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Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 470	Posted - 2013.10.30 23:50:00 - [31] - Quote It will be. REs will be the best way for Medium frames to kill tanks and LAVs in 1.7, and with Logistics you can carry ADV and proto with Nanohives and a Drop Uplink in case you die.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2171	Posted - 2013.10.30 23:51:00 - [32] - Quote while playing offensivly: GÖªAmarr Logi: Offensive Murderlogi. Capacity to carry sidearms and up to 3 Cx damage mods with enough armor to survive firefights GÖª Cal Logi and Gal logi: HP tanks. Having higher HP value in the game they can sutain massive amounts of damage and still be faster than heavies. GÖª Minmatar logi: Scout logi. With the ability to be fast , dual tank and hack fast is the ultimate flanking logi. u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1688	Posted - 2013.10.30 23:52:00 - [33] - Quote Atiim wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I much prefer the Gallente Logi. just because the skill bonus helps with the equipment and role. you can get a great balance of good hp, damage and equipment on it I like the mimmitar logi becuae it hacks like a MOFO when you skill it up all the way, and with a complex codebreaker? Incredible. But I think the only logi meant to be a "slayer logi" is the Amarr Logistics I am done with this thread. It has turned into a gangbang 1-v-all ignorance contest between the OP and everybody I will leave saying this. 1. with killing items used in equipment slots (please note that i am using an amarr proto logi) 2. with maxed out tanking moduels 3. with duvolle AR and six kin burst SMG Logi is more of a threat than a assault. we are not the selfless people who want to help people but the slayers who want to boost their K/D ratio (not everybody) Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2171	Posted - 2013.10.30 23:55:00 - [34] - Quote 1-there is not Six kin Burst SMG 2-Logis are equally offensive than assaults, the big difference being the slots at PROTO level that enable better tanking. (ADV logis and Assaults are prety balanced IMO) 3-A Good balance could be increasing Assaults Speed to the now SCOUT level, and raising Scout speeds to over 9.5.... A good speed difference would make people rethink if they want those 200 more HP (that WILL cost them ISK because of he modules) at the expense of heavy speed. u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 499	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:02:00 - [35] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Atiim wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I much prefer the Gallente Logi. just because the skill bonus helps with the equipment and role. you can get a great balance of good hp, damage and equipment on it I like the mimmitar logi becuae it hacks like a MOFO when you skill it up all the way, and with a complex codebreaker? Incredible. But I think the only logi meant to be a "slayer logi" is the Amarr Logistics I am done with this thread. It has turned into a gangbang 1-v-all ignorance contest between the OP and everybody I will leave saying this. 1. with killing items used in equipment slots (please note that i am using an amarr proto logi) 2. with maxed out tanking moduels 3. with duvolle AR and six kin burst SMG Logi is more of a threat than a assault. we are not the selfless people who want to help people but the slayers who want to boost their K/D ratio (not everybody) And when you come up against an Assault ak.0 running an Imperial, you'll eat your words. Again, and again.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1688	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:02:00 - [36] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: 1-there is not Six kin Burst SMG 2-Logis are equally offensive than assaults, the big difference being the slots at PROTO level that enable better tanking. (ADV logis and Assaults are prety balanced IMO) 3-A Good balance could be increasing Assaults Speed to the now SCOUT level, and raising Scout speeds to over 9.5.... A good speed difference would make people rethink if they want those 200 more HP (that WILL cost them ISK because of he modules) at the expense of heavy speed. go to market>go to weapons>go to light weapons>go to SMG> scroll all the way down(it's around the bottom) point 2 makes me want to throw up as i have been proving that wrong throuought the thread (again nobody reads my post) point3 isnt all that bad scouts will have a purpose instead of LAV's in the beggining of the match. and that might atleast give me a reason to continue skilling into assault Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1688	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:05:00 - [37] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Atiim wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I much prefer the Gallente Logi. just because the skill bonus helps with the equipment and role. you can get a great balance of good hp, damage and equipment on it I like the mimmitar logi becuae it hacks like a MOFO when you skill it up all the way, and with a complex codebreaker? Incredible. But I think the only logi meant to be a "slayer logi" is the Amarr Logistics I am done with this thread. It has turned into a gangbang 1-v-all ignorance contest between the OP and everybody I will leave saying this. 1. with killing items used in equipment slots (please note that i am using an amarr proto logi) 2. with maxed out tanking moduels 3. with duvolle AR and six kin burst SMG Logi is more of a threat than a assault. we are not the selfless people who want to help people but the slayers who want to boost their K/D ratio (not everybody) And when you come up against an Assault ak.0 running an Imperial, you'll eat your words. Again, and again. somebody obviously did not read this thread before posting. I will not repeat myself again,read some F*ing post on this thread or don't comment at all! Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 499	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:07:00 - [38] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: Atiim wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I much prefer the Gallente Logi. just because the skill bonus helps with the equipment and role. you can get a great balance of good hp, damage and equipment on it I like the mimmitar logi becuae it hacks like a MOFO when you skill it up all the way, and with a complex codebreaker? Incredible. But I think the only logi meant to be a "slayer logi" is the Amarr Logistics I am done with this thread. It has turned into a gangbang 1-v-all ignorance contest between the OP and everybody I will leave saying this. 1. with killing items used in equipment slots (please note that i am using an amarr proto logi) 2. with maxed out tanking moduels 3. with duvolle AR and six kin burst SMG Logi is more of a threat than a assault. we are not the selfless people who want to help people but the slayers who want to boost their K/D ratio (not everybody) And when you come up against an Assault ak.0 running an Imperial, you'll eat your words. Again, and again. somebody obviously did not read this thread before posting. I will not repeat myself again,read some F*ing post on this thread I read them all. Checkmate apparently runs a scanner with his imperial. Imperial doesn't need nanohives. Assault has one equip slot for scanner. REs are completely situational and not particularly useful for storming an objective. Assault ak.0 can fire his Imperial 25% longer than me, and I'll kill you with mine on my logi gk.0.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2171	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:08:00 - [39] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: 1-there is not Six kin Burst SMG 2-Logis are equally offensive than assaults, the big difference being the slots at PROTO level that enable better tanking. (ADV logis and Assaults are prety balanced IMO) 3-A Good balance could be increasing Assaults Speed to the now SCOUT level, and raising Scout speeds to over 9.5.... A good speed difference would make people rethink if they want those 200 more HP (that WILL cost them ISK because of he modules) at the expense of heavy speed. go to market>go to weapons>go to light weapons>go to SMG> scroll all the way down(it's around the bottom) point 2 makes me want to throw up as i have been proving that wrong throuought the thread (again nobody reads my post) point3 isnt all that bad scouts will have a purpose instead of LAV's in the beggining of the match. and that might atleast give me a reason to continue skilling into assault 1-I must be blind. I cant find a Burst SMG... 2-I isnist at ADV level Assaults and Logis are balanced. The Amarr Logi being the best of all. At proto level however, amarr logi falls behind many assaults and the other logis surpass the assault. 3-well yeah. u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1689	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:10:00 - [40] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: 1-there is not Six kin Burst SMG 2-Logis are equally offensive than assaults, the big difference being the slots at PROTO level that enable better tanking. (ADV logis and Assaults are prety balanced IMO) 3-A Good balance could be increasing Assaults Speed to the now SCOUT level, and raising Scout speeds to over 9.5.... A good speed difference would make people rethink if they want those 200 more HP (that WILL cost them ISK because of he modules) at the expense of heavy speed. go to market>go to weapons>go to light weapons>go to SMG> scroll all the way down(it's around the bottom) point 2 makes me want to throw up as i have been proving that wrong throuought the thread (again nobody reads my post) point3 isnt all that bad scouts will have a purpose instead of LAV's in the beggining of the match. and that might atleast give me a reason to continue skilling into assault 1-I must be blind. I cant find a Burst SMG... 2-I insist at ADV level Assaults and Logis are balanced. The Amarr Logi being the best of all. At proto level however, amarr logi falls behind many assaults and the other logis surpass the assault. 3-well yeah. STILL BLIND check the kill feed for his smg kills Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com

Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1038	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:11:00 - [41] - Quote just like I stated in my thread in feedback about logi suits vs all other suits... why would you want to spec into anything else? logies can do it all well enough to make the other suits negligibly better at performing the same task 2 equally skilled players, 1 in a logi suit, the other in whatever other suit he wants.... the logi will always win.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1689	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:13:00 - [42] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: just like I stated in my thread in feedback about logi suits vs all other suits... why would you want to spec into anything else? logies can do it all well enough to make the other suits negligibly better at performing the same task 2 equally skilled players, 1 in a logi suit, the other in whatever other suit he wants.... the logi will always win. finally some1 who understand what i'm trying to say +1 Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 501	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:14:00 - [43] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: 1-there is not Six kin Burst SMG 2-Logis are equally offensive than assaults, the big difference being the slots at PROTO level that enable better tanking. (ADV logis and Assaults are prety balanced IMO) 3-A Good balance could be increasing Assaults Speed to the now SCOUT level, and raising Scout speeds to over 9.5.... A good speed difference would make people rethink if they want those 200 more HP (that WILL cost them ISK because of he modules) at the expense of heavy speed. go to market>go to weapons>go to light weapons>go to SMG> scroll all the way down(it's around the bottom) point 2 makes me want to throw up as i have been proving that wrong throuought the thread (again nobody reads my post) point3 isnt all that bad scouts will have a purpose instead of LAV's in the beggining of the match. and that might atleast give me a reason to continue skilling into assault 1-I must be blind. I cant find a Burst SMG... 2-I insist at ADV level Assaults and Logis are balanced. The Amarr Logi being the best of all. At proto level however, amarr logi falls behind many assaults and the other logis surpass the assault. 3-well yeah. STILL BLIND check the kill feed for his smg kills Did you even watch the video? Six Kin is basic SMG, not burst. THERE IS NO PRO BURST SMG. even if there were, Ishukone'd be better
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1689	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:16:00 - [44] - Quote never said it was proto smg using an ishukone would only prove my point even more lets get back to the mian disscusion instead of minor details EDIT: i chose six kin because it's less cpu/pg heavy than the proto versions Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2172	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:17:00 - [45] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: STILL BLIND check the kill feed for his smg kills It says Six Kin SMG. no ''BURST'' anywhere . XD Hahaa im a proficient SMG user and i know them all by heart,even the stats of course. I was just teasing you because i know for a FACT there is no Burst variant. But for a second i was like...is THERE a Burst SMG? why havnt i tested it? GÖª Regular variants GÖª Assault variants GÖª Breach (AKA: CRAP) Variants Voila. Anyhow... its not thread realted ,so matter not. lets continue.... u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1180	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:20:00 - [46] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Also, Ammar assault and Amarr logistics have the best dynamic. Both are front line oriented suits, but the Assault has a better offensive bonus with laser weapons while the logistics has better survivability. In the end, it's a matter of play style and weapon choice. Neither one is better, just different. I have proto of both, confirming this. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1690	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:20:00 - [47] - Quote i mistakenly added "Burst" to it as i am used to seeing burst next to it on the proto HMG back to the main disscusion Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 502	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:22:00 - [48] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: never said it was proto smg using an ishukone would only prove my point even more lets get back to the mian disscusion instead of minor details EDIT: i chose six kin because it's less cpu/pg heavy than the proto versions Soulja Ghostface wrote: 3. duvolle AR and Six Kin Burst SMG From the bottom of the first page. Six Kin (corporation name) = proto Burst (weapon type) = burst Now. Clearly, you don't think that the immense increase in damage potential afforded by the Assault Ak.0's bonus is significant. I am inclined to think otherwise. Do I think that the assault suits suffer at the moment? Yes. Their bonuses are appalling, almost across the board. Fix those, and that should sort out quite a few of their problems. I disagree that a "logi with the right fitting is better than assaulting than an assault with the right fitting". The increased mobility of the assault suit is invaluable in assaulting, considering the potential for flanking manouevres it affords. EDITed for clarity and to get rid of some unnecessary passive aggression
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1690	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:24:00 - [49] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Cosgar wrote: Also, Ammar assault and Amarr logistics have the best dynamic. Both are front line oriented suits, but the Assault has a better offensive bonus with laser weapons while the logistics has better survivability. In the end, it's a matter of play style and weapon choice. Neither one is better, just different. I have proto of both, confirming this. notice how assault is only better with lazer weaponry. who in their right minds use ScR over AR. (people who put sp assault and don't want to switch to logi) i am actively working on getting proto amarr logi and forgetting about my ADV amarr assault (I wasted sp going to proto heavy frame) Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 502	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:26:00 - [50] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cosgar wrote: Also, Ammar assault and Amarr logistics have the best dynamic. Both are front line oriented suits, but the Assault has a better offensive bonus with laser weapons while the logistics has better survivability. In the end, it's a matter of play style and weapon choice. Neither one is better, just different. I have proto of both, confirming this. notice how assault is only better with lazer weaponry. who in their right minds use ScR over AR. (people who put sp assault and don't want to switch to logi) i am actively working on getting proto amarr logi and forgetting about my ADV amarr assault (I wasted sp going to proto heavy frame) If you're a decent shot, and know how to use it, ScR wins in 1v1s. Always. If you need the rapidfire, you have an assault variant with longer range than Gallente AR. If you can deal with not overheating (and I hear it's super convenient to have the Amarr Assault bonus) then Imperial will be your best friend forever.

Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1108	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:26:00 - [51] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Lets's face facts: Logi AK.0 is the best "DROPSUIT" in the game right now I agree. Why do you think I chose it? :D
Mordecai Sanguine What The French 88	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:29:00 - [52] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Lets's face facts: Logi AK.0 is the best "DROPSUIT" in the game right now Can do everything an assault can do. assaults run faster with a better strafe speed but nobody will miss too many shots with a aim assisted AR. More slots than assault Scouts are a skinny ginger grandson (no offense to anybody) heavies will survive for .2 seconds longer with the hp buff against a duvolle Cal Logi has no sidearm so towards the middle or end of the match no sidearm will render it useless (unless you die) For a less agitated experience, Join The Yellow Jacket Club Today. Amarr Logi is the "Combat" logi suit. It's totally said that it's an hybrid between "Assault" and "Logi" not totally logi not totally assault So yes he's supposed to be the best Logi suit for battle. (He only got 3 equipements and less PG and is slower with less stamina). AND really important have the same hitbox than an Heavy. We have 3 slot at left. So we MUST choose shield OR damage. Actually he's killed pretty easily so i don't see problem with him. I mean i'm not really fast (so can't dodge combat or bullets) and the actual DPS is so high that i could have 200ehp or my actual 850-900 that i'm down as fast.... The real problem is CalLogi. 9 slot : 5 left 4 right this is just INSANE. Can tank shield and armor AND have damager...... Better Logi combat suit thnt amarr that is supposed to be battle suit.... And NO a sidearm is not balancing EVERYTHING..... Ak.0 is not "cheated" next to a caldari Logi or a lot of assault suit. Sorry guys but really often i see assault at 1200ehp so stop crynig we are ALWAYS more powerful than you it's a lie. Logi need a rework YES but assault is not suppose to be "the ultimate class" don't forget.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1691	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:30:00 - [53] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Cosgar wrote: Also, Ammar assault and Amarr logistics have the best dynamic. Both are front line oriented suits, but the Assault has a better offensive bonus with laser weapons while the logistics has better survivability. In the end, it's a matter of play style and weapon choice. Neither one is better, just different. I have proto of both, confirming this. notice how assault is only better with lazer weaponry. who in their right minds use ScR over AR. (people who put sp assault and don't want to switch to logi) i am actively working on getting proto amarr logi and forgetting about my ADV amarr assault (I wasted sp going to proto heavy frame) If you're a decent shot, and know how to use it, ScR wins in 1v1s. Always. If you need the rapidfire, you have an assault variant with longer range than Gallente AR. If you can deal with not overheating (and I hear it's super convenient to have the Amarr Assault bonus) then Imperial will be your best friend forever. If you think ima just derp charge enemies and get shot down you have another thing coming. charge shot on ScR have been ninja nerfed by making the charge shot smaller. and the bonus is around 5+ normal shots. even with bonus they can't beat AR. AR is too accurate,longer range than AScR, and i can do 80+ damage a shot with the TAC AR. not to mention it is good at hipfiring Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
JL3Eleven 1192	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:31:00 - [54] - Quote Proto assault logi ck.0 suit is better than the proto assault ck.0 suit simple fact. P.S. Cosgar is a fanboi with more forum likes than kills lol. I'm drunk every time I play, what's your excuse? Forums > Game Oh I almost forgot... Can I haz ur stuff?
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2172	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:33:00 - [55] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: just like I stated in my thread in feedback about logi suits vs all other suits... why would you want to spec into anything else? logies can do it all well enough to make the other suits negligibly better at performing the same task 2 equally skilled players, 1 in a logi suit, the other in whatever other suit he wants.... the logi will always win. finally some1 who understand what i'm trying to say +1 Actually: GÖª The AMARR ASSAULT does have a good bonus that makes people skill into it instead of Logi's. 25% Heat buildup reduction HAS saved me a lot , specially vs enemy laser users with different dropsuits. GÖª Another option besides the speed increase i mentioned before is giving ASSAULT suits better assault bonuses,for example: Amarr: Same (Better at using lazors!) Gallente:+10% Ammo capacity per level (so they can use the equipment slot for somethign else! ) Minmatar: 10% Sidearm clip size per level (SMG up to 120 per clip, Scrambler rifles get some more bullets up to 15 scrambler pistols and 13 breach , 31 BURST!!!) Caldari: shield tank bonus make a DIFFERENCE (instead of 2%): +8% Shield Extender efficiency per level. (This adds up to +40% shield ext efficiency PLUS the default 10% = +50% Shield efficiency = +99HP per cx shield extender) This way caldaris can Shield tank a LOT better with 4 Cx shield ext that equal 6 , 66 HP extenders OR use 2 Cx Shield extenders that equal 3 with 2 cx damage mods,so on... '' who in their right minds use ScR over AR'' = Me? People who like a challenge? not FOTM chasers? maybe? Amarr loyalists? Minmatar punks with a secret crush for amarr? Gallente tryhards that only wish the amarr ould accept them? i dont know... XD u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1110	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:40:00 - [56] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: just like I stated in my thread in feedback about logi suits vs all other suits... why would you want to spec into anything else? logies can do it all well enough to make the other suits negligibly better at performing the same task 2 equally skilled players, 1 in a logi suit, the other in whatever other suit he wants.... the logi will always win. lies...... *LIES!!!!* DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE BEEN DROPPED BY A PROTO CALDARI ASSAULT OR PROTO MINMATAR ASSAULT?!?!?!?! :D
Robocop Junior The Surrogates Of War 310	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:41:00 - [57] - Quote I like these threads wish there were more.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1110	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:42:00 - [58] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: I like these threads wish there were more. As if there isn't too many already :D
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS The Scourge. 1691	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:43:00 - [59] - Quote how is lazer weapon heat buildup important if im using the almight duvolle it beats Scr without a bonus (if AR's had a bonus sweet jesus i would melt faces off quicker than you could blink) Forum Warrior level 1/CEO/When will CCP give me heavy aircraft/www.mcdustdonaldsdust514.webs.com
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1110	Posted - 2013.10.31 00:46:00 - [60] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: how is lazer weapon heat buildup important if im using the almight duvolle it beats Scr without a bonus (if AR's had a bonus sweet jesus i would melt faces off quicker than you could blink) You are wrong. An Imperial can deal out more damage in a shorter time, at the right range and with the right aim. How do you like THAT :p :D



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