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ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Please don't talk about IGN while attempting to make a valid point.
The argument essentially boils down to "I have an opinion, but it's not a very strong one so here is somebody elses".
On top of that I've worked for IGN in the past and I will tell you from first hand experience they believe wholeheartedly that it is their job to advertise the games they get early review copies of. They only give a bad score to publishers they either receive minimal compensation from, or a game that is so bad that it invokes a visceral reaction from the reviewer.
In the case of Dust, they aren't particularly worried about any blowback from CCP. Pissing off EA is an entirely different ballgame. Pissing off EA is one of CCP's favorite past times. http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/03/ea_pulls_plug_o.htmlhttp://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/press-releases/earth-and-beyond-users-offered-an-upgrade-to-eve-online-1/
Doesn't explain why CCP hired Jean-Charles Gaudechon who was an EA scumbag prior to moving to CCP... |
Quidam Brujah
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:29:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Please don't talk about IGN while attempting to make a valid point.
The argument essentially boils down to "I have an opinion, but it's not a very strong one so here is somebody elses".
On top of that I've worked for IGN in the past and I will tell you from first hand experience they believe wholeheartedly that it is their job to advertise the games they get early review copies of. They only give a bad score to publishers they either receive minimal compensation from, or a game that is so bad that it invokes a visceral reaction from the reviewer.
In the case of Dust, they aren't particularly worried about any blowback from CCP. Pissing off EA is an entirely different ballgame.
No, the argument essentially boils down to "a crappy non-review of BF4 doesn't mean that Dust is actually better."
I was trying to give an apples-to-apples comparison. I'm sure they are biased. Did you actually take the time to look at the two videos? Did you really listen to the critiques? Your reply is to essentially shoot the messenger. I'd rather read some insightful response actually addressing the criticisms if you care to do that. |
ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:44:00 -
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You can't spell ignorance without IGN...
That said, its not like IGN was the only review website to give Dust a big fat flop. Just about EVERY review website and notable YouTube personalities agree that Dust doesn't live up to its potential. Battlefield on the other hand just released and with a game where millions are playing it you can expect some hiccups. Dust was given the same free pass for how long? They still having problems too boot... every single patch. |
Quidam Brujah
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:50:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Please don't talk about IGN while attempting to make a valid point.
The argument essentially boils down to "I have an opinion, but it's not a very strong one so here is somebody elses".
On top of that I've worked for IGN in the past and I will tell you from first hand experience they believe wholeheartedly that it is their job to advertise the games they get early review copies of. They only give a bad score to publishers they either receive minimal compensation from, or a game that is so bad that it invokes a visceral reaction from the reviewer.
In the case of Dust, they aren't particularly worried about any blowback from CCP. Pissing off EA is an entirely different ballgame. Pissing off EA is one of CCP's favorite past times. http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/03/ea_pulls_plug_o.htmlhttp://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/press-releases/earth-and-beyond-users-offered-an-upgrade-to-eve-online-1/ Doesn't explain why CCP hired Jean-Charles Gaudechon who was an EA scumbag prior to moving to CCP...
I think Himiko was writing that IGN doesn't mind pissing off CCP but they are worried about pissing off EA.
But, the central tenet to his(?) argument is that I shouldn't reference IGN because they are not credible due to how they favor EA. There may be some bias towards EA on IGN's part however, that's like saying ZDNet only gives Apple products good reviews because they're 'in the tank' for them when it might actually be that they have good, reliable products that people want to buy. I mean, have you looked at EA's game lineup? It's not like they have many dogs in there, they tend to play it safe. It's not like they're putting out a bunch of 'Fast & Furious: Showdown' or 'Aliens: Colonial Marines' titles. |
8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:01:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:CoD sells because it makes itself accessible to people with a 50 IQ.
It may mean that it brings in a lot of money, but it's nothing to be proud of.
The reason CoD is so successful is because at one point it wrote the blueprint for online FPS. Games like DUST still copy it.
Players bought into CoD because they got behind why the game was being made. CoD is still on top because it's still fun to play, its action based; it stimulates. It lags... what game doesn't? DUST is a worse game when listing broken mechanics. The content of CoD may be lacking but you have to keep the game CoD themed.
CoD has been around for a decade. Do you think DUST will be around 10 years from now, or have any innovation left in it(it doesn't have any of that now until EVE links up)?
Since DUST started people have been saying " at least its better than CoD" but still fail to realize on is own merit, DUST is always going to be garbage as well. Top players aren't stupid, if DUST was any good, more than 5,000 people would be playing it worldwide on a daily basis... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:30:00 -
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CoD also destroyed old boring WW2 shooters in the same way Saving Private Ryan did for WW2 movies.
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Omni-Soldier Specialist
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Palatinate
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.18 04:46:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:okay i watched the video and all i can say is even at Dust's worth it has never been that bad and i have seen dust bad lol. omg i really hope dust is better than what i just saw. i don't think any game out there right now is worst than that. night guys i may come back and start owning you all again very soon. :P
Ill be waiting for you nik, I still haven't got you back from shotgunning me in the back during Chromosone.
Stupid people will never change, you can try but that's just stupid. - Palatinate
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.12.18 04:51:00 -
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"only affects multiplayerrrrrrr....arrrrrgh!"
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.12.20 08:29:00 -
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Well just read an article that EA is suing itself for putting out craptacular games, and because of that lawsuit mirrors edge and star wars battlefront may be facing cancellation.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.12.20 09:37:00 -
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New weapons are great, faction warfare is broken (everyone who want no limits just backvagoning galente), rubberband is big time. Tank spawning, nerf to AV etc. Overall it fun for few games, bt its still flat same story.
If its worth.
nope
actually i thing i leave, its still bigger fun to play starhawk, BF or still few days of MAG than this flatfull mediocresness.
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