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Cosgar ParagonX 6754	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:16:00 - [31] - Quote True Adamance wrote: MAKE TEH COMMANDO A LIGHT FRAME LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS MEAN TO BE! Black Eagle scout was the original placeholder. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1916	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:43:00 - [32] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? Give all commandos an extra low slot 300 shield & armour double their shield recharge rate half their isk price give them a proper specialisation bonus Specialisation bonus as in the amarr commando bonus to modules? Either, but especially that one. It honestly feels like CCP was trolling. Like having a vehicle module to increase AR damage.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3710	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:52:00 - [33] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 949	Posted - 2013.10.29 02:58:00 - [34] - Quote If the commando got two "H" slots I'd **** myself.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1302	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:00:00 - [35] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? I agree and have even suggested the same things. I think they will change the Proto slots layout once the others suits released.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 501	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:03:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 293	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:10:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The Commando does put the "special" into special ops... just not the special we want it to It is poorly named, and does not really do what it says on the tin. It lacks the tools to get behind lines in any stealthy way.... unless you count falling from a Dropship.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2141	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:16:00 - [38] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: I hope we can all agree the commando needs a buff The changes I would make: Increase base shield and armor to 300 each Give the basic commando a low slot Decrease the price to match the sentinal Make the proto commando 1 high and 2 low instead of the current 2 high and 1 low since its amarr? +1.. Also THIS u+Élop s-¦ -Äll+Én-ç+ö+É
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3714	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:16:00 - [39] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando. Scout could do the Commando's job far better than it could and achieve the stealthy behinds the lines archetype. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1079	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:18:00 - [40] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando. That's funny because a commandos purpose is to complete missions behind enemy lines, not in new Eden I guess. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.

Llast 326 An Arkhos 294	Posted - 2013.10.29 03:23:00 - [41] - Quote As for the slot issue, yes it sucks.... though (and I may be wrong) Amarr are one less slot than the other Factions. So the other suits will have a better slot layout, no?
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 502	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:13:00 - [42] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando. That's funny because a commandos purpose is to complete missions behind enemy lines, not in new Eden I guess. If you really dont like the name then start a petition to change its name. Imo it should just get a bit more HP, a reduction in cost, and a fix to its slot layout across tiers.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1916	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:53:00 - [43] - Quote To give my two cents on what the Commando "should" be; my impression was that it was intended to fulfil a kind of action hero role you get in most other FPS games. High health & two light weapons seems perfect for that. However CCP threw in all the downsides and more, that you would expect for trying to construct such a thing in New Eden. I gave a list of IMO needed buffs to the Commando. Now that I've seen arguments for the spec ops nature of the suit, I'd like to add much greater stamina to the list.
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 58	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:07:00 - [44] - Quote No suit should ever have 0 slots, imo, especially not one that has an explicit bonus to module efficacy.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 522	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:35:00 - [45] - Quote Commando is perfection as it is. Now, I realize a lot of people are going "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY?!" when reading that, but I realized something about the Commando quite some time ago. It doesn't need slots. It's a suit able to carry two light weapons and an equipment. Think about it. This suit can't have damage modifiers, so what's to take its place? PROFICIENCY! For **'s sake, people. This suit is able to be more devastating than people will ever acknowledge. With an AR at prof. 4, I ***** drop people. Hard. With just a standard. With a LR working up to prof. 4, I pity the one that is in my sight. This suit is perfection in the proper hands. Salute anyone who uses it, for they are using a suit that requires much more than complex damage modifiers to do well. P.S. Melee killing is also absolutely hilarious.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 435	Posted - 2013.10.29 05:39:00 - [46] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I pity commandos, and I'm a scout. Same. And I'm a basic scout...
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 443	Posted - 2013.10.29 06:27:00 - [47] - Quote redundant post. deleted. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3369	Posted - 2013.10.29 06:39:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Id prefer to run a shotgun and a scrambler pistol on a scout You are preaching to the choir, Aero and I run dual Scrambler Pistols, our point is that the Commando implies it fulfil the role of a commando which tends to be special operations behind enemy lines etc. I mean I would be afraid to see a waddling gimped Commando Heavy run behind my lines struggling to breath. but if a light frame with two light weapons ran back there I would **** myself. So did half the guys I killed while running black eagles after watching me run 60 AR rounds then charge them with a shot gun. The commando is supposed to be versitile in terms of weapons but lacking in module fiting. The scout is supposed to be the "behind enemy lines" class, not the commando. Scout could do the Commando's job far better than it could and achieve the stealthy behinds the lines archetype. Again, keep in mind we're not saying "Make the commando a scout." We're actually saying "make the commando a light frame." Yes a scout's purpose is to get behind enemy lines, but that is not necessarily the purpose for every light frame role. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Rei Shepard Spectre II 758	Posted - 2013.10.29 07:14:00 - [49] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: So yesterday my corp mate and I got bored and decided to use up our Black Eagle Scout suits. Does anyone else agree that this is how the Commando should of been done? Two light weapons on a light frame with limited modules, no equipment, and a grenade? Makes a lot more sense. Very much so
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 505	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:09:00 - [50] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Commando is perfection as it is. Now, I realize a lot of people are going "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY?!" when reading that, but I realized something about the Commando quite some time ago. It doesn't need slots. It's a suit able to carry two light weapons and an equipment. Think about it. This suit can't have damage modifiers, so what's to take its place? PROFICIENCY! For **'s sake, people. This suit is able to be more devastating than people will ever acknowledge. With an AR at prof. 4, I ***** drop people. Hard. With just a standard. With a LR working up to prof. 4, I pity the one that is in my sight. This suit is perfection in the proper hands. Salute anyone who uses it, for they are using a suit that requires much more than complex damage modifiers to do well. P.S. Melee killing is also absolutely hilarious. If it had a bit more base health and wasn't so expensive it would be good

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 505	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:33:00 - [51] - Quote Just read the 1.6 patch notes * Increased Commando armor/shield hit points from 250/250 to 325/325.
Ryme Intrinseca Seraphim Auxiliaries 154	Posted - 2013.10.29 12:38:00 - [52] - Quote With the nerf to forge splash and increased commando HP I wonder if commando+sniper rifle+swarm launcher might become viable from towers in PC?


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