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NIKIA BETHUNE
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:35:00 -
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not a troll please no troll answers.
i really want to know i read some of the changes they seem nice. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:39:00 -
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Maybe ask again in a month. If you left in the last 2-3 months.
Right now apparently we're better than Battlefield 4.
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Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:39:00 -
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PC is still a slide show. Pubs run ok.
Aim assist is overpowered. |
NIKIA BETHUNE
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:40:00 -
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dust is better than battlefield 0.0
that's good news i might log back in and check it out |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:42:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:dust is better than battlefield 0.0
that's good news i might log back in and check it out
Watch this to see why. Remember the following video from a launched product.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXUERB2fxN4&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL4Sz7_l-PtwAG8xye4Y9whykc4OAwbN9f
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:43:00 -
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Its decent in my opinion, and worth playing. If I were you, I'd wait 2 or more months to come back; really big changes and additions are on their way.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads Gû¦Gû+
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:46:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PC is still a slide show. Pubs run ok.
Aim assist is overpowered.
How come I never have issues with PC... I suck but I never rubberband in PC...
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Maybe ask again in a month. If you left in the last 2-3 months.
So, SoonGäó? 
Dust 514 is Dust 514. I like it enough. If you want to see whether or not you'll like it, why not hop on and see?
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:51:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Maybe ask again in a month. If you left in the last 2-3 months. So, SoonGäó? Dust 514 is Dust 514. I like it enough. If you want to see whether or not you'll like it, why not hop on and see?
Well nothing wrong with before and after take in. So yeah if you dive back in now to see what its like go right ahead.
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Badonk Adonk
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:54:00 -
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Lol of course it isn't |
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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2013.11.05 05:56:00 -
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Atleast this isn't CoD guys..we still have some potential
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NIKIA BETHUNE
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:07:00 -
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okay i watched the video and all i can say is even at Dust's worth it has never been that bad and i have seen dust bad lol. omg i really hope dust is better than what i just saw. i don't think any game out there right now is worst than that.
night guys i may come back and start owning you all again very soon. :P |
Badonk Adonk
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:07:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Atleast this isn't CoD guys..we still have some potential
The only reason this game has sooooo much potential is because...... wait for it.......it's a **** game. "Dust has potential" nastiest insult ever. |
Himiko Kuronaga
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:10:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PC is still a slide show. Pubs run ok.
Aim assist is overpowered. How come I never have issues with PC... I suck but I never rubberband in PC...
Rubberbanding isn't an issue for most people. You are probably using that term improperly. That's rare and has more to do with ISP issues.
Frame rate is what makes it a slideshow, and there are a lot of factors that go into it.
Amount of equipment on the field contributes largely. If you play bad opponents, there won't be as much.
Also depends how close to the action you are, which city map you are in, if you're in the city itself, and whether or not you are in a vehicle. |
David Spd
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:10:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Atleast this isn't CoD guys..we still have some potential
Despite comments like this CoD sells MILLIONS of copies EVERY YEAR. CCP wishes they had a comparable argument in terms of player interest.
CoD may not be big on innovation but they have a solid foundation that keeps their players coming back every year @ $60 pricetag, and multiple $15 map packs.
CCP is pushing most of their vets away and make it very hard for new peopele to have a good time. Video games are supposed to be fun primarily, I have yet to see a newbie say "I had a blast" with their Dust experience.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: potential doesn't make a game good and being free doesn't excuse a game from being bad.
To the OP; don't bother with Dust right now. Take IWS' advice and wait a couple more months when all the stuff that is currently in limbo FINALLY gets the attntion it needs.
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Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:14:00 -
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CoD sells because it makes itself accessible to people with a 50 IQ.
It may mean that it brings in a lot of money, but it's nothing to be proud of. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:19:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:okay i watched the video and all i can say is even at Dust's worth it has never been that bad and i have seen dust bad lol. omg i really hope dust is better than what i just saw. i don't think any game out there right now is worst than that. night guys i may come back and start owning you all again very soon. :P
The closest dust has gotten to this is people popping out of existence because your gun range isn't that far...
Oh and people falling through holes in the floor but that's been fixed.
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Frame rate is what makes it a slideshow, and there are a lot of factors that go into it.
I have had games where I was getting less than 2 frames per second after about 5 minutes in game.
I have had entire opposing teams quit in PC matches because of frame rate issues.
So yes, it can be very bad.
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:29:00 -
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David Spd wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Atleast this isn't CoD guys..we still have some potential Despite comments like this CoD sells MILLIONS of copies EVERY YEAR. CCP wishes they had a comparable argument in terms of player interest. CoD may not be big on innovation but they have a solid foundation that keeps their players coming back every year @ $60 pricetag, and multiple $15 map packs. CCP is pushing most of their vets away and make it very hard for new peopele to have a good time. Video games are supposed to be fun primarily, I have yet to see a newbie say "I had a blast" with their Dust experience. I've said it before and I'll say it again: potential doesn't make a game good and being free doesn't excuse a game from being bad. To the OP; don't bother with Dust right now. Take IWS' advice and wait a couple more months when all the stuff that is currently in limbo FINALLY gets the attntion it needs.
I and I think everyone else here would not want 75% of the cod player base (specifically those players) considering these tweets
Warning extreme language and extreme hatred
http://gamerfury.tumblr.com/
Is a clear and cut example why we don't need to be picking up most of the CoD players.
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VAHZZ
Villore Sec Ops
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:30:00 -
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David Spd wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Atleast this isn't CoD guys..we still have some potential Despite comments like this CoD sells MILLIONS of copies EVERY YEAR. CCP wishes they had a comparable argument in terms of player interest.
CoD may not be big on innovation but they have a solid foundation that keeps their players coming back every year @ $60 pricetag, and multiple $15 map packs. .
Despite CoD selling MILLIONS of copies...most of it's players are little 7 year olds who get away with everything and shouldn't even be playing games like that.
Cod is not big on innovation period. CoD is the same thing every year, they are masters though...master of copy and paste repetition.
When i said DUST had potential..i meant that it is a great game even though it has it's flaws. It is a game that may look dusty and weak but is alot better than the likes of CoD with their "realism" and "new stuff"
I don't insult games, unless they deserve being insulted.
> Master of the Sniper and rookie NKer
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:33:00 -
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I won't quote the various people that have said it, but I don't want CoD players in Dust 514. Not to sound harsh, but we have enough troubles sorting out the newbloods as it is. We don't need dead weight on top of that.
I go commando in my Commando. Feels good, man.
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David Spd
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:David Spd wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Atleast this isn't CoD guys..we still have some potential Despite comments like this CoD sells MILLIONS of copies EVERY YEAR. CCP wishes they had a comparable argument in terms of player interest. CoD may not be big on innovation but they have a solid foundation that keeps their players coming back every year @ $60 pricetag, and multiple $15 map packs. CCP is pushing most of their vets away and make it very hard for new peopele to have a good time. Video games are supposed to be fun primarily, I have yet to see a newbie say "I had a blast" with their Dust experience. I've said it before and I'll say it again: potential doesn't make a game good and being free doesn't excuse a game from being bad. To the OP; don't bother with Dust right now. Take IWS' advice and wait a couple more months when all the stuff that is currently in limbo FINALLY gets the attntion it needs. I and I think everyone else here would not want 75% of the cod player base (specifically those players) considering these tweets Warning extreme language and extreme hatred http://gamerfury.tumblr.com/Is a clear and cut example why we don't need to be picking up most of the CoD players.
I'm not saying we need CoD players, nor am I saying people like that are woth having. What I AM saying is consistent players putting money into a game guarantees that if someone were to buy the game there would be countless hours of content to be had because of the sheer size of the playerbase. You may also notice that there is notext chat in CoD and it is VERY easy to mutemics in every game.
I'm sure you also know IWS that there are a noteworthy number of horrible people playing Dust as well. The vocal minority make the rest of hthe playerbase look bad.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:57:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PC is still a slide show. Pubs run ok.
Aim assist is overpowered. How come I never have issues with PC... I suck but I never rubberband in PC... Rubberbanding isn't an issue for most people. You are probably using that term improperly. That's rare and has more to do with ISP issues. Frame rate is what makes it a slideshow, and there are a lot of factors that go into it. Amount of equipment on the field contributes largely. If you play bad opponents, there won't be as much. Also depends how close to the action you are, which city map you are in, if you're in the city itself, and whether or not you are in a vehicle.
Okay Thanks that clears some stuff up...
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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2013.11.05 06:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Maybe ask again in a month. If you left in the last 2-3 months.
Right now apparently we're better than Battlefield 4.
BF3 vet here.
Played BF4. Can confirm.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 07:14:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:not a troll please no troll answers.
i really want to know i read some of the changes they seem nice.
Come back in 1.7 I'd say.
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Minmatar and Gallente fw.
Fix PC lag please CCP.
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nate09
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.05 07:51:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Maybe ask again in a month. If you left in the last 2-3 months.
Right now apparently we're better than Battlefield 4.
Hmmm?
Dust better than bf4?
I needed a good laugh. |
Quidam Brujah
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.11.05 08:13:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Maybe ask again in a month. If you left in the last 2-3 months.
Right now apparently we're better than Battlefield 4. BF3 vet here. Played BF4. Can confirm.
BFBC2 & BF3 vet here.
In my opinion, here's what Dust has over BF4: skill trees.
And that's it.
BF4 isn't trying to be a long-term, ever evolving, MMORPG. BF4 has amazing visuals and graphics. Dust gameplay looks and feels like a 3-year old FPS. BF3 has better playability than Dust. Why do I say that? If one of the benefits of Dust is supposed to be the ever evolving and improving game, why are fewer and fewer people playing it? It's not a coincidence that you keep running into the same people grinding away. Look here: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Now compare that to here: http://bf3stats.com/servers/all
For BF3 to be a 'less epic' game that is now 2-years old, it's still getting over 10,000 players in the wee hours of the morning in the States. And while I may not have the business savvy that CCP does, I'm not sure how a shrinking active player base is a sustainable business model in a platform environment. Seems more like a boat anchor around the neck of the EVE-side of the house.
As for the above posted BF4 review, while the screechy voiceover was enough to make me stop watching, I turned down the volume and continued. The 'selective editing' really didn't do justice and to call it a 'review' is laughable. If you want a better review wherein you can at least use the same set of standards (the 'nerd' guy doesn't 'review' Dust, but it would be interesting to see him do it, I suppose) compare these two reviews:
IGN review of Dust: http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/05/29/dust-514-video-review
IGN review of BF4: http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/29/battlefield-4-review-pc-360-ps3
I think the reviews are pretty spot-on and I would also give Dust about a 5 and BF4 (based on the beta) an 8.
So, say what you will about BF4 but, my experience with the beta was largely positive. I think it far more likely that both the release of the PS3 version of BF4 and the PS4 version of BF4 are going to peel off a measurable amount of Dust players than any evolutionary (rather than revolutionary) improvements in the game or other 'welcome back' gimmicks that CCP might offer will have.
My proof? Look at the eve-offline stats for the last week. Immediate drop after BF4 release. True, a minor bump up over the weekend. But continue to watch those stats and I think we'll see a continued drop. And watch those numbers in the next 10-12 days and see what happens with the PS4 release.
So, if you really want to see Dust improve and not be abandoned, everyone here better start telling everyone else how awesome Dust is so those numbers start climbing or there may not be a Dust to 'come back to' in 3-6 months. At least, not if you don't like getting proto-stomped in pub matches because that's all that will be left playing of the thousand or so players. |
Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:03:00 -
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Please don't talk about IGN while attempting to make a valid point.
The argument essentially boils down to "I have an opinion, but it's not a very strong one so here is somebody elses".
On top of that I've worked for IGN in the past and I will tell you from first hand experience they believe wholeheartedly that it is their job to advertise the games they get early review copies of. They only give a bad score to publishers they either receive minimal compensation from, or a game that is so bad that it invokes a visceral reaction from the reviewer.
In the case of Dust, they aren't particularly worried about any blowback from CCP. Pissing off EA is an entirely different ballgame. |
fawkuima juggalo
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:06:00 -
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NIKIA BETHUNE wrote:not a troll please no troll answers.
i really want to know i read some of the changes they seem nice.
fawk yea it is.... quit sleeping
FIGHT FOR A CAUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TO YOU.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:25:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Please don't talk about IGN while attempting to make a valid point.
The argument essentially boils down to "I have an opinion, but it's not a very strong one so here is somebody elses".
On top of that I've worked for IGN in the past and I will tell you from first hand experience they believe wholeheartedly that it is their job to advertise the games they get early review copies of. They only give a bad score to publishers they either receive minimal compensation from, or a game that is so bad that it invokes a visceral reaction from the reviewer.
In the case of Dust, they aren't particularly worried about any blowback from CCP. Pissing off EA is an entirely different ballgame.
Pissing off EA is one of CCP's favorite past times.
http://alphavilleherald.com/2004/03/ea_pulls_plug_o.html
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/press-releases/earth-and-beyond-users-offered-an-upgrade-to-eve-online-1/
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