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Cross Ragweed
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:39:00 -
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So one starts playing Dust-514, first thing they do is ... "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" and pick a race. After they stick around awhile and gather say 12mill lifetime SP, and FW is about to change radically to be LP and race centric, Will CCP change my mercencary's race for me? |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
327
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:40:00 -
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Help ticket?
Assassination is my thing.
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Eldest Dragon
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
276
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:44:00 -
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I'm tired of gallente I hate this pic, I been playing on this acc too long to start another, I put this request in feedback/request section several times to no avail. CCP dosn't seem to care obviously. It's a shame. |
Cross Ragweed
The Neutral Zone
12
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:44:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Help ticket?
Yea, I was wondering if anyone has tried this before. |
Cross Ragweed
The Neutral Zone
12
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:46:00 -
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Eldest Dragon wrote:I'm tired of gallente I hate this pic, I been playing on this acc too long to start another, I put this request in feedback/request section several times to no avail. CCP dosn't seem to care obviously. It's a shame.
The new FW LP scheme would hopefully change CCP's stance on this. They need to at least let us change our avatars here to whatever we please
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1000
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:48:00 -
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Race has nothing to do with which Militia you join. Amarr could join Minmatar Militia if they so chose.
Race only affects your [STARTER FIT]s
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives....
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2540
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:58:00 -
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lol as if race actually meant something.
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1372
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:04:00 -
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No. EVE-style face changer? Yea, sure. Race change? No.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Humble Seeker
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
38
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:25:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:No. EVE-style face changer? Yea, sure. Race change? No.
Now we just need to have unique faces. But we're probably light years away from that. Hell, light years away from all equipment.
"Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens."
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Jacques Cayton II
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:28:00 -
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Welk if you like shields and are caldari race with caldari suits yiu get their racial bonus. If your caldari and you like any other races suit you dont get their racial bonus. Thats why race matters. Glory to the state |
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
197
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:56:00 -
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I just dropped a support ticket asking to change my racial option. I'll let you know what they come back with.
My guess is that they will say sorry but no. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
197
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:23:00 -
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Response from support ticket.
Hi,
Unfortunately we are unable to perform such action at this very moment. If you would like this feature in DUST 514 we would encourage you to post your feedback and ideas on the DUST 514 forums for further discussion. Members of the Dev team really do constantly monitor the forums to get feedback from players, and you may find discussing your idea with other players can help improve it as well. Here again is a link to the Feedback/Requests forum section:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=730 We have many examples of suggestions there making it into the game, so we'd again encourage you to use this channel, as it is both the correct one, and the most effective too.
Alternatively, you can bring the matter up before the CPM in the The CouncilGÇÖs Chamber section of the DUST 514 forums:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=1334 If you have any other questions or problems, please let me know and I'll be happy to assist you further.
Warm regards, GM Unicorn CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514 |
Jacques Cayton II
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:31:00 -
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Yay ccp doesn't care |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1994
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:50:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:So one starts playing Dust-514, first thing they do is ... "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" and pick a race. After they stick around awhile and gather say 12mill lifetime SP, and FW is about to change radically to be LP and race centric, Will CCP change my mercencary's race for me? Race really doesnt matter even with FW. any race character can support any race. Even if they couldnt, CCP would never allow a character to switch race.
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:57:00 -
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We need an option to change our race when 1.6 drops, it's only fair seeing as we will be limited to what factional weapons/equipment we can access based on our starting race, and the only other way to access other racial gear will be through the P2P market, but we still dont have an ETA on that yet either.
I can has ISK
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
566
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:58:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Welk if you like shields and are caldari race with caldari suits yiu get their racial bonus. If your caldari and you like any other races suit you dont get their racial bonus. Thats why race matters. Glory to the state Racial bonuses are applied to anyone who wears that races dropsuit ... it REALLY doesn't make one bit of a difference what race you selected when you created your character ... it makes NO difference to anything in the game.
While we're on the subject ... aparently (before I started Eve 5 years ago) your race DID make a difference to things like bonuses on ships, but CCP soon realised after a backlash from the community that this was a bad idea ... we all know how balance can easily sway from one thing to another after even minor changes and living with something OP for 6 months (Eve's build cycle) that only a particular race could use was deemed unfair. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1994
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:58:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:We need an option to change our race when 1.6 drops, it's only fair seeing as we will be limited to what factional weapons/equipment we can access based on our starting race, and the only other way to access other racial gear will be through the P2P market, but we still dont have an ETA on that yet either. read my post sweetie.
Race doesnt matter.
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
566
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:59:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:We need an option to change our race when 1.6 drops, it's only fair seeing as we will be limited to what factional weapons/equipment we can access based on our starting race, and the only other way to access other racial gear will be through the P2P market, but we still dont have an ETA on that yet either. You won't be limited to anything ... there's nothing to stop you fighting for the faction you support, whether you were born to them or not. |
Onesimus Tarsus
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
675
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:11:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:We need an option to change our race when 1.6 drops, it's only fair seeing as we will be limited to what factional weapons/equipment we can access based on our starting race, and the only other way to access other racial gear will be through the P2P market, but we still dont have an ETA on that yet either. read my post sweetie. Race doesnt matter.
So, when are they removing races from the game? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3872
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:12:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:No. EVE-style face changer? Yea, sure. Race change? No. Our combat clones all looks the same.....
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
725
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:18:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Welk if you like shields and are caldari race with caldari suits yiu get their racial bonus. If your caldari and you like any other races suit you dont get their racial bonus. Thats why race matters. Glory to the state That isn't how racial bonuses work. I am Caldari, but I get the Amarr Logistics racial bonus from my suit. Race affect nothing but Starter Fits and Roleplaying. Glory to the Empress and the State.
[+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94]
Burner of faces.
The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
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Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1551
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:24:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:So one starts playing Dust-514, first thing they do is ... "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" and pick a race. After they stick around awhile and gather say 12mill lifetime SP, and FW is about to change radically to be LP and race centric, Will CCP change my mercencary's race for me?
no need, you arnt locked into playing for any one empire...
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1551
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:25:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Welk if you like shields and are caldari race with caldari suits yiu get their racial bonus. If your caldari and you like any other races suit you dont get their racial bonus. Thats why race matters. Glory to the state
yes you do. I swear you new guys get worse and worse with your misinformation as time goes on...
Bittervet Proficiency V
thanks logibro!
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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
252
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:36:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Help ticket? Yea, I was wondering if anyone has tried this before.
i tried and thaled...
the BEST pilot in DUST 514, no.1 ranked pilot on BATTLEFIELD 3, and top 16 on WAR THUNDER.... come at me bro!
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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
252
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:40:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:We need an option to change our race when 1.6 drops, it's only fair seeing as we will be limited to what factional weapons/equipment we can access based on our starting race, and the only other way to access other racial gear will be through the P2P market, but we still dont have an ETA on that yet either. read my post sweetie. Race doesnt matter.
it does to me... caldari ftw!
the BEST pilot in DUST 514, no.1 ranked pilot on BATTLEFIELD 3, and top 16 on WAR THUNDER.... come at me bro!
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:43:00 -
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they just need to gives us the option to change forum avatars and which dropsuit displays on the Character Selection screen for your merc. Shouldn't be too hard.
Maybe even change the station you are housed at ... in Eve you can go to any of the empires' stations regardless. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1004
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:No. EVE-style face changer? Yea, sure. Race change? No. Our combat clones all looks the same..... I would imagine that there are some slight differences to our clones as dictated by our original appearance. We may all have the same general appearance, I would assume that we would carry our genetic markers into the mold we are formed in, things like eye/hair color, skin tone etc.
I am not saying that we'd have our original individual appearance, just minor telltale signs of it.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives....
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Cross Ragweed
The Neutral Zone
15
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:10:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote: Race really doesnt matter even with FW. any race character can support any race. Even if they couldnt, CCP would never allow a character to switch race.
It seems to me that the upcoming FW with LP is going to affect this. It would seem that we (dust mercenaries) will need to make a choice of living a mercenary code of highest bidder wins (Public or PC) or put some emphasis on being loyal to a given race and fight FW battles (for better race equipment that will give us an advantage in Public/PC).
As a merc, if all I care about this game (which is fine) is to shoot people in the face, with no regards to meta game, eve, alliances etc., then I suppose I don't care ... if a little LP in this race and a little in that can be traded/sold to build their own fittings.
Not knowing anything about Eve, Eve corporations and Eve Alliances, nor much knowledge of their lore, politics and history (other than the brief couple paragraph descriptions in the guide/wikii's etc.), I don't know, but assume it would be bad for me to try and develop relationships with a Gallente corp/alliance when I'm running around in say a Caldari character.
If FW is to be all about Loyalty and LP, seems it would be best to be of a given race.
How about it Eve players ... do you care if I desire to be loyal to your race and I'm not of it. Do you care if my corp establishes loyalty to a given race (even though there is a mix of races in my corp). Is my ability to establish alliances with eve corps/alliances going to be hurt based on my race.
I'm assume you would care, and if so, I disagree with jenza_aranda's comment
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
13
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:30:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Welk if you like shields and are caldari race with caldari suits yiu get their racial bonus. If your caldari and you like any other races suit you dont get their racial bonus. Thats why race matters. Glory to the state Racial bonuses are applied to anyone who wears that races dropsuit ... it REALLY doesn't make one bit of a difference what race you selected when you created your character ... it makes NO difference to anything in the game. While we're on the subject ... aparently (before I started Eve 5 years ago) your race DID make a difference to things like bonuses on ships, but CCP soon realised after a backlash from the community that this was a bad idea ... we all know how balance can easily sway from one thing to another after even minor changes and living with something OP for 6 months (Eve's build cycle) that only a particular race could use was deemed unfair.
Race and bloodline used to permanently determine your attributes when it came to eves passive skill training, it also determined your initial skills. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2545
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:30:00 -
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I think the newer the dust player you are the higher chance you have at being stupid
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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Cross Ragweed
The Neutral Zone
15
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:48:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I think the newer the dust player you are the higher chance you have at being stupid
sure, that is what I was trying to say in the OP. But even after being around for awhile, it becomes clear that even intermediate, and in many cases, those that have been around since closed beta have no clue (or being true mercenaries just don't care) about the issues I'm wondering about here. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1312
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:50:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:... FW is about to change radically to be LP and race centric...
You can fight for any "race/faction" in FW for dust, just like in EVE, your starting race will have zero impact, only your actions will. If you get locked out of fighting for a specific faction it will be due to you losing for them/winning against them too many times, not because of your starting race.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1312
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:52:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:How about it Eve players ... do you care if I desire to be loyal to your race and I'm not of it. Do you care if my corp establishes loyalty to a given race (even though there is a mix of races in my corp). Is my ability to establish alliances with eve corps/alliances going to be hurt based on my race.
I'm assume you would care, and if so, I disagree with jenza_aranda's comment
Of course we don't care, every single large corp is of mixed races and bloodlines, even EVE space Faction Warfare has mixed races.
In EVE it does not matter where you originated, it only matters what you do and what you did.
Closed Beta Vet
Reading the forums detracts from overall enjoyment of the game
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1331
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:54:00 -
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Much like real life, you are stick in whatever god chooses for you.
Or not, I don't care. Change your race were in the future. |
Cross Ragweed
The Neutral Zone
15
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Posted - 2013.11.03 01:07:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Of course we don't care, every single large corp is of mixed races and bloodlines, even EVE space Faction Warfare has mixed races. In EVE it does not matter where you originated, it only matters what you do and what you did.
ah, this is good news, thanks for the input.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2004
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:25:00 -
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*sigh* maybe i should have explained further. Race doesnt effect the upcoming or existing gameplay at all beyond what gear you start with, its only really there to add some back story but has no effect or limitations on how you play.
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
306
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:27:00 -
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Cross Ragweed wrote:So one starts playing Dust-514, first thing they do is ... "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" and pick a race. After they stick around awhile and gather say 12mill lifetime SP, and FW is about to change radically to be LP and race centric, Will CCP change my mercencary's race for me?
I just want to say that your RACE is completely meaningless. It's like saying your favorite Letter is either A,B,C or D. Because you are not limited to the dropsuits you can train into due to your race, it doesn't mean anything. The only reason your race would matter is if you are role playing...
And I have nothing more to say if you are role playing...
Director (Management)
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
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Green Living
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
959
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Posted - 2013.11.03 19:40:00 -
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Been screaming about this for over a year now. I have given up. |
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