Stalwart conclusion, but it's incorrect. I do, in fact, have two BPOs.

Sad to say but you WILL just be replaced . YOU and WHOEVER goes with you . I can't see them going bankrupt any time soon . CCP is building and attempting to become as big or bigger than Electronic Arts , and you know that's BIG .

To much emotions in this thread, but anyway.

For me solution looks simple.
1.) Add production to DUST.
2.) Add Refinering of stuff to DUST
2.) Let us PRODUCE weapons based on BPOs

So... ppl can produce weapons based on BPOs.
Pro:
* Cheaper than simple buying them on the market.
* BPOs are not useless
* We would finally have some business aspects for players that want something beside killing.

Well I have over 30, so STFU!

I think removing BPOs made sense for the direction ccp wants to take the economy.

that said, I BOUGHT THESE WITH MY MONEY! so I am against ANY change to the ones I own.

I bought them because of what they are and with no expectation they would change.

if CCP changes the way the stuff I already bought works without a full cash refund, I will cancel my eve account, stop playing dust and boycott any future endeavor CCP is a part off.

plus I will do my best to sue them for ripping me off.

you make no sense man, why would you support ccp changing things you already bought....???

Because it's for the greater good of New Eden, of course.
Of course I don't want to lose my investment, but if that's what is necessary, then so be it.

BPOs as they currently are need to be completely removed from Dust 514. I don't care about the rage it will cause, they need to go in order to have a functional economy. CCP can refund them, or they can replace them, but they need to go.

lol what rubbish...

do me a favor, look up T2 BPOs in eve....

BPOs of dust will go a similar way, minus the manufacturing aspect if you just leave them alone....

you are trying to be noble under a false pretense and leave yourself looking foolish...

once you look up those T2 BPs come reply to this post with why you think BPOs need to be removed...

I've never liked the existence of T2 BPOs, so if you thought this would change my mind, you're dead wrong.

That's a dev response to a misquote. I want everyone including BPO owners to discuss what would be reasonable for the future of BPOs.

lol, you cant change the minds of the brainless...

the point is it doesn't effect the eve economy, or the enjoyment of the hundreds of thousands of eve pilots....

dust bpos are no where near worth as much or as effective

unless you can give an argument other than you don't like them as to why they should be removed, you should just be bitter in silence.

I presume you are calling me brainless? How wonderfully ad hominem.


Are you talking about T2 BPOs or Dust BPOs now? If you're talking about T2 BPOs, of course they affect the economy, even if slightly. If you're talking about Dust BPOs, they will affect the economy in the future. And "hundreds of thousands of EVE players" is quite a large number. It takes a helluva lot to affect that many people. So, you're right, Dust BPOs wouldn't.


There are far more BPOs in Dust, and far fewer players in Dust, not to mention that BPOs in Dust reward you just for having them, whereas you still need the materials required to use T2 BPOs in EVE.


The items come from nowhere. They aren't manufactured, found, harvested, awarded, or bought. They just pop out of nowhere because you own a "BPO". It violates one of the most fundamental rules of New Eden. The only exceptions to that rule should be things like rookie ships and starter fits, since it would suck if you couldn't do anything. I don't like T2 BPOs because they are artifacts. I dislike Dust 514 BPOs for a completely different reason: they aren't consistent with the rest of the game!

I have 62 BPOs, so let me rest my nuts on your forehead and let that 'gamebreaking' fact sink in.

If they completely remove them there will be a shitstorm unlike anything they've ever seen.

People will cry, moan, ****, whine, petition, rage, threaten to quit, calm down, forget BPO's ever existed, and happily move on as we've seen many many times.

I can deal with them taking and refunding anything I bought on the market, but if they take my Templar gear I will go batshit.

I find it rather amusing that some players are so vehemently against the BPOs and are in such a tirade over how they break the market that as yet does not exist. We can't even transfer items we loot off the field (or buy) amongst corp-mates let alone buy or sell them on the 'market'. There seems to be many more pressing issues that need tending than the underlying complaint "it's not fair"

Personally, yes, I have several different packs I have bought with BPOs and I 'purchased' some with Aurom. Only duplicates I have where due to purchasing items by mistake. The BPO's bought really should be bound to the account that purchased them. If a person bought multiple packs offer them the option to convert the multiples into boosters or aurom, simple solution. Last time I checked the best of any BPO have the same stats and requirements as basic gear. In fact I have a 'Sever' Logistics BPO I can't use because I haven't invested the SP since they where changed. Advanced and Prototype gear is still going to be bought and consumed for the simple reason when you have the skills to run them you will for precisely the reason that you had to spend the SP to unlock them in the first place; CPU/PG slots and bonuses. Someone could run BPO only fits exclusively same as they could run the starter default fits (which are unlimited and will always be for same reason an Eve capsuleer gets a free rookie ship whenever they need one).

The BPO's included in the package deals for $$$ can be reasonably expected to not to deviate from the initial purchased content functionality nor considered transferable due to their non-consumable nature.

As for the concerns of manufacture of suits and equipment the existing BPO's should not be a part of it. However I am looking forward to the possibility for corporations without the ability to possess a district to support their Dust 514 members.

All CCP needs to do is to stop selling them. I don't think they have to take any further steps.

As more people start playing, or people run more expensive gear that there isn't a BPO of, people will be consuming goods that need the market.

I doubt the market is going to be that seriously impacted by a few people who were there when the game launched (and paid money for an incomplete game) not buying militia or a very limited selection of standard level gear off the market.

Completely removing BPOs would just fix a problem that time itself would have healed while pissing everyone off.

And we find it amusing that most BPO defenders are so short sighted that they can't look past their own interests to see how Dust-style BPOs will impede the integration of Dust into Eve.

We know people are upset, but if you step outside your shoes and look at the situation from a game design perspective, Dust BPOs gotta go. They should have never existed, and are no doubt a prominent item on a bulleted list circulating around CCP's office titled: "Things that are blocking the integration of Eve and Dust economies."

CCP will make you a decent offer if you don't want Eve BPOs, and the devoted crybabies can call their credit card companies or file a petition.

BPOs as they currently are need to be completely removed from Dust 514. I don't care about the rage it will cause, they need to go in order to have a functional economy. CCP can refund them, or they can replace them, but they need to go.

All CCP needs to do is to stop selling them. I don't think they have to take any further steps.

As more people start playing, or people run more expensive gear that there isn't a BPO of, people will be consuming goods that need the market.

I doubt the market is going to be that seriously impacted by a few people who were there when the game launched (and paid money for an incomplete game) not buying militia or a very limited selection of standard level gear off the market.

Completely removing BPOs would just fix a problem that time itself would have healed while pissing everyone off.

Perfect answer. I own most of them but I almost never use them. They have mediocre to poor stats and just arn't competative....although I do really enjoy being able to jump into a game as a sniper or a heavy whenever I want.

I don't really understand the logic behind them ruining the economy....in EVE you have an unlimited numer of rookie ships and the economy is fine because the whole point is to use something better.