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Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 315	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:34:00 - [1] - Quote It's so good that every bullet hits me! GG. I'm done playing this game until either the Damage is reduced and I don't die in under a second with 800+ EHP on my suit or ... Damage is reduced and I don't die in under a second with 800+ EHP on my suit. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
straya fox CybinSect 71	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:38:00 - [2] - Quote Does not every bullet of yours hit the enemy now? Are you not demolishing people in under a second? How come hit detection works for everyone else except you?
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 316	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:41:00 - [3] - Quote straya fox wrote: Does not every bullet of yours hit the enemy now? Are you not demolishing people in under a second? How come hit detection works for everyone else except you? Probably because I'm using a mass driver and not an AR or SCR. So I don't shoot bullets. And when I can't even get a second shot out of the tube before I'm dead, it really defeats the purpose. I may as well just throw my gun at them. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4965	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:42:00 - [4] - Quote If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
straya fox CybinSect 71	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:45:00 - [5] - Quote ok. I just thought the game is really smooth now. Been only running in dragonfly assault suit and toxin AR so all standard gear and not getting destroyed in the TTK department. Still enough time to react. but i don't use MD's so i can not really comment.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 316	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:45:00 - [6] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4965	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:47:00 - [7] - Quote You should also stick with a team. Those mass drivers are meant more for area denial. But if you want to use them as primaries, and you solo, you'll need a lot of practice. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 174	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:49:00 - [8] - Quote Must admit i'm enjoying the detection a lot better. my duvolle (prof 5 3 com DM's) actually kills people now and when i die after exhausting a whole clip i feel more liek i deserved to die instead of cursing the detection. one thing i have noticed though is the shotties are bloody lethal. i got 2 shotted from 20m away earleir
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1758	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:49:00 - [9] - Quote A think these unique situations require something more than just the common "use tactics" rebuttal.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 323	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:50:00 - [10] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: You should also stick with a team. Those mass drivers are meant more for area denial. But if you want to use them as primaries, and you solo, you'll need a lot of practice. Yeah. I'll rely on my full squad that I run with 100% of the time to do the work for me. What else you got bro? Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E

8213 Grade No.2 527	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:50:00 - [11] - Quote Yup, because ARs needed more help in the TTK Department... God forbid they have to shoot over 20 bullets and take more than 1 whole second to be lethal
Tectonic Fusion 481	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:50:00 - [12] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: You should also stick with a team. Those mass drivers are meant more for area denial. But if you want to use them as primaries, and you solo, you'll need a lot of practice. Meh. To the OP: Just be a campy noob that runs around corners and kills without looking at the enemy. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1758	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:50:00 - [13] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Must admit i'm enjoying the detection a lot better. my duvolle (prof 5 3 com DM's) actually kills people now and when i die after exhausting a whole clip i feel more liek i deserved to die instead of cursing the detection. one thing i have noticed though is the shotties are bloody lethal. i got 2 shotted from 20m away earleir LOL the Duvolle didn't commit uber murderation before?
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 323	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:51:00 - [14] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Must admit i'm enjoying the detection a lot better. my duvolle (prof 5 3 com DM's) actually kills people now and when i die after exhausting a whole clip i feel more liek i deserved to die instead of cursing the detection. one thing i have noticed though is the shotties are bloody lethal. i got 2 shotted from 20m away earleir LOL the Duvolle didn't commit uber murderation before? Was my sarcasm too obvious? Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4965	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:52:00 - [15] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? My advice: start practicing extensively. I use the nova knives as primaries and I use a super weak scout but I don't go around telling CCP to nerf a someone else's gun to survive. I had to train extensively to compensate. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
straya fox CybinSect 71	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:52:00 - [16] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? What i was getting at is my BPO suits run about 550 ehp, I get shot by AR's same as everyone else and unless in the back by a shorty, dieting in under a second does not really happen . edit- dieting, hmm...
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 323	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:54:00 - [17] - Quote It seems that most people think I'm complaining about not being good enough. Or not being skilled enough to play this game. OMG My weapon sucks now, make it stronger... Nope. I totally understand the mechanics behind running with a full squad. I totally get the point of using cover. I've been playing for 11 months now. I know how to play. I also know when something is wrong. I may suck at this game, but I know when I shouldn't suck this bad. I see a guy, shoot once. He turns and cuts me down in my full proto suit before I can get my second shot off. This happens 9/10 times. It happens from ranges that are absurd, 60-80m away. It's unbelievable. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 323	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:56:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? My advice: start practicing extensively. I use the nova knives as primaries and I use a super weak scout but I don't go around telling CCP to nerf a someone else's gun to survive. I had to train extensively to compensate. K bro. I'll just play more than I already do lol. That should do the trick. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1759	Posted - 2013.11.06 02:59:00 - [20] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: It seems that most people think I'm complaining about not being good enough. Or not being skilled enough to play this game. OMG My weapon sucks now, make it stronger... Nope. I totally understand the mechanics behind running with a full squad. I totally get the point of using cover. I've been playing for 11 months now. I know how to play. I also know when something is wrong. I may suck at this game, but I know when I shouldn't suck this bad. I see a guy, shoot once. He turns and cuts me down in my full proto suit before I can get my second shot off. This happens 9/10 times. It happens from ranges that are absurd, 60-80m away. It's unbelievable. LOL like I said... Michael Arck wrote: A think these unique situations require something more than just the common "use tactics" rebuttal. I can vouch for Cenex. Cenex is a decent player. There is something amiss. Deaths were great in numbers if you just monitored the killboards for every player. I was getting shot up as if the projectiles had no respect for all my hard work to get my shield and armor up. It was just ridiculous to the point where I knew I had to get the drop first and maintain my aim. Any deviation or pause in gunfire resulted in death for my clone.

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4967	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:00:00 - [21] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: It seems that most people think I'm complaining about not being good enough. Or not being skilled enough to play this game. OMG My weapon sucks now, make it stronger... Nope. I totally understand the mechanics behind running with a full squad. I totally get the point of using cover. I've been playing for 11 months now. I know how to play. I also know when something is wrong. I may suck at this game, but I know when I shouldn't suck this bad. I see a guy, shoot once. He turns and cuts me down in my full proto suit before I can get my second shot off. This happens 9/10 times. It happens from ranges that are absurd, 60-80m away. It's unbelievable. Don't your mass driver shots reach further than that? 60-80 sounds like something a mass driver can out reach. You can also shoot over hills with them if you throw in an active scanner. Especially the kind of scanner that has a long blip duration. As a logi in general you should use that scanner easily to your advantage. Beyond that, there is nothing else I can advise you on except just keep practicing. I have been practicing using nova knives (just the knives) for far longer than a year and my training is still not over yet. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1873	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:01:00 - [22] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? My advice: start practicing extensively. I use the nova knives as primaries and I use a super weak scout but I don't go around telling CCP to nerf a someone else's gun to survive. I had to train extensively to compensate. K bro. I'll just play more than I already do lol. That should do the trick. Maken has a habit of talking to people like he just convinced them to stop licking a window. You'll have to forgive him.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 323	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:02:00 - [23] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? My advice: start practicing extensively. I use the nova knives as primaries and I use a super weak scout but I don't go around telling CCP to nerf a someone else's gun to survive. I had to train extensively to compensate. K bro. I'll just play more than I already do lol. That should do the trick. Maken has a habit of talking to people like he just convinced them to stop licking a window. You'll have to forgive him. Hah, it's almost as if he doesn't even read what you say past the words on the page! Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1873	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:03:00 - [24] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: It seems that most people think I'm complaining about not being good enough. Or not being skilled enough to play this game. OMG My weapon sucks now, make it stronger... Nope. I totally understand the mechanics behind running with a full squad. I totally get the point of using cover. I've been playing for 11 months now. I know how to play. I also know when something is wrong. I may suck at this game, but I know when I shouldn't suck this bad. I see a guy, shoot once. He turns and cuts me down in my full proto suit before I can get my second shot off. This happens 9/10 times. It happens from ranges that are absurd, 60-80m away. It's unbelievable. Don't your mass driver shots reach further than that? 60-80 sounds like something a mass driver can out reach. You can also shoot over hills with them if you throw in an active scanner. Especially the kind of scanner that has a long blip duration. As a logi in general you should use that scanner easily to your advantage. Beyond that, there is nothing else I can advise you on except just keep practicing. I have been practicing using nova knives (just the knives) for far longer than a year and my training is still not over yet. Cenex is a good player who is pissed on patch day. Just let him vent. Yo Cenex, Amarr logi - Assault MD - SMG = beast mode
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 323	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:04:00 - [25] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: It seems that most people think I'm complaining about not being good enough. Or not being skilled enough to play this game. OMG My weapon sucks now, make it stronger... Nope. I totally understand the mechanics behind running with a full squad. I totally get the point of using cover. I've been playing for 11 months now. I know how to play. I also know when something is wrong. I may suck at this game, but I know when I shouldn't suck this bad. I see a guy, shoot once. He turns and cuts me down in my full proto suit before I can get my second shot off. This happens 9/10 times. It happens from ranges that are absurd, 60-80m away. It's unbelievable. Don't your mass driver shots reach further than that? 60-80 sounds like something a mass driver can out reach. You can also shoot over hills with them if you throw in an active scanner. Especially the kind of scanner that has a long blip duration. As a logi in general you should use that scanner easily to your advantage. Beyond that, there is nothing else I can advise you on except just keep practicing. I have been practicing using nova knives (just the knives) for far longer than a year and my training is still not over yet. Cenex is a good player who is pissed on patch day. Just let him vent. Yo Cenex, Amarr logi - Assault MD - SMG = beast mode Thanks, You put a smile on my face haha. I'm venting, but I won't be playing much if this continues. And I refuse to play as an Amarr! I hated them for 10 years in EVE and I will continue to hate that race as long as I play DUST!!! Minmatar and Gallente all the way! Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4967	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:05:00 - [26] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? My advice: start practicing extensively. I use the nova knives as primaries and I use a super weak scout but I don't go around telling CCP to nerf a someone else's gun to survive. I had to train extensively to compensate. K bro. I'll just play more than I already do lol. That should do the trick. Maken has a habit of talking to people like he just convinced them to stop licking a window. You'll have to forgive him. I hate it when people lick my windows. I came on tho... I mean clean them you know. CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1380	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:08:00 - [27] - Quote I could agree to the 10% Damage Buff removed, but other then that I like where DUST sits right now. Gimme some gear and I'll be happy. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1873	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:08:00 - [28] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: It seems that most people think I'm complaining about not being good enough. Or not being skilled enough to play this game. OMG My weapon sucks now, make it stronger... Nope. I totally understand the mechanics behind running with a full squad. I totally get the point of using cover. I've been playing for 11 months now. I know how to play. I also know when something is wrong. I may suck at this game, but I know when I shouldn't suck this bad. I see a guy, shoot once. He turns and cuts me down in my full proto suit before I can get my second shot off. This happens 9/10 times. It happens from ranges that are absurd, 60-80m away. It's unbelievable. Don't your mass driver shots reach further than that? 60-80 sounds like something a mass driver can out reach. You can also shoot over hills with them if you throw in an active scanner. Especially the kind of scanner that has a long blip duration. As a logi in general you should use that scanner easily to your advantage. Beyond that, there is nothing else I can advise you on except just keep practicing. I have been practicing using nova knives (just the knives) for far longer than a year and my training is still not over yet. Cenex is a good player who is pissed on patch day. Just let him vent. Yo Cenex, Amarr logi - Assault MD - SMG = beast mode Thanks, You put a smile on my face haha. I'm venting, but I won't be playing much if this continues. And I refuse to play as an Amarr! I hated them for 10 years in EVE and I will continue to hate that race as long as I play DUST!!! Minmatar and Gallente all the way! I hate Amarr too, but killing them with their own gear just seems so nice!
Protocake JR Spyders Inc. 905	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:09:00 - [29] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? You are not supposed to be able to compete against slayers with a Mass Driver. You are supposed to farm Assist WP and Equipment WP.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 325	Posted - 2013.11.06 03:20:00 - [30] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: If every bullet can hit you, then every bullet can hit them. Use that to your advantage rather than asking for a nerf to someone else's weapon. Edit: oh you use a mass driver? Then fit an smg or scrambler pistol as a sidearm. Oh, I can't use a sidearm because I'm not an amarr logi. What's your next bit of advice? edit: So do I have to just use another weapon now because my main is not capable of competing with the AR and SCR? You are not supposed to be able to compete against slayers with a Mass Driver. You are supposed to farm Assist WP and Equipment WP. Am I supposed to continue getting owned too? I mean, I die quite gracefully so it's not at all that bad. I'll just stand in front of bullets and play my mandolin while "Slayers" dance around be. That's what I'm supposed to do right? Screw bringing a gun into the battle. I'll carve a **** whistle and run around blowing it! Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E



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