DUST Search - Meta Gaming 101 - Dust University (30/10/2013)

TrueXer0z wrote:

Ludvig Enraga wrote:

Naedeus wrote:

Banning Hammer wrote:

You...... have.......to......be......kidding..................................me.

So now Dust University teaches people how to create their own stories, so CCP don't have to ?

Teaching someone how to create their own story, and teaching someone the aspects of meta-gaming, are two different subjects. The latter is what this is about. Rather than jump to a negative conclusion, why don't you come out Wednesday night and see what it's actually about?

That's it. you presume you have something to teach other people to the point that you advertise it in a lecture format. I would not have said anything if this were not a pervasive pattern in your corp.

You make a valid point even if you were not trying to. There is no reason because it is labeled a lecture that I know anything about Meta Gaming. A lecture in itself is defined as: an educational talk to an audience, especially one of students in a university. I can say that I only speak from my own personal experiences and from factual information gained from almost 7 years on being a part of the New Eden Universe. The Lecture will include ideas and opinion base information and what facts that can be shared on the subject.

Normally I wouldn't feed a troll attempt, but I am going to use your statement to not only bump this post so others can see it and hopefully participate, but as you have already seen, explain a bit more about what the lecture will be about. You my friend are only now being used as a tool to further my ability to propagate (spread and promote) this event. Thus, Meta Gaming in the works all over this thread. Thank you for the help.

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daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 266	Posted - 2013.10.27 18:20:00 - [61] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Cute Dust University ... 6 man died to NPC Corp Show me your skills? Tasty Notice that suspicious looking line up of people from the same corp? You said I make up my stories, I show you Gallente is fked, thanks to your corp. I fail to see how 1 battle, is going to screw up an empire, personally I fight amarr so I don't really care if they go play gallente fw There is another screenshot from today, see up this thread. I guess you guys lose every fight .. so that's how you destroy an empire. They don't want you to fight for them ... go play Domination.
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 185	Posted - 2013.10.27 18:53:00 - [62] - Quote this is a great thing. I won't be there. I'll be topping the killboard in pubs or playing Planetary Conquest :p But I am really happy that this is a thing. Thanks for doing it. Wish it could get a spotlight and on DUST514's facebook feed
TrueXer0z DUST University Ivy League 215	Posted - 2013.10.27 19:05:00 - [63] - Quote ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: When I think "meta-gaming" I think scamming immediately. Scams are great. People on the lookout for scams or over doing them is not. I'm against this class on the sole purpose that you are going to possibly teach people how to look out for scams. Which is bad for my business. Thanks anyways lol you are right. Scamming is a big part of the meta gaming. And I will be covering scams in the lecture briefly. I myself haven't thought of many scams you could run in Dust so it might be limited. But I would welcome the perspective of a more experienced scammer during the Q&A open forum.
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 334	Posted - 2013.10.27 19:13:00 - [64] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: You...... have.......to......be......kidding..................................me. So now Dust University teaches people how to create their own stories, so CCP don't have to ? you do know this is the entire basis of eve online right? Player driven content. Not some stupid theampark bullshit like wow.
Reevira DUST University Ivy League 17	Posted - 2013.10.27 19:47:00 - [65] - Quote Bump! Dont miss this event ;)
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 616	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:49:00 - [66] - Quote Naedeus wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: You...... have.......to......be......kidding..................................me. So now Dust University teaches people how to create their own stories, so CCP don't have to ? Teaching someone how to create their own story, and teaching someone the aspects of meta-gaming, are two different subjects. The latter is what this is about. Rather than jump to a negative conclusion, why don't you come out Wednesday night and see what it's actually about? That's it. you presume you have something to teach other people to the point that you advertise it in a lecture format. I would not have said anything if this were not a pervasive pattern in your corp.
TrueXer0z DUST University Ivy League 215	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:20:00 - [67] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Naedeus wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: You...... have.......to......be......kidding..................................me. So now Dust University teaches people how to create their own stories, so CCP don't have to ? Teaching someone how to create their own story, and teaching someone the aspects of meta-gaming, are two different subjects. The latter is what this is about. Rather than jump to a negative conclusion, why don't you come out Wednesday night and see what it's actually about? That's it. you presume you have something to teach other people to the point that you advertise it in a lecture format. I would not have said anything if this were not a pervasive pattern in your corp. You make a valid point even if you were not trying to. There is no reason because it is labeled a lecture that I know anything about Meta Gaming. A lecture in itself is defined as: an educational talk to an audience, especially one of students in a university. I can say that I only speak from my own personal experiences and from factual information gained from almost 7 years on being a part of the New Eden Universe. The Lecture will include ideas and opinion base information and what facts that can be shared on the subject. Normally I wouldn't feed a troll attempt, but I am going to use your statement to not only bump this post so others can see it and hopefully participate, but as you have already seen, explain a bit more about what the lecture will be about. You my friend are only now being used as a tool to further my ability to propagate (spread and promote) this event. Thus, Meta Gaming in the works all over this thread. Thank you for the help.
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 336	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:29:00 - [68] - Quote Honestly I think D-Uni, and E-Uni should have their own official forum areas, but I doubt that would ever get setup for you guys. I know you get a lot of flack from some really speshul people but you guys do great things for eve and want to do great things for dust.
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 599	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:48:00 - [69] - Quote Thanks we try our best.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 619	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:55:00 - [70] - Quote TrueXer0z wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Naedeus wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: You...... have.......to......be......kidding..................................me. So now Dust University teaches people how to create their own stories, so CCP don't have to ? Teaching someone how to create their own story, and teaching someone the aspects of meta-gaming, are two different subjects. The latter is what this is about. Rather than jump to a negative conclusion, why don't you come out Wednesday night and see what it's actually about? That's it. you presume you have something to teach other people to the point that you advertise it in a lecture format. I would not have said anything if this were not a pervasive pattern in your corp. You make a valid point even if you were not trying to. There is no reason because it is labeled a lecture that I know anything about Meta Gaming. A lecture in itself is defined as: an educational talk to an audience, especially one of students in a university. I can say that I only speak from my own personal experiences and from factual information gained from almost 7 years on being a part of the New Eden Universe. The Lecture will include ideas and opinion base information and what facts that can be shared on the subject. Normally I wouldn't feed a troll attempt, but I am going to use your statement to not only bump this post so others can see it and hopefully participate, but as you have already seen, explain a bit more about what the lecture will be about. You my friend are only now being used as a tool to further my ability to propagate (spread and promote) this event. Thus, Meta Gaming in the works all over this thread. Thank you for the help. Jeez... How old are you? Bumping a post? Is this some kind of currency to you? you are that into attention grabbing? You advertise this as a lecture from a 'meta game veteran' and in the OP there is not even a vague hint of the content to give a potential insight to your possible audience if this is anything worth spending their time on. This is crude and superficial. There is gonna be no lecture, there is gonna be a promo show of another self-proclaimed Dust personality - that's my conclusion after taking a look at the post. Not that I care much but it's amusing to me how it's very much in the vein of Dust University's crusade to assert self-importance.

SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 338	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:10:00 - [71] - Quote So much hate for the uni, is this how EvE- uni started out as well?
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1722	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:23:00 - [72] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Last line....newtons 2nd law.....or was it 3rd? If you just say "newton's law" everybody will assume you know which one...
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 268	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:26:00 - [73] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: So much hate for the uni, is this how EvE- uni started out as well? There is no real uni in Dust right now.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1722	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:29:00 - [74] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: So much hate for the uni, is this how EvE- uni started out as well? It's funny really... how stupid do you have to be to hate on a corp set up to help new players learn about and participate in various aspects of the game?
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 621	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:22:00 - [75] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: SgtDoughnut wrote: So much hate for the uni, is this how EvE- uni started out as well? It's funny really... how stupid do you have to be to hate on a corp set up to help new players learn about and participate in various aspects of the game? Lol at 'set up'. The only thing I see them do on the forums is push forward various aspects of their agenda that has a lot to do with how this game is developed. How stupid do you have to be to buy into 'set up to help new players' thing.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 717	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:26:00 - [76] - Quote are you going to be like "The class fee is 10mil per merc, we will start when everyone pays" Get ISK, Leave the chat, don't come back Quick and simple lesson in meta-gaming...
Knight Soiaire Mercenaries of Sunlight 2814	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:43:00 - [77] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: I hate this corp. The highest concentration of fan boys per square inch. Full of pretentious BS too. Thanks for the awesome OP - the usual pretentious self-promotion. I fully agree and +1. These hypocrites should be kicked out of Dust and never come back again ... whole Dust University. Never had a good experience with those guys, when they were in my team or my opponents. Bad play, lack of teamplay, won't even let you join their half full squads and they cry like babies in forums. Gg no re I dont know if you're being serious..... But aren't you a redline tanker? Scattered Neutron, PG, 180mm Poly, Heavy IG-L, 2 Carapace, Active Heatsink II, Jovian Acc. You're welcome. Moar?. 6 Swarmers + OS and can't kill a single blaster maddy, gg. D-Uni should leave FW, you lose every game lol. You think showing me a random scoreboard, and listing the most popular tank fit for the Madrugar, is enough to convince me you're not a redline tanker? So, basically what you're trying to say by providing this image is that you only have the balls to bring out your blaster when fighting D-UNI? Thats cool.
TrueXer0z DUST University Ivy League 218	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:52:00 - [78] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: are you going to be like "The class fee is 10mil per merc, we will start when everyone pays" Get ISK, Leave the chat, don't come back Quick and simple lesson in meta-gaming... lol you forgot to add that right before I leave I say "Welcome to New Eden!"
Naedeus DUST University Ivy League 235	Posted - 2013.10.28 05:46:00 - [79] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Crash Monster wrote: SgtDoughnut wrote: So much hate for the uni, is this how EvE- uni started out as well? It's funny really... how stupid do you have to be to hate on a corp set up to help new players learn about and participate in various aspects of the game? Lol at 'set up'. The only thing I see them do on the forums is push forward various aspects of their agenda that has a lot to do with how this game is developed. How stupid do you have to be to buy into 'set up to help new players' thing.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 672	Posted - 2013.10.28 05:54:00 - [80] - Quote what is meta? I know it's a number and maybe it is how porwerful a weapon or equipment or module is?

daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 268	Posted - 2013.10.28 09:07:00 - [81] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: You think showing me a random scoreboard, and listing the most popular tank fit for the Madrugar, is enough to convince me you're not a redline tanker? So, basically what you're trying to say by providing this image is that you only have the balls to bring out your blaster when fighting D-UNI? Thats cool. I give a **** about convincing anybody, lol, I don't even know you and I couldn't care less for you. All I'm saying in this whole thread is, that D-uni is a bunch of hypocrites who should leave Dust for a better tomorrow.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 779	Posted - 2013.10.28 09:34:00 - [82] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: All I'm saying in this whole thread is, that D-uni is a bunch of hypocrites who should leave Dust for a better tomorrow. the irony. this is coming from the troll trying to derail the thread with his epic results of redline sniping next to his proto friends from Blauhelme when he is battling some new players with low SP in STD stuff you must feel real proud, do you?
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 268	Posted - 2013.10.28 09:55:00 - [83] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: All I'm saying in this whole thread is, that D-uni is a bunch of hypocrites who should leave Dust for a better tomorrow. the irony. this is coming from the troll trying to derail the thread with his epic results of redline sniping next to his proto friends from Blauhelme when he is battling some new players with low SP in STD stuff please tell us more and continue to amuse everyone. Don't be mad. Ask your friend how they failed to kill a single tank with six swarm launchers and orbital strikes while it was blasting through their rows ... I don't know. Your whole Dust University is a big tumor which needs to be removed for a better future. Edit: Oh, and yeah, the only STD gear I've seen was my tank.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1411	Posted - 2013.10.28 14:06:00 - [84] - Quote Here are my 2 ISK on Meta Game, for those who donGÇÖt quite understand what it is: Meta Game, Explained I am sure this will be extensively elaborated on at the lecture. ____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1061	Posted - 2013.10.28 14:17:00 - [85] - Quote The amount of hatred towards dust uni and complete misconception in this thread is disgusting.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1440	Posted - 2013.10.28 22:15:00 - [86] - Quote Allow me to point out a few things: -If there was no DUST University all those unskilled and inexperienced players would still be in DUST, they would simply be in a different Corp. -Since DUST University has such a large membership, it does 99% of its training in-house and talks about what they are doing on their own Corp forum, so people not in DUST University donGÇÖt really see 99% of what DUST University does. -This is, as far as I know, the first time DUST University has opened one of their lectures to the Public. I am not sure that this thread will encourage them to do so again. -I donGÇÖt personally know anyone in either DUST or EVE who is more qualified to speak about the Meta Game than TrueXer0z. Of course there are probably others who are more qualified, but I would not know them enough to vouch for them. Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
Cross Ragweed The Neutral Zone 7	Posted - 2013.10.28 23:01:00 - [87] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Allow me to point out a few things: -If there was no DUST University all those unskilled and inexperienced players would still be in DUST, they would simply be in a different Corp. -Since DUST University has such a large membership, it does 99% of its training in-house and talks about what they are doing on their own Corp forum, so people not in DUST University donGÇÖt really see 99% of what DUST University does. -This is, as far as I know, the first time DUST University has opened one of their lectures to the Public. I am not sure that this thread will encourage them to do so again. -I donGÇÖt personally know anyone in either DUST or EVE who is more qualified to speak about the Meta Game than TrueXer0z. Of course there are probably others who are more qualified, but I would not know them enough to vouch for them. Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013. I want to listen in, and appreciate the public invite ... thanks D-UNI!
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 348	Posted - 2013.10.29 00:32:00 - [88] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Allow me to point out a few things: -If there was no DUST University all those unskilled and inexperienced players would still be in DUST, they would simply be in a different Corp. -Since DUST University has such a large membership, it does 99% of its training in-house and talks about what they are doing on their own Corp forum, so people not in DUST University donGÇÖt really see 99% of what DUST University does. -This is, as far as I know, the first time DUST University has opened one of their lectures to the Public. I am not sure that this thread will encourage them to do so again. -I donGÇÖt personally know anyone in either DUST or EVE who is more qualified to speak about the Meta Game than TrueXer0z. Of course there are probably others who are more qualified, but I would not know them enough to vouch for them. Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013. Why people hat the uni I will never get, but EvE-uni gets the same hate on the forums, they do tons of public lectures.
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 603	Posted - 2013.10.29 10:30:00 - [89] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: So much hate for the uni, is this how EvE- uni started out as well? Yes. Still gets it because it teaches players how to avoid scams. The Scammers don't like that. Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot CEO of DUST University
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 280	Posted - 2013.10.29 11:22:00 - [90] - Quote I personally hate their behavior towards non-D-uni people, their hypocritical attitude, their so called "teaching", which is really BS (seriously, even new players squad up nowadays .. d-uni prefers to lock their 3man squad .. gg, best teaching), I hate that they call themself dust UNIVERSITY, while their leaders just want to run a mass-people corp, their playstyle, their writings, I hate their names, their dishonesty, I hate that they can't deal with criticism, I hate their tag, I hate Jack McReady, who opens BS threads in this forum all day long (as if there aren't enough) ... and so on, to name a few You are welcome.



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