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Posted - 2013.11.03 21:48:00 -
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To be honest I'm not even sure I agree with this idea, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway:-
Logi suits get a 50% penalty to war points gained for kills, and a 50% bonus to WP gained for most other activities.
In other words, there's nothing stopping you being a slayer in a logi suit, you just won't be rewarded as much for it.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 21:56:00 -
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Atiim wrote:So basically your saying FU Amarr logistics for being combat oriented
And your saying FU logis for hurting the enemy, only ASSaults should be getting kills, GTF in the back of crowd.
Yeah that's right logi, you should do nothing but rep me and keep my K/D high.
When your ready to asking people to stroke your e-peen, then make a post about logistics
Nope, I'm asking people to discuss the idea that logistics should be rewarded more for support than for slaying.
Also, if this is done as a suit penalty then there's no reason why Amarr logic couldn't be -20% for kills and +20% for support, for example.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 22:16:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Well you are the first to be diplomatic in response to my post, so I'll be serous here
1.) The Amarr Logistics is designed to be exactly like assaults, but with the medic abilities of a logistics
2.) Logistics aren't medics. They are hybrids. Meaning they are designed to fulfill the roles of both ground soldiers and field medics.
3.) Balance is balance, as such if you are going to reduce kill points for logis, then give a 50% penalty when all other roles do things meant for logistics (Revving, Repairing, Resupplying, and Team Spawning)
How about you just simply give a 25% bonus to logis when they do "logi things" (RRRT). That way, you will reward logis for doing their job, and encourage logis to RRTS. If you do it this way, then people with logis will actually RRRT. If you penalize people then they will move on to another role.
Sadly this is due to FoTM players
1) that can't be right; Amarr logi can't just be Amarr assault with extra goodies; there has to be a downside for it to be balanced
2) nowhere did I say this was just about medics; it is support in general that I'm referring to, including scanning, uplinks, hives, explosives
3) 50% penalty for other suits doing support is no different to 50% bonus for logi for doing support really
I actually suggested a 50% (not 25%) bonus for logis for doing "logi things" in the OP. Rewarding logis for doing support stuff is an essential part of this.
However, people who play slayer logi because they find it easier than slayer assault won't care about that bonus, they'll still do their slayer logi thing. That's why I want to discuss a rewards penalty for this play style.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 22:23:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:R F Gyro wrote:Nope, I'm asking people to discuss the idea that logistics should be rewarded more for support than for slaying. No. I categorically reject the principal upon which this idea is based.
OK, noted.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 22:32:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Maybe the opposite should be done for Assaults as well? +20% WP for Kills, -20% WP for equipment/support. That raises a question though; Are assists support?
I have no objection in principle to that, or to WP bonuses/penalties to all suit types. If I had to decide I'd lump "assists" in with "kills" rather than "support", primarily because people rarely attempt to get an assist - its more likely a failed kill.
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