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Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 490	Posted - 2013.10.28 20:52:00 - [1] - Quote I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr?
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 746	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:05:00 - [2] - Quote My level of rage towards CCP liking to give Amarr lots of high slots instead of low slots i growing rapidly... Amarr is suppose to f*cking armor tank and that's all... For the Empire!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3335	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:09:00 - [3] - Quote So yesterday my corp mate and I got bored and decided to use up our Black Eagle Scout suits. Does anyone else agree that this is how the Commando should of been done? Two light weapons on a light frame with limited modules, no equipment, and a grenade? Makes a lot more sense. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 428	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:10:00 - [4] - Quote CCP wrote: SoonGäó Soon my brothers shall see the light, free from the shackles of the Amarr Empire Everyone will taste my Freedom SoonGäó
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 877	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:10:00 - [5] - Quote Put it this way, people have been saying AR's are broken for a long time now, the AV vs vehicle war has waged for almost as long too...And recently we have been told that these issues are being addressed...in the future but we stil lnot been given an actual date for it, do don't hold your breathe for other issues that need fixing
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 157	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:12:00 - [6] - Quote I love the commandos but yeah they could use a bit of love to help them survive a bit better. raising the shields and armor would go a long way. i'd like to see basic 1 low advance 1hi 1 low proto 1hi 2 low or if keep same slot layout but adding an extra equipment slot would make it truly great. hp does need a small buff though
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1654	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:13:00 - [7] - Quote I pity commandos, and I'm a scout. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1912	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:13:00 - [8] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? Give all commandos an extra low slot 300 shield & armour double their shield recharge rate half their isk price give them a proper specialisation bonus
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 142	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:15:00 - [9] - Quote I mean, what's the point of a swarm launcher if you can't fit 3 damage mods?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 492	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:15:00 - [10] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? Give all commandos an extra low slot 300 shield & armour double their shield recharge rate half their isk price give them a proper specialisation bonus Specialisation bonus as in the amarr commando bonus to modules?

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 428	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:16:00 - [11] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: I mean, what's the point of a swarm launcher if you can't fit 3 damage mods? To inflate a tankers E-PEEN What's gonna be the point of using a swarm launcher anyway Soon my brothers shall see the light, free from the shackles of the Amarr Empire Everyone will taste my Freedom SoonGäó
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9759	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:34:00 - [12] - Quote Well... Soon?(tm) CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \= Minmatar Assault and Logistics =// Unlocked.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 494	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:41:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well... Soon?(tm)
David Spd Caldari State 80	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:42:00 - [14] - Quote At the very least buff the appearance to make them look badass (new model/textures) instead of being a subtle reskin of the heavy..... ->I'm a closed beta vet; I just don't post often<- "Other people just complicate my life." ~Solid Snake
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 856	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:45:00 - [15] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? That I agree, much needed changes indeed Please don't
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 74	Posted - 2013.10.28 21:54:00 - [16] - Quote having to skill to level 3 in commando just to take advantage of the bonus is silly, even then you have to use the adv suit. who came up with this wonderfull idea? if its the same for the other races its fair but still daft,
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 99	Posted - 2013.10.28 22:00:00 - [17] - Quote Been saying this stuff for awhile lolmando need love.
Viktor Vikrizi The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 45	Posted - 2013.10.28 22:30:00 - [18] - Quote Almost forgot it existed till i saw this thread... "This is war. You never want to fight fair. You want to sneak up behind your enemy and club him over the head."
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3692	Posted - 2013.10.28 22:36:00 - [19] - Quote MAKE TEH COMMANDO A LIGHT FRAME LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS MEAN TO BE! "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2329	Posted - 2013.10.28 22:39:00 - [20] - Quote The Black Eagles must rise. Give me the option to use their suit. "It's because of people like you that I became this. And you'll never give me a reason to become someone else."

Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1317	Posted - 2013.10.28 22:41:00 - [21] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: So yesterday my corp mate and I got bored and decided to use up our Black Eagle Scout suits. Does anyone else agree that this is how the Commando should of been done? Two light weapons on a light frame with limited modules, no equipment, and a grenade? Makes a lot more sense. THe pilot suit made them make it a heavy suit, because otherwise, they would ***** about not having 2 suits lol 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 497	Posted - 2013.10.28 22:44:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: MAKE TEH COMMANDO A LIGHT FRAME LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS MEAN TO BE! I prefer it as a heavy
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3693	Posted - 2013.10.28 22:50:00 - [23] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: MAKE TEH COMMANDO A LIGHT FRAME LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS MEAN TO BE! I prefer it as a heavy I don't. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3695	Posted - 2013.10.29 00:00:00 - [24] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The Black Eagles must rise. Give me the option to use their suit. It wouldn't be the black eagles suit, it would be all scout suits. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3346	Posted - 2013.10.29 00:02:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The Black Eagles must rise. Give me the option to use their suit. It wouldn't be the black eagles suit, it would be all scout suits. All light suits. The commando would be a branch from the light, the scout would be a different branch from the light. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3346	Posted - 2013.10.29 00:06:00 - [26] - Quote Ok I posted this idea before and it didn't get much attention, but what if each role was not frame specific. For instance, if you wanted to be an Assault then you could be a light Assault, medium Assault, or heavy Assault. If you wanted to be a logi, you could be a light logi, a medium logi, or a heavy logi. If you wanted to be a commando, then you could be a light commando, medium commando, or heavy commando. And so on. Each individual role will be treated slightly differently among the different frames for balance, but will still follow the general trends. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3695	Posted - 2013.10.29 00:07:00 - [27] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Ok I posted this idea before and it didn't get much attention, but what if each role was not frame specific. For instance, if you wanted to be an Assault then you could be a light Assault, medium Assault, or heavy Assault. If you wanted to be a logi, you could be a light logi, a medium logi, or a heavy logi. If you wanted to be a commando, then you could be a light commando, medium commando, or heavy commando. And so on. Each individual role will be treated slightly differently among the different frames for balance, but will still follow the general trends. I've already suggested this to ccp under a Tecj 1 Tech II mode of game play where instead of empire drop suits we have corporate drop suits. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 499	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:06:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: MAKE TEH COMMANDO A LIGHT FRAME LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS MEAN TO BE! I prefer it as a heavy I don't. Scout dosent seem like a dual light gun suit, it seems more like a stealth/scouting suit. Heavy feels like it makes more sence for a class about firepower.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3358	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:10:00 - [29] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: MAKE TEH COMMANDO A LIGHT FRAME LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS MEAN TO BE! I prefer it as a heavy I don't. Scout dosent seem like a dual light gun suit, it seems more like a stealth/scouting suit. Heavy feels like it makes more sence for a class about firepower. Have you tried the Black Eagle suit? Shotgun and AR on a light frame is very fun and interesting. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 500	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:13:00 - [30] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: MAKE TEH COMMANDO A LIGHT FRAME LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS MEAN TO BE! I prefer it as a heavy I don't. Scout dosent seem like a dual light gun suit, it seems more like a stealth/scouting suit. Heavy feels like it makes more sence for a class about firepower. Have you tried the Black Eagle suit? Shotgun and AR on a light frame is very fun and interesting. Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout

Cosgar ParagonX 6754	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:16:00 - [31] - Quote True Adamance wrote: MAKE TEH COMMANDO A LIGHT FRAME LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS MEAN TO BE! Black Eagle scout was the original placeholder. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1916	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:43:00 - [32] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? Give all commandos an extra low slot 300 shield & armour double their shield recharge rate half their isk price give them a proper specialisation bonus Specialisation bonus as in the amarr commando bonus to modules? Either, but especially that one. It honestly feels like CCP was trolling. Like having a vehicle module to increase AR damage.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3710	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:52:00 - [33] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 949	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:58:00 - [34] - Quote If the commando got two "H" slots I'd **** myself.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1302	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:00:00 - [35] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? I agree and have even suggested the same things. I think they will change the Proto slots layout once the others suits released.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 501	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:03:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 293	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:10:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The Commando does put the "special" into special ops... just not the special we want it to It is poorly named, and does not really do what it says on the tin. It lacks the tools to get behind lines in any stealthy way.... unless you count falling from a Dropship.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2141	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:16:00 - [38] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? +1.. Also THIS u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3714	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:16:00 - [39] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando. Scout could do the Commando's job far better than it could and achieve the stealthy behinds the lines archetype. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1079	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:18:00 - [40] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando. That's funny because a commandos purpose is to complete missions behind enemy lines, not in new Eden I guess. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.

Llast 326 An Arkhos 294	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:23:00 - [41] - Quote As for the slot issue, yes it sucks.... though (and I may be wrong) Amarr are one less slot than the other Factions. So the other suits will have a better slot layout, no?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 502	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:13:00 - [42] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando. That's funny because a commandos purpose is to complete missions behind enemy lines, not in new Eden I guess. If you really dont like the name then start a petition to change its name. Imo it should just get a bit more HP, a reduction in cost, and a fix to its slot layout across tiers.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1916	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:53:00 - [43] - Quote To give my two cents on what the Commando "should" be; my impression was that it was intended to fulfil a kind of action hero role you get in most other FPS games. High health & two light weapons seems perfect for that. However CCP threw in all the downsides and more, that you would expect for trying to construct such a thing in New Eden. I gave a list of IMO needed buffs to the Commando. Now that I've seen arguments for the spec ops nature of the suit, I'd like to add much greater stamina to the list.
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 58	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:07:00 - [44] - Quote No suit should ever have 0 slots, imo, especially not one that has an explicit bonus to module efficacy.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 522	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:35:00 - [45] - Quote Commando is perfection as it is. Now, I realize a lot of people are going "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY?!" when reading that, but I realized something about the Commando quite some time ago. It doesn't need slots. It's a suit able to carry two light weapons and an equipment. Think about it. This suit can't have damage modifiers, so what's to take its place? PROFICIENCY! For **'s sake, people. This suit is able to be more devastating than people will ever acknowledge. With an AR at prof. 4, I ***** drop people. Hard. With just a standard. With a LR working up to prof. 4, I pity the one that is in my sight. This suit is perfection in the proper hands. Salute anyone who uses it, for they are using a suit that requires much more than complex damage modifiers to do well. P.S. Melee killing is also absolutely hilarious.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 435	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:39:00 - [46] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I pity commandos, and I'm a scout. Same. And I'm a basic scout...
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 443	Posted - 2013.10.29 06:27:00 - [47] - Quote redundant post. deleted. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3369	Posted - 2013.10.29 06:39:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando. Scout could do the Commando's job far better than it could and achieve the stealthy behinds the lines archetype. Again, keep in mind we're not saying "Make the commando a scout." We're actually saying "make the commando a light frame." Yes a scout's purpose is to get behind enemy lines, but that is not necessarily the purpose for every light frame role. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Rei Shepard Spectre II 758	Posted - 2013.10.29 07:14:00 - [49] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: So yesterday my corp mate and I got bored and decided to use up our Black Eagle Scout suits. Does anyone else agree that this is how the Commando should of been done? Two light weapons on a light frame with limited modules, no equipment, and a grenade? Makes a lot more sense. Very much so
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 505	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:09:00 - [50] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Commando is perfection as it is. Now, I realize a lot of people are going "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY?!" when reading that, but I realized something about the Commando quite some time ago. It doesn't need slots. It's a suit able to carry two light weapons and an equipment. Think about it. This suit can't have damage modifiers, so what's to take its place? PROFICIENCY! For **'s sake, people. This suit is able to be more devastating than people will ever acknowledge. With an AR at prof. 4, I ***** drop people. Hard. With just a standard. With a LR working up to prof. 4, I pity the one that is in my sight. This suit is perfection in the proper hands. Salute anyone who uses it, for they are using a suit that requires much more than complex damage modifiers to do well. P.S. Melee killing is also absolutely hilarious. If it had a bit more base health and wasn't so expensive it would be good

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 505	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:33:00 - [51] - Quote Just read the 1.6 patch notes * Increased Commando armor/shield hit points from 250/250 to 325/325.
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 154	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:38:00 - [52] - Quote With the nerf to forge splash and increased commando HP I wonder if commando+sniper rifle+swarm launcher might become viable from towers in PC?


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