I For the past 4 hours pretty much every single team I've been on has had no squads, no coordination and not a clue what is going on.

Turn those blue berries into green berries.
Magically, they'll start doing things right (Promise)

I'm not usually one for ranting and raving on the forums (or even posting most of the time), but where the **** is the teamwork in this game? For the past 4 hours pretty much every single team I've been on has had no squads, no coordination and not a clue what is going on.

People manning turrets and then just sitting there the whole game, LAVs driving circuits and not even attempting to attack/advance, tanks on the field and no one but me switching to AV to deal with them, blue dots chasing said tanks and peppering them with AR fire as they get gunned down from behind, no attempts to capture or defend letters, no logis on the field. Hell they weren't even zerging, at least that would of helped in some way.

I know these are issues that we have all experienced before but after so many hours of trying to win in teams of headless, mentally handicapped chickens and having to play assault, logi and AV to try and give the team at least a small chance, well it ***** me off big style.

Rant over, I feel better now.

Discuss and/or flame away.

Join a player run corp, should solve everything :)

I was in PHI, but seemed to go pretty dead, or maybe its just because I'm UK and they're mostly US. Recently came back from a break so will be joining a corp sooner or later. Still doesn't change the fact there's so little teamwork in a team-based game.

I'm not usually one for ranting and raving on the forums (or even posting most of the time), but where the **** is the teamwork in this game? For the past 4 hours pretty much every single team I've been on has had no squads, no coordination and not a clue what is going on.

People manning turrets and then just sitting there the whole game, LAVs driving circuits and not even attempting to attack/advance, tanks on the field and no one but me switching to AV to deal with them, blue dots chasing said tanks and peppering them with AR fire as they get gunned down from behind, no attempts to capture or defend letters, no logis on the field. Hell they weren't even zerging, at least that would of helped in some way.

I know these are issues that we have all experienced before but after so many hours of trying to win in teams of headless, mentally handicapped chickens and having to play assault, logi and AV to try and give the team at least a small chance, well it ***** me off big style.

Rant over, I feel better now.

Discuss and/or flame away.

I'm not usually one for ranting and raving on the forums (or even posting most of the time), but where the **** is the teamwork in this game? For the past 4 hours pretty much every single team I've been on has had no squads, no coordination and not a clue what is going on.

People manning turrets and then just sitting there the whole game, LAVs driving circuits and not even attempting to attack/advance, tanks on the field and no one but me switching to AV to deal with them, blue dots chasing said tanks and peppering them with AR fire as they get gunned down from behind, no attempts to capture or defend letters, no logis on the field. Hell they weren't even zerging, at least that would of helped in some way.

I know these are issues that we have all experienced before but after so many hours of trying to win in teams of headless, mentally handicapped chickens and having to play assault, logi and AV to try and give the team at least a small chance, well it ***** me off big style.

Rant over, I feel better now.

Discuss and/or flame away.

Get into a corp and squad up with them and you will see more teamwork

As I previously said, I was in a corp before but am returning from a break. I know there are solutions to the blueberry plague of disarray, but I just needed to vent after playing for the first time in two months. Even then, joining a corp doesn't guarentee teamwork, just squads.

The way matchmaking works, I imagine, causes a kind of dialectical experience/ teamwork disparity. Players who chose to not squad will likely only perform so well. Therefore they will probably end up being put on teams of other players performing at the same rate, who are also likely not squadding. Squads of corp-oriented team-working players probably make up a 'middle class' of players that will quickly bump out of this 'working class' zone of people due to them regularly dominating against chaotically unorganized swarms.

However, unless they decide to conspicuously consume their protogear to move into the uppder crust of tryhards, they will probably hover around in this middle zone regularly skirmishing against these similarly matched types.

Every now and then they may pop into the higher tiers of players, or low population times may mean that they get mixed in with proto-stomping bourgeois who aren't REALLY better, but are just paying for their victories.

You are probably stuck in the lower class because of your own choice to not squad with other players who you know are dedicated squaders. Use that social capital for upward mobility and leave your dirty, slimy, blue-collar-berries in the dust.

I'm not usually one for ranting and raving on the forums (or even posting most of the time), but where the **** is the teamwork in this game? For the past 4 hours pretty much every single team I've been on has had no squads, no coordination and not a clue what is going on.

People manning turrets and then just sitting there the whole game, LAVs driving circuits and not even attempting to attack/advance, tanks on the field and no one but me switching to AV to deal with them, blue dots chasing said tanks and peppering them with AR fire as they get gunned down from behind, no attempts to capture or defend letters, no logis on the field. Hell they weren't even zerging, at least that would of helped in some way.

I know these are issues that we have all experienced before but after so many hours of trying to win in teams of headless, mentally handicapped chickens and having to play assault, logi and AV to try and give the team at least a small chance, well it ***** me off big style.

Rant over, I feel better now.

Discuss and/or flame away.

Two words that will solve ur problem
SQUAD FINDER

Hello Rizlax!! And MANY of us feel you pain.

We're hoping the new 1.5 Patch gives Newberrys a REALLY realistic tutorial... and a REALISTIC thing for all to learn is how really much Eve Dust 514 IS a team-slanted game.

We're regularly requesting the Comms system be expanded, so you can MIC outside your squad to ANY sporadic merc who comes in proximity of you, or "instant message" to the non-hearing, or telegraph with simple flash-signs to address the foreign language issue.

Some of us wanted to VOLUNTEER as tutors, and run some kind of practice squads that function only in the Battle Academy phase, so when the Newberry steps into the Warbarge lobby, he gets to quick-join "the Dropship deployment practice class" or the "HAV driver/turret training squad", "the null-cannon take-n-hold squad", etc...

...But MONTHS later and it is still so hard for gamers to accept this "new concept" that Dust is (still not efficiently) promoting.
Seriously, MOST of us are now realizing that nothing in this game guarantees you survival or success (not proto gun, not triple-shields, not Lvl-5 skill).
Yet, still only SOME of us have realized that,

----if you kill a heavy with 12 pumps of your shotgun---you wipe your sweaty forehead that you survived, ...but

----WHEN YOU WERE PART OF A FOUR-MERC MOB that coincidentally converged on this heavy who was about to finish off a poor blue, and the four of you hosed his proto-suit to bits til he's a crispy fetal mound on the dirt---YOUR LAUGH-WITH-GLEE SATISFACTION METER CLIMBS 120%.
...And the four of you don't even need to know each other or commit to a clan if you're not into that. You only need to view the situations around you, and join in where it seems most logical to help out.

I just don't think the Dust "matchmaking" analyzes much beyond your WP or Kill Ratio standings, and can't figure out WHAT activity earned 'Deathcrier" his standings, or whether he feels like helping the players he gets matched with tonight but will decide to just play self-interest sniper from hilltops in tomorrow's match-ups. I just don't know.


North Americans do the "friendly, nightscene, just for a good time on the town, "hook up" with casual strangers we meet" thing so easily when we go to the clubs after work... but why does that seem so hard for folks to do when console gaming on a multiplayer arena? (Errr, I mean,..um)


Rizlax, the members like Beren may be right. You don't realize you've "graduated" to the higher plane of thinking, and you don't belong in haphazard Public Contracts any more. Unless you like beating yourself in the head over the aimless movements in those matches, you're going to have to reach out for a squad again, or enter Factional Warfare, in order to feel that your team-coop awareness can be put to some valueble use.
....After having played for 6 months, I think I have to leave the Public Contracts, and advance up that road too.

I'm not usually one for ranting and raving on the forums (or even posting most of the time), but where the **** is the teamwork in this game? For the past 4 hours pretty much every single team I've been on has had no squads, no coordination and not a clue what is going on.

People manning turrets and then just sitting there the whole game, LAVs driving circuits and not even attempting to attack/advance, tanks on the field and no one but me switching to AV to deal with them, blue dots chasing said tanks and peppering them with AR fire as they get gunned down from behind, no attempts to capture or defend letters, no logis on the field. Hell they weren't even zerging, at least that would of helped in some way.

I know these are issues that we have all experienced before but after so many hours of trying to win in teams of headless, mentally handicapped chickens and having to play assault, logi and AV to try and give the team at least a small chance, well it ***** me off big style.

Rant over, I feel better now.

Discuss and/or flame away.

As I previously said, I was in a corp before but am returning from a break. I know there are solutions to the blueberry plague of disarray, but I just needed to vent after playing for the first time in two months. Even then, joining a corp doesn't guarentee teamwork, just squads.

Sorry, I saw a starter corp with >10 likes and assumed that you were new w/o reading the rest of the thread.