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CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1293	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:27:00 - [1] - Quote So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 703	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:31:00 - [2] - Quote I don't think anyone in this forum will ever be happy, people already complaining about the new AR's... Happy for a week crying for 4 months...
ThePrinceOfNigeria Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 173	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:36:00 - [3] - Quote Only if I can get Forum Warrior proficiency level 5. Much more fun than actually playing the game itself.
DildoMcnutz Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 295	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:40:00 - [4] - Quote I Agree
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 534	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:42:00 - [5] - Quote I think at that point, they will have no choice but too hand out respecs.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1089	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:42:00 - [6] - Quote Anything to flame up the neckbeards and and their influence.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2116	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:46:00 - [7] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. RESPEC PLISSS +1
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 924	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:46:00 - [8] - Quote I used to be against respecs because I wanted the FOTM followers to pay for their actions. However, many other people would love a Respec and in the end it would be much more of a positive thing than a negative one. The new content release is the perfect chance. Not to mention that there are many players (those who joined during Uprising) who never had the chance to respec and they probably wasted precious SP into wrong skills. Instead, veterans already have proto everything, so I see this being actually more useful to newer players and just giving some "replay" value to seasoned ones, rather than making them even more OP. So... yes, I agree, Char.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1296	Posted - 2013.10.27 04:50:00 - [9] - Quote So....respec in 3.0?
Chad Michael Murray NECROM0NGERS 114	Posted - 2013.10.27 06:06:00 - [10] - Quote If there isn't a respec after the rest of the basic content is released I'll probably give up on all hope of Dust.

Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven 181	Posted - 2013.10.27 13:30:00 - [11] - Quote Yes I agree, because you should be able to pick which heavy, assault, logi, or scout you want, and as of now ppl were forced to spec into certain ones bc the rest weren't in game. Without a respec, ccp would have made this game really long and grindy, and then even worse made you grind and work forever for nothing, bc you used all your sp on the wrong suit. I currently am only speced fully into assault, speced into other suits to adv stage, but I worked way to hard and long for my sp and if I want to take sp out of minmitar scout and put it into amarr scout then by all right''s I should at least have that choice. And the main factor here and reason to justify the respec is this: ( BECAUSE I DIDNT HAVE A CHOICE THE FIRST TIME!!! )
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3284	Posted - 2013.10.27 13:37:00 - [12] - Quote Actually at EVE Vegas they said they are very close to releasing the remaining racial dropsuits (either 1.7 or 1.8), and part of the vehicle changes is making the skills generalist (one tank skill to unlock all tanks). In my opinion, the only reason they did the latter was because they want to give a respec to us, but only want to give us one and know there'd be an uproar if we had to wait for the remaining racial vehicles which aren't as close to releasing. Fairly certain we will see a respec pretty soon.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4291	Posted - 2013.10.27 13:41:00 - [13] - Quote Frankly we never should have been in a situation where we're in 'full release' but we don't even have all the basic content, or even the majority of it.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 269	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:31:00 - [14] - Quote prepares stock moar respects QQ response "Never. Respecs are a terribl...." looks over at a display of the Amarr scout suit and the other pretty new toys coming out "Ahem, sorry, what I meant to say was: I approve this message."
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 413	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:35:00 - [15] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: Yes I agree, because you should be able to pick which heavy, assault, logi, or scout you want, and as of now ppl were forced to spec into certain ones bc the rest weren't in game. Without a respec, ccp would have made this game really long and grindy, and then even worse made you grind and work forever for nothing, bc you used all your sp on the wrong suit. I currently am only speced fully into assault, speced into other suits to adv stage, but I worked way to hard and long for my sp and if I want to take sp out of minmitar scout and put it into amarr scout then by all right''s I should at least have that choice. And the main factor here and reason to justify the respec is this: ( BECAUSE I DIDNT HAVE A CHOICE THE FIRST TIME!!! ) How is the Mimmitar Scout? I was thinking about specing into them
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 402	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:39:00 - [16] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. I want a respec but this argument is sort of invalid because the very nature of this game means it should never be "finished". They will keep on adding stuff. Where does it end? When the Amarr MTAC comes out in 2016 but the rest don't until late 2017, does that mean another respec? Every time content is added are we supposed to allow a respec? Keep in mind I am in favor of respecs. Just curious as to everyone's opinion on this.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 978	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:42:00 - [17] - Quote I too have railed hard against respecs in the vein of MAG's respecs, though I would support a one-time respec for all characters with more than 2m SP once we have all of the basic content.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 413	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:44:00 - [18] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I too have railed hard against respecs in the vein of MAG's respecs, though I would support a one-time respec for all characters with more than 2m SP once we have all of the basic content. How about a respec option every 10m SP? 10m is way to long to be appealing to FOTM players
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 269	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:48:00 - [19] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. I want a respec but this argument is sort of invalid because the very nature of this game means it should never be "finished". They will keep on adding stuff. Where does it end? When the Amarr MTAC comes out in 2016 but the rest don't until late 2017, does that mean another respec? Every time content is added are we supposed to allow a respec? Keep in mind I am in favor of respecs. Just curious as to everyone's opinion on this. It's one thing when a couple weapons come out, another entirely when the basic line of suits is finally released and the long list of placeholder weapons sorts out, and vehicles are reworked all at the same time. I hate the concept of regular respecs as much as anyone, but this is change on a fairly massive scale. Honestly it could be considered the long overdue release of basic content and arguably mark the effective end of beta.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 979	Posted - 2013.10.27 15:57:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I too have railed hard against respecs in the vein of MAG's respecs, though I would support a one-time respec for all characters with more than 2m SP once we have all of the basic content. How about a respec option every 10m SP? 10m is way to long to be appealing to FOTM players IDK about that, it might not be the FOTM chasers choice, but it still would lessen the gravity of choices made. Remember, as time passes, characters grow wider and not taller.

Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3287	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:01:00 - [21] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. I want a respec but this argument is sort of invalid because the very nature of this game means it should never be "finished". They will keep on adding stuff. Where does it end? When the Amarr MTAC comes out in 2016 but the rest don't until late 2017, does that mean another respec? Every time content is added are we supposed to allow a respec? Keep in mind I am in favor of respecs. Just curious as to everyone's opinion on this. It's really not that hard to figure out. Give a respec when all the racial variety of current gear is out, that is step 1. Step 2 is don't release anything new until all racial variants are completed. Quite frankly they shouldn't release an Amarr MTAC without releasing the other three at the same time, as in your example. But even so, vehicle skills are becoming non-race specific so that solves that problem. Respec for new stuff? No Respec for stuff that is a racial variety of current gear and should of been in the game from the beginning? Yes
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7255	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:03:00 - [22] - Quote There are so many changes coming down the pipe, a respec is inevitable now. If CCP didn't want respecs after official release, they shouldn't have offered a respec after official release. With the looks of these changes, a full optional respec will be the only fair way of handling it without bogging CCP down for a month + trying to refund SP by hand (even more so than a full respec, which amusingly, still must be done by hand)
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1245	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:05:00 - [23] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. I want a respec but this argument is sort of invalid because the very nature of this game means it should never be "finished". They will keep on adding stuff. Where does it end? When the Amarr MTAC comes out in 2016 but the rest don't until late 2017, does that mean another respec? Every time content is added are we supposed to allow a respec? Keep in mind I am in favor of respecs. Just curious as to everyone's opinion on this. Racial Parity for all existing classes and roles of Dropsuits and Vehicles warrants a respec. Adding new classes and roles of Dropsuits and vehicles does not warrant a respec. Heavy and Scout Dropsuits are existing classes/roles with missing variants. No race currently has an MTAC, so this would be a new class/role. Which should only be added with all 4 Racial Variants.
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 210	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:12:00 - [24] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Actually at EVE Vegas they said they are very close to releasing the remaining racial dropsuits (either 1.7 or 1.8), and part of the vehicle changes is making the skills generalist (one tank skill to unlock all tanks). In my opinion, the only reason they did the latter was because they want to give a respec to us, but only want to give us one and know there'd be an uproar if we had to wait for the remaining racial vehicles which aren't as close to releasing. Fairly certain we will see a respec pretty soon. Yes thats correct, but as long as we dont have a timeframe it could be in 1.8 or 2.1 both could be accurat. We just have to wait and see.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3289	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:21:00 - [25] - Quote lordjanuz wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Actually at EVE Vegas they said they are very close to releasing the remaining racial dropsuits (either 1.7 or 1.8), and part of the vehicle changes is making the skills generalist (one tank skill to unlock all tanks). In my opinion, the only reason they did the latter was because they want to give a respec to us, but only want to give us one and know there'd be an uproar if we had to wait for the remaining racial vehicles which aren't as close to releasing. Fairly certain we will see a respec pretty soon. Yes thats correct, but as long as we dont have a timeframe it could be in 1.8 or 2.1 both could be accurat. We just have to wait and see. Just because I like enlightening people on this matter, version naming system are not decimals. For example, the following is not always correct, 1.8, 1.9, 2.0, 2.1 Instead, the following could happen, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10, 1.11 Basically the dots separate degrees of magnitude. The first number get updated with a major overhaul like it's almost a new product, the second number represents significant updates, a third number if present (e.g. v1.12.2) represents minor changes, and a fourth number is not really used conventionally. If the devs considered the update past 1.7 to be major enough, it could be 1.7, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2 For example. Hope that makes sense and informs at least one person Dust 514 itself will likely not get a v2.0 simply because for example the new update coming out is actually Dust 514: Uprising v1.6. When CCP gets to a point where they believe major changes have occurred, they will likely give it a new name, so Dust 514: [New Name] v1.0
Rei Shepard Spectre II 752	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:51:00 - [26] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: I think at that point, they will have no choice but to hand out respecs. It does sound fair that when the game is actually at Launch status, they give respecs so people can go to the faction they originally wanted to go to, but didnt have a suit for it yet. I mean its gotta suck for a heavy to need to spec into heavy for a second time to get the suit they now want. I would just spec back into amarr suits & Scramblers, because my 12 eve characters all being Amarr doesnt say enough that i am an amarr loyalist yet :p But i will defo try out the new Rail rifle aswell, but seeing its full auto its gonna be horrible to play with. (i suck with full auto guns)
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3290	Posted - 2013.10.27 16:54:00 - [27] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: I think at that point, they will have no choice but to hand out respecs. It does sound fair that when the game is actually at Launch status, they give respecs so people can go to the faction they originally wanted to go to, but didnt have a suit for it yet. I mean its gotta suck for a heavy to need to spec into heavy for a second time to get the suit they now want. I would just spec back into amarr suits & Scramblers, because my 12 eve characters all being Amarr doesnt say enough that i am an amarr loyalist yet :p But i will defo try out the new Rail rifle aswell, but seeing its full auto its gonna be horrible to play with. (i suck with full auto guns) It's really got to suck for a Gallentean who wants to be a heavy, since they have 0 representation in that department at all. Amarr: Heavy dropsuit Minmatar: Heavy HMG Caldari: Heavy Forge Gun Gallente: Nothing
Rei Shepard Spectre II 752	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:02:00 - [28] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: I think at that point, they will have no choice but to hand out respecs. It does sound fair that when the game is actually at Launch status, they give respecs so people can go to the faction they originally wanted to go to, but didnt have a suit for it yet. I mean its gotta suck for a heavy to need to spec into heavy for a second time to get the suit they now want. I would just spec back into amarr suits & Scramblers, because my 12 eve characters all being Amarr doesnt say enough that i am an amarr loyalist yet :p But i will defo try out the new Rail rifle aswell, but seeing its full auto its gonna be horrible to play with. (i suck with full auto guns) It's really got to suck for a Gallentean who wants to be a heavy, since they have 0 representation in that department at all. Amarr: Heavy dropsuit Minmatar: Heavy HMG Caldari: Heavy Forge Gun Gallente: Nothing Wow yeah, havent looked at it like that yet...the game really should have had all basics covered when it came out and not run behind itself with a SP system your stuck in at. They can easely do a 3 Reset counter per account, free to use whenever you want and it recharges 1 point every year.
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 267	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:03:00 - [29] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. I really wish i could skill up in heavies and get a respec and go minmatar or galante, damn this game it should be developed faster.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4310	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:04:00 - [30] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: I think at that point, they will have no choice but to hand out respecs. It does sound fair that when the game is actually at Launch status, they give respecs so people can go to the faction they originally wanted to go to, but didnt have a suit for it yet. I mean its gotta suck for a heavy to need to spec into heavy for a second time to get the suit they now want. I would just spec back into amarr suits & Scramblers, because my 12 eve characters all being Amarr doesnt say enough that i am an amarr loyalist yet :p But i will defo try out the new Rail rifle aswell, but seeing its full auto its gonna be horrible to play with. (i suck with full auto guns) It's really got to suck for a Gallentean who wants to be a heavy, since they have 0 representation in that department at all. Amarr: Heavy dropsuit Minmatar: Heavy HMG Caldari: Heavy Forge Gun Gallente: Nothing I want to be a heavy.

Green Living 0uter.Heaven 927	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:04:00 - [31] - Quote Just save your SP's now and by the time we get all the racial variants you will be able to skill into them. That is what I'm doing.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7255	Posted - 2013.10.27 17:07:00 - [32] - Quote Green Living wrote: Just save your SP's now and by the time we get all the racial variants you will be able to skill into them. That is what I'm doing. That's a terrible excuse. You shouldn't be forced to not play the game in order to gain access to basic things that should already be in the game. If you were talking about saving for some random future thing that might be added, hey, that's your call. Saying someone should do that for what should already be in the game is just foolish.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1309	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:34:00 - [33] - Quote This is when I want a respec: All racial rifles released. AM and GA heavy weapon released. All racial suits released (not including pilot suits) Since vehicles will be non-race specific skill to unlock, needing racial tank hulls is not necessary, nor is racial turret types BC ti ones we have now are cool enough, for the time being. But yeah, I don't think that we are too far away from having these things. I don't think the idea of regular respecs or no respects works. Uprising 1.1def needed it. We will need another coming up. Past they, I can't see q need but this is CCP and you never know. I'm sure Mango and Friends can get the community in enough of an uproar to get a respec. Anyone remember that General Crowd got us the first respec? Yup. Long time Mango friend, he is. We also got the AV and rifle changes petitions in full swing. Tanks were not mango. Tanks were just necessary. Lol. Anyway, possibly respec in 2.0 of CCP moves in a timely manner.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1289	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:39:00 - [34] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: This is when I want a respec: All racial rifles released. AM and GA heavy weapon released. All racial suits released (not including pilot suits) Since vehicles will be non-race specific skill to unlock, needing racial tank hulls is not necessary, nor is racial turret types BC ti ones we have now are cool enough, for the time being. But yeah, I don't think that we are too far away from having these things. I don't think the idea of regular respecs or no respects works. Uprising 1.1def needed it. We will need another coming up. Past they, I can't see q need but this is CCP and you never know. I'm sure Mango and Friends can get the community in enough of an uproar to get a respec. Anyone remember that General Crowd got us the first respec? Yup. Long time Mango friend, he is. We also got the AV and rifle changes petitions in full swing. Tanks were not mango. Tanks were just necessary. Lol. Anyway, possibly respec in 2.0 of CCP moves in a timely manner. Nope, still needs my Winmatar LAV and HAV, with the Autocannons, and my drones.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1310	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:40:00 - [35] - Quote Green Living wrote: Just save your SP's now and by the time we get all the racial variants you will be able to skill into them. That is what I'm doing. It's a back up plan and what most of the smart guys are doing, but honestly, not giving respects only hurts the new players. Old guys like us knew where to put our SP and giving us a respec might free up a couple million SP here or there and maybe a thousand guys or so would switch their main rifle from AR to something else but that's it. It'd bring some vets back too. FOTM chasers will always be at a disadvantage when their toys get nerfed so that isn't a problem (looking at the sixkin assault CR). People shouldn't be forced to be an amarr heavy with a MN heavy weapon BC they have no other choice. Part of why heavies suck is that the HMG is a weapon which requires players to close distance and the AM is awful at that. Plus a lot of people are waiting on CA qmd AM light suits. It really is a great idea and CCP will be forced by their community to do it again if ai choose to make it happen...we all will make it happen.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1310	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:41:00 - [36] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: This is when I want a respec: All racial rifles released. AM and GA heavy weapon released. All racial suits released (not including pilot suits) Since vehicles will be non-race specific skill to unlock, needing racial tank hulls is not necessary, nor is racial turret types BC ti ones we have now are cool enough, for the time being. But yeah, I don't think that we are too far away from having these things. I don't think the idea of regular respecs or no respects works. Uprising 1.1def needed it. We will need another coming up. Past they, I can't see q need but this is CCP and you never know. I'm sure Mango and Friends can get the community in enough of an uproar to get a respec. Anyone remember that General Crowd got us the first respec? Yup. Long time Mango friend, he is. We also got the AV and rifle changes petitions in full swing. Tanks were not mango. Tanks were just necessary. Lol. Anyway, possibly respec in 2.0 of CCP moves in a timely manner. Nope, still needs my Winmatar LAV and HAV, with the Autocannons, and my drones. Waiting on my MN HAV with artillery turret with 2 date mods, hardener, and a nitros.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1289	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:44:00 - [37] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: This is when I want a respec: All racial rifles released. AM and GA heavy weapon released. All racial suits released (not including pilot suits) Since vehicles will be non-race specific skill to unlock, needing racial tank hulls is not necessary, nor is racial turret types BC ti ones we have now are cool enough, for the time being. But yeah, I don't think that we are too far away from having these things. I don't think the idea of regular respecs or no respects works. Uprising 1.1def needed it. We will need another coming up. Past they, I can't see q need but this is CCP and you never know. I'm sure Mango and Friends can get the community in enough of an uproar to get a respec. Anyone remember that General Crowd got us the first respec? Yup. Long time Mango friend, he is. We also got the AV and rifle changes petitions in full swing. Tanks were not mango. Tanks were just necessary. Lol. Anyway, possibly respec in 2.0 of CCP moves in a timely manner. Nope, still needs my Winmatar LAV and HAV, with the Autocannons, and my drones. Waiting on my MN HAV with artillery turret with 2 date mods, hardener, and a nitros. date?
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 768	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:46:00 - [38] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. how do racial variants change the purchases you've already made with your sp?
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 274	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:25:00 - [39] - Quote Geez would you guys please stop asking for respecs? How about you save some of that SP and then get the new stuff when it comes out? But hey every 1 appearently needs AR proficency 5 instead of a new suit, core upgrades or other much more usefull stuff.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1910	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:40:00 - [40] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111

CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1313	Posted - 2013.10.27 21:55:00 - [41] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111 Either way. Heavies and scouts will be due for a respec soon(TM).
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3671	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:00:00 - [42] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Yup I needs to happen when all core content comes out.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1040	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:11:00 - [43] - Quote ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote: Only if I can get Forum Warrior proficiency level 5. Much more fun than actually playing the game itself. You need 4816 more likes.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3302	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:30:00 - [44] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111 Situation: Totally Revamped Vehicle Skill Tree Why a full respec? Because it creates new SP sinks, and had you known about these SP sinks you may not of spent as many points in infantry. Situation: Racial dropsuits Why a full respec? Because the different suits have different slot layouts and CPU/PG values as well as bonuses that are geared more towards different playstyles. All of these factors directly impact the skills you would of invested in and are not necessarily the same between say a Gallente Scout and a Caldari Scout. If they release the new dropsuits with the new vehicles and rifles in 1.7, then that could be the final respec ever and we wouldn't need any more.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3674	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:36:00 - [45] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111 Situation: Totally Revamped Vehicle Skill Tree Why a full respec? Because it creates new SP sinks, and had you known about these SP sinks you may not of spent as many points in infantry. Situation: Racial dropsuits Why a full respec? Because the different suits have different slot layouts and CPU/PG values as well as bonuses that are geared more towards different playstyles. All of these factors directly impact the skills you would of invested in and are not necessarily the same between say a Gallente Scout and a Caldari Scout. If they release the new dropsuits with the new vehicles and rifles in 1.7, then that could be the final respec ever and we wouldn't need any more. PREACH THE WORD BROTHER AMEN TO THAT!
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 828	Posted - 2013.10.27 22:42:00 - [46] - Quote I want a RESET, f*** protostomping, welcome to new players.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1320	Posted - 2013.10.28 00:14:00 - [47] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111 Situation: Totally Revamped Vehicle Skill Tree Why a full respec? Because it creates new SP sinks, and had you known about these SP sinks you may not of spent as many points in infantry. Situation: Racial dropsuits Why a full respec? Because the different suits have different slot layouts and CPU/PG values as well as bonuses that are geared more towards different playstyles. All of these factors directly impact the skills you would of invested in and are not necessarily the same between say a Gallente Scout and a Caldari Scout. If they release the new dropsuits with the new vehicles and rifles in 1.7, then that could be the final respec ever and we wouldn't need any more. Bamcis. I'm against the idea of constant respects BC it ruins the immersion we are looking for. However, I'm against being locked into a single role because I had no other choice when other players did in their field of play (heavoes forced RL be amarr with BMG when assaults can have anything). So if vehicle hulls remain locked within the HAV Operation to use, then when we have all racial suits, 4 heavy weapons (one per race), and all racial pistols, rifles, and SMG variants, and the precision rifle (MN sniper), then I want one more respec....unless CCPddecides to completely change everything...again. Right now, the medium frame users just get the biggest advantage BC they have the most choices. (I use a medium suit). Yup. The community deserves another respec.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 943	Posted - 2013.10.28 00:28:00 - [48] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. When we have these, it warrants a respec: All racial variants for assault rifles (CA and MN), light (AM and CA) and heavy suits (GA, MN, CA) heavy weapons (GA and AM), aSMG (CA, GA, AM), and precision rifle (MN sniper). Only if vehicle skills become race specific would all racial variants of vehicles be required in this criteria, as the proposed changes requires HAV Operation 1 to pilot either Gunlogi or Madrugar. Personally, I like this, but if it allows access to all HAVs it should requirepre SP to spec up than a drop suit. The problem is that all of the racial suits/weapons will NEVER come out, until this game's very last breath. There will continue to be more and more content (that is, if they release it faster than "SoonTM") as the story of New Eden unravels.
Sparta447 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 3	Posted - 2013.10.29 21:44:00 - [49] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. When we have these, it warrants a respec: All racial variants for assault rifles (CA and MN), light (AM and CA) and heavy suits (GA, MN, CA) heavy weapons (GA and AM), aSMG (CA, GA, AM), and precision rifle (MN sniper). Only if vehicle skills become race specific would all racial variants of vehicles be required in this criteria, as the proposed changes requires HAV Operation 1 to pilot either Gunlogi or Madrugar. Personally, I like this, but if it allows access to all HAVs it should requirepre SP to spec up than a drop suit. If there isnt a respec any time soon after the racial variant stuff comes out i quit dust :D


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