nonsense blah blah blah blah blah nonsense

Seems legit.

No, you know what is OP? an SMG with nothing on it and a flaylock on a commando STD frame with no mods, that OP bro

hmm, no a heavy suit with a flaylock and nothing else seems right about it

Ha Ha you made nonsense sound nice.

Assault rifles are overpowered.

12.5 rps. Around 425 damage without damage modes in one second. LMAO and AR'S aint overpowered.

Just saying that calculating the DPS by multiplying the damage per shot by the number of shots per second is nonsense for a weapon like an AR.

All FPS are about the numbers fool. The numbers are what determines what weapons are commonly used.

Just saying that calculating the DPS by multiplying the damage per shot by the number of shots per second is nonsense for a weapon like an AR.

Assault rifles are overpowered.

12.5 rps. Around 425 damage without damage modes in one second. LMAO and AR'S aint overpowered.

They're supposed to be overpowered. Maybe not as much as they've been llately, but the assault rifle is the introductory weapon. It's the first thing a new player picks up and it does its job well in all areas. Other weapons are harder to use or weaker in different areas but make up for it in the different style of play and fun factor. Constant nerfing has made the generalist weapon the AR is meant to be into a weapon that can match or surpass other niche weapons, even in their own specialties. It's overpowered because it's meant to be but not while eliminating incentive to use other variants or other weapons. Duvolles are bull **** though.

Let's hope the new rifles in 1.7 balances things out a bit.

All FPS are about the numbers fool. The numbers are what determines what weapons are commonly used.

Adding in MORE POWERFUL weapons doesn't help the problem. Saying it's a general weapon for noobs to start also doesn't help the cause. It needs a reduction in ROF or an increase in bullet spread. It's extremely accurate from extremely far away which makes it extremely overpowered with respect to the other weapons on the field.

on another note, reducing complex damage mods down to 5% from 10% and giving them a negative penalty of adding extra kick to the weapon would also solve this problem by different means.

I never said numbers weren't important. I said your numbers were nonsense.

34 damage I think for the duvuolle math in general is correct.

Dispersion.

Feather trigger. Dispersion solved.

Adding in MORE POWERFUL weapons doesn't help the problem. Saying it's a general weapon for noobs to start also doesn't help the cause. It needs a reduction in ROF or an increase in bullet spread. It's extremely accurate from extremely far away which makes it extremely overpowered with respect to the other weapons on the field.

on another note, reducing complex damage mods down to 5% from 10% and giving them a negative penalty of adding extra kick to the weapon would also solve this problem by different means.

Altering damage mods will affect other weapons in the game that are doing just fine.

It's the AR and ASR that need specific attention right now. A 30% damage nerf to those weapons is a good place to start.

30% brings the DPS of the Duvolle down to 327.25, BEFORE skills and damage mods.

That's very reasonable, and will actually make a difference in how long firefights last.

Adding in MORE POWERFUL weapons doesn't help the problem. Saying it's a general weapon for noobs to start also doesn't help the cause. It needs a reduction in ROF or an increase in bullet spread. It's extremely accurate from extremely far away which makes it extremely overpowered with respect to the other weapons on the field.

on another note, reducing complex damage mods down to 5% from 10% and giving them a negative penalty of adding extra kick to the weapon would also solve this problem by different means.

@Cosgar

Are they laser accurate now? I'm just wondering has someone really looked in to that or is that more anecdotal? I never noticed as big of a hit detection problem as everyone else did for whatever reason.