DUST Search - It's Time We Take Charge, For The Sake Of This Game. Prevent TANK 514

Tailss Prower wrote:

Atiim wrote:

DISCLAIMER: This thread is not about tanks. (Apparently some ppl can't be bothered to read the OP Roll

)

Ok I put Tank 514 in the title to get more people to read this thread, but their is a serious issue that needs to be addressed here, and that is the Battle "Academy"

With graduations after 1200 WP, which I could get in one battle without even trying, new players will be trusted into battle with all of the good people and will get roflstomped by even people running basic gear.

I say we start roflstomping and kill as much starter fits as much as possible until CCP decides to dress this

If the Battle "Academy" is not fixed, then new players will either AFK, or just quit all together, which will cause many people to have bad reviews for this game.

We must take whatever actions necessary to increase the player base, even if CCP won't!

with the way the game was made it wouldn't matter what they did with battle academy mode because most the new players are gonna leave because they dieing to people using free suits when those free suits do more dmg than their militia gear

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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3355	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:04:00 - [31] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I feel so cheated and deceived by the thread title that I don't even care what the body of your post says. You felt cheated? At least you bothered to read the OP. Unlike some people To be fair, you did name the thread about tanks. Deception backfire! Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 443	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:05:00 - [32] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I look forward for tank vs tank battles to happen again, and LAVs being tangible threats against HAVs. Not sure if trolling or being a dumbf*uck Soon my brothers shall see the light, free from the shackles of the Amarr Empire Everyone will taste my Freedom SoonGäó
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9759	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:06:00 - [33] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I look forward for tank vs tank battles to happen again, and LAVs being tangible threats against HAVs. Facepalm Oh? CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \= Minmatar Assault and Logistics =// Unlocked.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3355	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:08:00 - [34] - Quote I am finding this thread to be an excellent experiment to see who reads the OP and who only reads the title with no concern for the OP's arguments. +1 to that Note: I'm not actually going to +1 you, because I still feel cheated and deceived. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3702	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:09:00 - [35] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I look forward for tank vs tank battles to happen again, and LAVs being tangible threats against HAVs. Facepalm Oh? AV hot drops always have been tangible threats to tanks, though it was never the LAV that made it dangerous. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1661	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:12:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I look forward for tank vs tank battles to happen again, and LAVs being tangible threats against HAVs. Facepalm Oh? Nothing, don't worry about it man. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Cosgar ParagonX 6754	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:13:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Blam! isn't here to cater to you anymore, bring it on! I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 444	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:36:00 - [38] - Quote Cosgar wrote: CCP Blam! isn't here to cater to you anymore, bring it on! What job did CCP Blam! have again? Soon my brothers shall see the light, free from the shackles of the Amarr Empire Everyone will taste my Freedom SoonGäó
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9759	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:38:00 - [39] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cosgar wrote: CCP Blam! isn't here to cater to you anymore, bring it on! What job did CCP Blam! have again? He designed the Sagaris and Surya and throught that railguns having 4 meter splash was perfectly okay CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \= Minmatar Assault and Logistics =// Unlocked.
Void Echo Blades of Dust 1982	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:40:00 - [40] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: You didn't even know what a hardener was when I squared with you. You have no concept of anything that involves tanks or vehicles. You should never even speak of vehicles or recommend anything to do with them. Voids video will show this and you should feel bad. my purpose was to confirm weather or not he has a tank, the rest is on your own to handle, my video will be uploaded tomorrow (I have no idea how to record commentary) TheGamerPath Closed Beta Tank Vet. Till all are Free

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 444	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:42:00 - [41] - Quote Void Echo wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: You didn't even know what a hardener was when I squared with you. You have no concept of anything that involves tanks or vehicles. You should never even speak of vehicles or recommend anything to do with them. Voids video will show this and you should feel bad. my purpose was to confirm weather or not he has a tank, the rest is on your own to handle, my video will be uploaded tomorrow (I have no idea how to record commentary) Yep, recognize that my Madrugar is existent, and bask in it's cheap 400k versatility Soon my brothers shall see the light, free from the shackles of the Amarr Captors All shall taste my Freedom SoonGäó
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 444	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:53:00 - [42] - Quote Any thoughts on improving the battle academy? Soon my brothers shall see the light, free from the shackles of the Amarr Captors All shall taste my Freedom SoonGäó
Void Echo Blades of Dust 1982	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:54:00 - [43] - Quote Atiim wrote: Void Echo wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: You didn't even know what a hardener was when I squared with you. You have no concept of anything that involves tanks or vehicles. You should never even speak of vehicles or recommend anything to do with them. Voids video will show this and you should feel bad. my purpose was to confirm weather or not he has a tank, the rest is on your own to handle, my video will be uploaded tomorrow (I have no idea how to record commentary) Yep, recognize that my Madrugar is existent, and bask in it's cheap 400k versatility you have a **** fit, I know because of the price TheGamerPath Closed Beta Tank Vet. Top 10 Rail Till all are Free
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3710	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:56:00 - [44] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Atiim wrote: Void Echo wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: You didn't even know what a hardener was when I squared with you. You have no concept of anything that involves tanks or vehicles. You should never even speak of vehicles or recommend anything to do with them. Voids video will show this and you should feel bad. my purpose was to confirm weather or not he has a tank, the rest is on your own to handle, my video will be uploaded tomorrow (I have no idea how to record commentary) Yep, recognize that my Madrugar is existent, and bask in it's cheap 400k versatility you have a **** fit, I know because of the price So we are vindicated. Atiim always was a terrible tanker? "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Void Echo Blades of Dust 1982	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:59:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: Atiim wrote: Void Echo wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: You didn't even know what a hardener was when I squared with you. You have no concept of anything that involves tanks or vehicles. You should never even speak of vehicles or recommend anything to do with them. Voids video will show this and you should feel bad. my purpose was to confirm weather or not he has a tank, the rest is on your own to handle, my video will be uploaded tomorrow (I have no idea how to record commentary) Yep, recognize that my Madrugar is existent, and bask in it's cheap 400k versatility you have a ** fit, I know because of the price So we are vindicated. Atiim always was a terrible tanker? in my honest opinion, he is one of the most ****** pilot in the game (im guessing hes lukeboy's alt)..... unfortunately none of the voices got recorded, only the gameplay. however I didn't stay for long, I only wanted to see what I went there to see. TheGamerPath Closed Beta Vet Top 10 Tankers // Master Rail Gunner
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3710	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:03:00 - [46] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: Cosgar wrote: CCP Blam! isn't here to cater to you anymore, bring it on! What job did CCP Blam! have again? He designed the Sagaris and Surya and throught that railguns having 4 meter splash was perfectly okay It would be okay if we removed large blaster turrets. Give me main battle cannons over 50 Cal guns any day! Heavy Plasma Cannon- Fast Reload, Large Ammo Cap, High Splash 120mm Auto Cannon- Moderate Reload, Largest Ammo Cap, Good Splash. Heavy Beam Laser- Moderate Reload, Low to Medium Ammo Cap, Worst Splash, continuous beam. Rail Gun- Lowest Reload, Low Ammo Caap, Highest Alpha, Low Splash Missiles- Standard Reload, Decent Ammo Cap, Low Alpha, High Splash, High Volley Damage. Do away with the age of the Large Blaster, make them Medium Turrets with lower DPS, but still infantry killers to fit on MAV and MTAC, while HAV keep the role of High Alpha Anti Vehicle, and moderate splash damage anti infantry tanks! "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3710	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:04:00 - [47] - Quote Void Echo wrote: in my honest opinion, he is one of the most ******** pilot in the game (im guessing hes lukeboy's alt)..... unfortunately none of the voices got recorded, only the gameplay. however I didn't stay for long, I only wanted to see what I went there to see. Link me when the vid is up. I wanna check and see if I am better. I'll know one way or the other. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Void Echo Blades of Dust 1982	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:09:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Void Echo wrote: in my honest opinion, he is one of the most ******** pilot in the game (im guessing hes lukeboy's alt)..... unfortunately none of the voices got recorded, only the gameplay. however I didn't stay for long, I only wanted to see what I went there to see. Link me when the vid is up. I wanna check and see if I am better. I'll know one way or the other. like I said, I didn't stay for long once I saw what I went there to see I left and completed the video. your going to have to ask someone else on how he did. TheGamerPath Closed Beta Vet Top 10 Tankers // Master Rail Gunner
Cosgar ParagonX 6760	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:17:00 - [49] - Quote Atiim wrote: Cosgar wrote: CCP Blam! isn't here to cater to you anymore, bring it on! What job did CCP Blam! have again? Vehicles. He's the reason why pilots don't have enough PG to use anything. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 432	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:25:00 - [50] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Atiim wrote: Cosgar wrote: CCP Blam! isn't here to cater to you anymore, bring it on! What job did CCP Blam! have again? He designed the Sagaris and Surya and throught that railguns having 4 meter splash was perfectly okay It would be okay if we removed large blaster turrets. Give me main battle cannons over 50 Cal guns any day! Heavy Plasma Cannon- Fast Reload, Large Ammo Cap, High Splash 120mm Auto Cannon- Moderate Reload, Largest Ammo Cap, Good Splash. Heavy Beam Laser- Moderate Reload, Low to Medium Ammo Cap, Worst Splash, continuous beam. Rail Gun- Lowest Reload, Low Ammo Caap, Highest Alpha, Low Splash Missiles- Standard Reload, Decent Ammo Cap, Low Alpha, High Splash, High Volley Damage. Do away with the age of the Large Blaster, make them Medium Turrets with lower DPS, but still infantry killers to fit on MAV and MTAC, while HAV keep the role of High Alpha Anti Vehicle, and moderate splash damage anti infantry tanks! You had me at Heavy Plasma Cannon. The Dust 514 AFK song

Useful Blueberry Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:46:00 - [51] - Quote Atiim wrote: DISCLAIMER: This thread is not about tanks. (Apparently some ppl can't be bothered to read the OP ) Ok I put Tank 514 in the title to get more people to read this thread, but their is a serious issue that needs to be addressed here, and that is the Battle "Academy" With graduations after 1200 WP, which I could get in one battle without even trying, new players will be trusted into battle with all of the good people and will get roflstomped by even people running basic gear. I say we start roflstomping and kill as much starter fits as much as possible until CCP decides to dress this If the Battle "Academy" is not fixed, then new players will either AFK, or just quit all together, which will cause many people to have bad reviews for this game. We must take whatever actions necessary to increase the player base, even if CCP won't! Just came out of the Academy with 2500 war points in one match.After that I built a logi suit and bought a repair tool and a nanite injector. I squaded up with some people and every match finished top 5 with at least 1k war points using militia everything aside from the suit. The problem lies with the player, the learning curve is smaller than what it seems it is because blueberries come into dust thinking it is another twitch shooter and try to run around. Dust 514 is a cover based game, even you have 800 shield while you run around, a good blueberry (which doesn't mean proto everything) can still kill you. Play tactical.
Void Echo Blades of Dust 1982	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:50:00 - [52] - Quote Ha he had ccp delete all of page 3 for making him feel bad Youtube Closed Beta Vet Top 10 Tankers // Master Rail Gunner
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 850	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:43:00 - [53] - Quote Perfect timing. Now I will just reconfigure the source, modify these silly tables and create a proper release. Oops. I cannot do that, it is their game. Sucks to be us.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 610	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:50:00 - [54] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Focus on PvE would be better than continued monkeying around with the all but useless Battle Academy. I think if PvE was introduced instantly, this game's population would increase by at least 300% minimum (I am willing to put all my ISK on this bet, that is how sure I am of the advantages of PvE in this game). I guarantee everyone who plays other games will look at this game with rose-tinted glasses if they had a place to allow newbies and people trying to save money an area where they could make solid isk without the fear of PvP protostomping. I still don't think CCP is convinced this will help them more than their futile PvP system at the moment when trying to pull in more players. Add PVE, and CCP wins... That is, if it is done in time.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1302	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:54:00 - [55] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: It doesn't matter if you come out of the Battle Academy at 1200 WP or 100,000 WP. You are gonna take your lumps. Better sooner that later (400 WP Academy Grad here). People are gonna pubstomp no matter what, there is no need to unite behind a banner of false pretenses to do it. On the flip side, saying you are going to pubstomp to entice CCP to raise the required amount of WP for Academy Graduation to somehow increase the player base, just to continue pubstomping regardless of what effects it may or may not have on the player base is silly. If you want to run your Proto gear in Ambush that's fine. You earned it, run it if you want. You don't need to pretend you do it for a noble cause. That's just corny. no, it's better when you have a few million isk and a few million SP and some good fits. Your not taking lumps, your just being held down and beaten...badly.
Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. 551	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:02:00 - [56] - Quote While I agree stomping newbies into the ground is not good for growing the playerbase. I disagree with seperating them into a special area which creates a false sense of competence that when they come out of the academy they get crushed, completely. I have yet to find a better way to impliment it without completely reworking the entire pub match system. Dust514 Stats, Have you updated today? I do maths, and sit in a corner.
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 124	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:48:00 - [57] - Quote Atiim wrote: DISCLAIMER: This thread is not about tanks. (Apparently some ppl can't be bothered to read the OP ) Ok I put Tank 514 in the title to get more people to read this thread, but their is a serious issue that needs to be addressed here, and that is the Battle "Academy" With graduations after 1200 WP, which I could get in one battle without even trying, new players will be trusted into battle with all of the good people and will get roflstomped by even people running basic gear. I say we start roflstomping and kill as much starter fits as much as possible until CCP decides to dress this If the Battle "Academy" is not fixed, then new players will either AFK, or just quit all together, which will cause many people to have bad reviews for this game. We must take whatever actions necessary to increase the player base, even if CCP won't! with the way the game was made it wouldn't matter what they did with battle academy mode because most the new players are gonna leave because they dieing to people using free suits when those free suits do more dmg than their militia gear
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1665	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:53:00 - [58] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: Atiim wrote: DISCLAIMER: This thread is not about tanks. (Apparently some ppl can't be bothered to read the OP ) Ok I put Tank 514 in the title to get more people to read this thread, but their is a serious issue that needs to be addressed here, and that is the Battle "Academy" With graduations after 1200 WP, which I could get in one battle without even trying, new players will be trusted into battle with all of the good people and will get roflstomped by even people running basic gear. I say we start roflstomping and kill as much starter fits as much as possible until CCP decides to dress this If the Battle "Academy" is not fixed, then new players will either AFK, or just quit all together, which will cause many people to have bad reviews for this game. We must take whatever actions necessary to increase the player base, even if CCP won't! with the way the game was made it wouldn't matter what they did with battle academy mode because most the new players are gonna leave because they dieing to people using free suits when those free suits do more dmg than their militia gear The std bpos you mean? Don't see what the suit's got to do with it, it's the core skills and upgraded mods that make the difference. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 447	Posted - 2013.10.29 11:47:00 - [59] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Ha he had ccp delete all of page 3 for making him feel bad Nah I didn't ask CCP to do anything. In fact I was actually wondering what happened to the posts myself Soon my brothers shall see the light, free from the shackles of the Amarr Captors All shall taste my Freedom SoonGäó
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4400	Posted - 2013.10.29 11:49:00 - [60] - Quote Atiim wrote: DISCLAIMER: This thread is not about tanks. (Apparently some ppl can't be bothered to read the OP ) Ok I put Tank 514 in the title to get more people to read this thread Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution



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