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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:48:00 -
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NEW SCOUT SUITS
Theory Time!
To bring everyone up-to-speed, currently Scouts have a five-slot config:
Gallente - 1H/4L 
Minmatar - 3H/2L
If this pattern holds, new Scouts will perhaps look something like:
Caldari - 4H/1L 
Amarr - 2H/2L
So the new Scouts will be poo, unless CCP has scheduled a buff, something like:
Gallente - 2H/4L 
Minmatar - 3H/3L
Caldari - 4H/2L
Amarr - 2H/3L
^ Look at how everyone's happy.
RESPECS
Let's assume, hypothetically, that CCP offers a Full Respec once all Racial Suits are released.
SCOUT EXODUS, Part III
Scout Exodus, Part I - Uprising 1.0. Scout suit bad. Scout Heroes switch to the Medium Frame.
Scout Exodus, Part II - Uprising Respec. Scout still bad. More Scout Heroes make the switch.
Scout Exodus, Part III - Assuming the Scout is not buffed, will you stick it out or make the switch?
REFERENCES:
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1807
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:48:00 -
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Assumptions:
1) Scouts remain as is (no meaningful buff).
2) Mediums remain as is (no meaningful nerf).
3) Respec is offered once racial variants are released.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:49:00 -
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Reserved |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:50:00 -
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Reserved |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3310
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:54:00 -
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4H 1L could actually be really good for the Caldari scout, considering scouts have crazy high shield regen speeds and shields don't have any penalty. The Caldari scout could be the true combat scout, though in my opinions scouts should be about avoiding combat to begin with.
I am expecting Amarr scout to have 4 slots, but I am hoping beyond all hope it is 1H 3L which would make it somewhat useful. 2H 2L would suck
Also, have you explored the possibility that one of the scouts may be the Scout Type-II/B-Series from Chromosome? Consider the Amarr, they are slower across the board and have precedent for mixing up the weapon/equipment combo (Amarr logi gets 2 weapons in exchange for an equipment). Now consider the Scout Type-II/B-Series, which was slower and traded a weapon for an extra equipment. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Cult of War
740
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Posted - 2013.10.28 16:57:00 -
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I would like a 2H/3L Amarr scout...
Even a 1H/3L would be nice, just anything moving away from dual tank ****.
For the Empire!
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
464
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:01:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Scout Exodus, Part III - Assuming the Scout is not buffed, will you stick it out or make the switch?
I'll stick with scouts even if CCP nerfs both legs off them.
I'm going to go for Cal scout but yeah 4H/1L does not sound that great. It means I get to chose between having armor regen or avoid pro scanners. Not to mention high slots are boring at the moment. Probably end up with just 2 cmp extenders and 2 cmp damage mods since there isn't really anything else worth placing there at the moment. (Though that is more of a lack-of-content problem than a scout suit problem)
EDIT:
#161 Shakti Ishii - Staying scout until we go down in flames.  |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1807
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:06:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Scout Exodus, Part III - Assuming the Scout is not buffed, will you stick it out or make the switch? I'll stick with scouts even if CCP nerfs both legs off them. I'm going to go for Cal scout but yeah 4H/1L does not sound that great. It means I get to chose between having armor regen or avoid pro scanners. Not to mention high slots are boring at the moment. Probably end up with just 2 cmp extenders and 2 cmp damage mods since there isn't really anything else worth placing there at the moment. (Though that is more of a lack-of-content problem than a scout suit problem)
I thought you already switched from Scout (?).
If you're back at it, let me know! |
Knight Soiaire
Mercenaries of Sunlight
2826
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:07:00 -
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Depends what state HAVs are in after the Update.
I started off with HAVs, so if they're good again I might go back.
Knight Soiaire's 40mil ISK Raffle!
Mercenaries of Sunlight!
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
464
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:07:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Scout Exodus, Part III - Assuming the Scout is not buffed, will you stick it out or make the switch? I'll stick with scouts even if CCP nerfs both legs off them. I'm going to go for Cal scout but yeah 4H/1L does not sound that great. It means I get to chose between having armor regen or avoid pro scanners. Not to mention high slots are boring at the moment. Probably end up with just 2 cmp extenders and 2 cmp damage mods since there isn't really anything else worth placing there at the moment. (Though that is more of a lack-of-content problem than a scout suit problem) I thought you already switched from Scout (?). If you're back at it, let me know!
<-- this guy is a forum face only. Shakti Ishii is my scout and will always be. |
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Sleepy Zan
2632
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:09:00 -
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I feel I made a mistake by leaving my scout after last respect, never doing that again.
Look for your Power..
..Master and Conquer..
..Till you Expire
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Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1605
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:09:00 -
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The day the Amarr Scout is released is the day I fall to my knees and weep with joy.
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
351
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:13:00 -
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My love affair with the scout suit is like my love with the Mass Driver.
I've used both since I joined, and almost always return to them.
I'm in this for the long haul, wont be moving from the scout anytime soon.
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Protected Void
R 0 N 1 N
167
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:21:00 -
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I'll probably stay a scout, but will be whining every opportunity I get about the lack of buff. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
568
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:21:00 -
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I will be forever staying scout Shotty, no matter how angry I get at CCP, I love my brothers and sisters too much to abandon them. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
289
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:24:00 -
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Yeah i agree, i hate the fact that minmatar, galante and caldari heavy has more slot than scouts. |
Kahn Zo
R 0 N 1 N
34
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:25:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:I will be forever staying scout Shotty, no matter how angry I get at CCP, I love my brothers and sisters too much to abandon them.
here here o/ |
Victor889
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
36
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:28:00 -
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why not just give all scouts 5 highs and 5 lows but limit their PG/CPU, that way you guys can do whatever you want and I can still mow you down with my HMG? |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
512
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:29:00 -
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Reserved till i get a real computer. Short answer is i'll
stay a scout.
FTW, not the KDr
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1300
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:29:00 -
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I don't think Caldari would ever get 4 highs for a scout suit. It would probably be 3/2
Edit: I'll be staying and I can't believe I'm above knight! |
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
290
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:30:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:4H 1L could actually be really good for the Caldari scout, considering scouts have crazy high shield regen speeds and shields don't have any penalty. The Caldari scout could be the true combat scout, though in my opinions scouts should be about avoiding combat to begin with.
I am expecting Amarr scout to have 4 slots, but I am hoping beyond all hope it is 1H 3L which would make it somewhat useful. 2H 2L would suck
Also, have you explored the possibility that one of the scouts may be the Scout Type-II/B-Series from Chromosome? Consider the Amarr, they are slower across the board and have precedent for mixing up the weapon/equipment combo (Amarr logi gets 2 weapons in exchange for an equipment). Now consider the Scout Type-II/B-Series, which was slower and traded a weapon for an extra equipment.
I don't know, amarr got some unique bonuses and good EHP. But maybe it's best if you go amarr assault cos amarr scout is the same speed like minmatar assault but with a built in repairer... |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3311
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:30:00 -
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Also Shotty, somewhere in Post 2 or Post 3 can you make a new list titled "Players joining Scout" or something like that?
I'm not a scout now because there's no Amarr scout, but the second they release that and there's a respec, I plan to dedicate myself to that role no matter what. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4777
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:33:00 -
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Staying as a scout.
CCP, please fix the Nova Knives. Thank you.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3311
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:37:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Yeah i agree, i hate the fact that minmatar, galante and caldari heavy has more slot than scouts, i also think scouts should get something that med frames can't use like something only scouts can use because heavies got heavy weapons but scouts are weaker med frames.
I'm hoping they make the the infantry cloak thing a built in module for scouts. If they make it a regular equipment piece like they said they planned to do in some old dev blog, then all we're going to see are invisible logis. |
Dominus Fatali
Nox Aeterna Security
522
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:40:00 -
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Definitely staying in my Gallente Scout.
Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
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Samuel Zelik
D.A.R.K Academy
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
70
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:42:00 -
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I'd be going Scout, regardless of the buff. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1301
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:45:00 -
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Dominus Fatali wrote:Definitely staying in my Gallente Scout.
A brotha. |
Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
88
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:48:00 -
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i will stay, but im sure i will have a medium suit with ar, its getting frustrating |
pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
302
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Posted - 2013.10.28 17:57:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Yeah i agree, i hate the fact that minmatar, galante and caldari heavy has more slot than scouts, i also think scouts should get something that med frames can't use like something only scouts can use because heavies got heavy weapons but scouts are weaker med frames. I'm hoping they make the the infantry cloak thing a built in module for scouts. If they make it a regular equipment piece like they said they planned to do in some old dev blog, then all we're going to see are invisible logis.
lol at seeing invisible logis! |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
292
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Posted - 2013.10.28 18:08:00 -
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I will be staying as a scout, likely still Gal even after a respec. I would just tidy up my skill tree a little... |
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