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gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 3838	Posted - 2013.10.28 13:10:00 - [1] - Quote I have two things to say. 1) have all you swarmers forgotten that your RoF was effectively doubled a couple of months ago? swarms already had an advantage and that only got increased, so don't act like your hard done by please its just insulting. 2) if by the logic you guys are going with that a Light AV weapon should be able to solo tanks, then by logical conclusion a Heavy AV weapon should be so OP that it can OHK every vehicle on the map. The AV weapon dynamic should be that Heavy AV should be the only ones with a chance of solo'ing a tank (a Heavy vehicle) while light AV should be capable of solo'ing light vehicles and killing a tank with 2-3 other Light AV weapons.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 3895	Posted - 2013.10.30 13:18:00 - [2] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: So stop trying to solo tanks and you'll be okay. Did you know that if you get your whole squad to equip mlt swarms, you can kill any tank possible in two volleys at the most? 1 man in a tank that can kill both vehicles and infantry vs 6 men with AV that is useless against anything but Vehicles. Seems legit. You can use commando suits and PRO sidearms. You can use 3 forge guns up high so they're equally devastating against both infantry and vehicles. Why must pilots always figure things out for infantry? Did you just try to counter the 1 v 6 argument with use lolcommando suits? Sidearms against ARs with a 1-40+ meter optimal? Light and Medium Frames can use Forge Guns now, (completely irrelevant to swarm launchers)? You actually expect people to take you seriously? you know, i use SMG's on my logi suit and provided you actually use your head and close the range the SMG is more than a match for the AR, unless your up against a caldari in which case unless your carrying flux's your screwed. Lv 3 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 3895	Posted - 2013.10.30 14:06:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: gbghg wrote: you know, i use SMG's on my logi suit and provided you actually use your head and close the range the SMG is more than a match for the AR, unless your up against a caldari in which case unless your carrying flux's your screwed. Your an idiot. If I am in my AV fitting, wouldn't I have AV grenades? And yeah while you try to get into an SMGs optimal range, I'm gonna be a smart person and buttplugg you with a Duvolle. You assume that you will always be in CQC with infantry, when you are typically in mid rang. Not all Logi's have sidearms and yeah I want you to put your theory to the test. See how long it takes to get buttpluged before you can get in the SMGs optimal range the point about flux's was a general statement about how SMG's aren't as effective vs shields, besides if your going up against a shield tank carrying flux's makes some sense, however you're right, most av fits will be carrying av nades. and my point about the use of SMG's is that an AV'er should only be using them in a worse care scenario, aka they get ambushed and trapped in a fight with enemy infantry, and the majority of those situations result in the enemy rushing you if you're able to find cover. otherwise if someone starts taking potshots at you at medium range you should displace and move on somewhere else, not try and take them on. as for how effective my logi fit is? well if i get caught out at medium range i'm at a severe disadvantage, but thats part of the challenge, i have to use friendly infantry/vehicles as distraction, make use of cover, use the map to my advantage to close the distance into my optimal, in other words i have to use my head rather than just stand there and shoot at something with a lock on weapon. i mean jesus, you accuse tankers of wanting to be able to take out both tanks and infantry solo and yet i'm picking up the exact same vibe from you "oh noes the fact that we can't defend against slayers is bad,, tanks must be weakened so we can kill them then quickly switch back to our slayer fits", you accuse tankers of being biased and i will admit, more than a few are, yet you are without a doubt one of the most biased individuals on these forums, if it isn't something that weakens vehicles and buffs AV then its just "TANKS514!!!!! TANKS514!!!!!!", the hypocrisy you employ is dreadful and clearly doesn't take account of the fact that these vehicles aren't spawned out of no where by the game, they are actively purchased and skilled into by other players, all this community has ever seen from you is an attempt to remove a playstyle that you believe has wronged you somehow. Lv 3 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's

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