CKIN GEK-38 ALL NIGHT! I had a tear in my eye every time I saw the killfeed say Eldest Dragon [GEK-38 Assault Rifle] Orange Dot Scrub. I said to myself "That's that Dragon guy... I thought he was an SCR user... did he give in too?"
Laurent Cazaderon What The French 2070	Posted - 2013.11.08 10:47:00 - [57] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! Most heavies i have in WTFR do just fine since 1.6. xSanada runs an average of 25+ kills for 3 death. And there's room for enhancement but it's way better now. I know cause i'm getting scared again when i see one. But i'll agree with the rifle part. and the fact that scouts can just slice their wrists atm. This Char i only use on the forum. To contact me : "Cazaderon" in game and on Skype. Et vive la France !
AfroSunshineY Consequence TransLegio 172	Posted - 2013.11.08 15:47:00 - [58] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Here here! I say to you all, Convert brothers and sisters! For the scout and the heavy are not useful! For the almighty Rifles are what we all need! Coupled with God's greatest love that is the Medium Frames! Convert my Brothers and Sisters! For we shall finally be good once we do! For We shall finally see the light and live an EZ life after we do! For nothing is greater in righteousness than that of an Assault + Rifle in the Eyes of the Holy Developers! For nothing is greater than the Holy Developers' Greatest gift that is AA with his bride, Automatic No Recoil/Dispersion Rifles!!!!! They welcome us to convert with this week! And I say do SO! _________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah I'm skilling into amarr assault. I should have proto in 2 weeks I hope. The triple sp should get me to around lv3-4 :D Ez mode here I come! I have a thread on the same thing. AR is just too easy mode not to give it a go ( at least until the scout is fixed..........whenever that is .....SOON TM)
AfroSunshineY Consequence TransLegio 172	Posted - 2013.11.08 15:50:00 - [59] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: I converted from logi to scout and love it, you just got tired of running scout all the time. I got tired running logi and like the speed, avoiding scanners and having huge passive scans. I am confident you will soon fall back to your scout, when you start getting shot in the back because your scan range and precission is bad and you will not be able to hide behind a doorway as your scan profile is high, you will sincerely miss your scout. I also have a heavy with forge when I need to blow up some stuff, I love Dust and the variety. Assaults are boring There is nothing better than being in your skinny scout, watching the red dot move closer, knowing he is unaware of your presence. I need the surprise moment to win as he is a tanked assault, oh, the adrenaline and satisfaction when you get the kill in your skinny scout. How boring it is in my logi with stacked damage mods. You obviously haven't played scout long enough to become frustrated by the futility.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1532	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:00:00 - [60] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: You got a 250 health increase, what more do you wan't? Be a tank? Scouts are in a much worse state than heavies. Much worse. The 6m scan increase as a "buff" is insulting I would happily trade my 250 health increase for reduced dispersion on the HMG. My Heavy is Crash Gaden. Fox does Light and Medium frame suits. I made a new character recently running starter fit with Militia AR. I graduated from the Academy after 2 games, and then in my following 3 games in normal PUB matches my KDR actually went up. I was facing more Scouts and Heavies. I was doing better on a 500,000 skill point character with starter suit and Militia AR than I do on my 9,000,000 skill point Heavy.

Haerr Molon Labe PC RISE of LEGION 91	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:16:00 - [61] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Cat Merc wrote: You got a 250 health increase, what more do you wan't? Be a tank? Scouts are in a much worse state than heavies. Much worse. The 6m scan increase as a "buff" is insulting I would happily trade my 250 health increase for reduced dispersion on the HMG. My Heavy is Crash Gaden. Fox does Light and Medium frame suits. I made a new character recently running starter fit with Militia AR. I graduated from the Academy after 2 games, and then in my following 3 games in normal PUB matches my KDR actually went up. I was facing more Scouts and Heavies. I was doing better on a 500,000 skill point character with starter suit and Militia AR than I do on my 9,000,000 skill point Heavy. I've got a few medium frames and a couple of geks stashed away for when playing as a scout is just to frustrating. Since hit-dection was improved I'm back to running my trusty breach shotguns. I'm glad I can hit with them though most matches it's best not to bother with them. Many reasons why not to bother with them. Is the breach shotgun working as inteded?
Joel II X AHPA 96	Posted - 2013.11.08 18:18:00 - [62] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: One day, in the not so distant future, one of your squad mates will say "WTF was that?" And you will tell them "That was a scout suit, his name is Llast. Some say he is the only one left, that he named himself that because he is a prophet. Some say he does not exist at all, that he is a glitch in the roster and killfeed. Others believe that he a ghost story to scare little blueberries into squading up. They say he can see you without a scan message, but he won't show up on your TACNET. That guarding an objective alone is the only way you'll see him. That the brief flashing at C, before it turns colour is him. That when you come for him, he is gone. He is the reason the enemy is not stuck behind the redline, those mysterious uplinks that show up past the killzone are his. Those are the ones who don't remember, who have never seen the other parts of the skill tree. But I remember the scout, the gloriously low hit points, the speed, the funGÇª I used to be one." "I am scared, what if he comes for me?" Don't be scared little blueberryGÇª. it only takes one bullet to make him go away" You tell them that when you said to convert, that Llast said "No" Freaking beautiful.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4444	Posted - 2013.11.08 18:25:00 - [63] - Quote I approve this message. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"


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