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Green Living
0uter.Heaven
927
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:04:00 -
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Just save your SP's now and by the time we get all the racial variants you will be able to skill into them. That is what I'm doing. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7255
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Posted - 2013.10.27 17:07:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Just save your SP's now and by the time we get all the racial variants you will be able to skill into them. That is what I'm doing. That's a terrible excuse. You shouldn't be forced to not play the game in order to gain access to basic things that should already be in the game.
If you were talking about saving for some random future thing that might be added, hey, that's your call. Saying someone should do that for what should already be in the game is just foolish. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1309
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Posted - 2013.10.27 20:34:00 -
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This is when I want a respec: All racial rifles released. AM and GA heavy weapon released. All racial suits released (not including pilot suits)
Since vehicles will be non-race specific skill to unlock, needing racial tank hulls is not necessary, nor is racial turret types BC ti ones we have now are cool enough, for the time being.
But yeah, I don't think that we are too far away from having these things.
I don't think the idea of regular respecs or no respects works. Uprising 1.1def needed it. We will need another coming up. Past they, I can't see q need but this is CCP and you never know.
I'm sure Mango and Friends can get the community in enough of an uproar to get a respec. Anyone remember that General Crowd got us the first respec? Yup. Long time Mango friend, he is. We also got the AV and rifle changes petitions in full swing.
Tanks were not mango. Tanks were just necessary. Lol.
Anyway, possibly respec in 2.0 of CCP moves in a timely manner. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1289
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Posted - 2013.10.27 20:39:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:This is when I want a respec: All racial rifles released. AM and GA heavy weapon released. All racial suits released (not including pilot suits)
Since vehicles will be non-race specific skill to unlock, needing racial tank hulls is not necessary, nor is racial turret types BC ti ones we have now are cool enough, for the time being.
But yeah, I don't think that we are too far away from having these things.
I don't think the idea of regular respecs or no respects works. Uprising 1.1def needed it. We will need another coming up. Past they, I can't see q need but this is CCP and you never know.
I'm sure Mango and Friends can get the community in enough of an uproar to get a respec. Anyone remember that General Crowd got us the first respec? Yup. Long time Mango friend, he is. We also got the AV and rifle changes petitions in full swing.
Tanks were not mango. Tanks were just necessary. Lol.
Anyway, possibly respec in 2.0 of CCP moves in a timely manner.
Nope, still needs my Winmatar LAV and HAV, with the Autocannons, and my drones. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1310
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Posted - 2013.10.27 20:40:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Just save your SP's now and by the time we get all the racial variants you will be able to skill into them. That is what I'm doing.
It's a back up plan and what most of the smart guys are doing, but honestly, not giving respects only hurts the new players. Old guys like us knew where to put our SP and giving us a respec might free up a couple million SP here or there and maybe a thousand guys or so would switch their main rifle from AR to something else but that's it. It'd bring some vets back too.
FOTM chasers will always be at a disadvantage when their toys get nerfed so that isn't a problem (looking at the sixkin assault CR).
People shouldn't be forced to be an amarr heavy with a MN heavy weapon BC they have no other choice. Part of why heavies suck is that the HMG is a weapon which requires players to close distance and the AM is awful at that. Plus a lot of people are waiting on CA qmd AM light suits.
It really is a great idea and CCP will be forced by their community to do it again if ai choose to make it happen...we all will make it happen. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1310
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Posted - 2013.10.27 20:41:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:This is when I want a respec: All racial rifles released. AM and GA heavy weapon released. All racial suits released (not including pilot suits)
Since vehicles will be non-race specific skill to unlock, needing racial tank hulls is not necessary, nor is racial turret types BC ti ones we have now are cool enough, for the time being.
But yeah, I don't think that we are too far away from having these things.
I don't think the idea of regular respecs or no respects works. Uprising 1.1def needed it. We will need another coming up. Past they, I can't see q need but this is CCP and you never know.
I'm sure Mango and Friends can get the community in enough of an uproar to get a respec. Anyone remember that General Crowd got us the first respec? Yup. Long time Mango friend, he is. We also got the AV and rifle changes petitions in full swing.
Tanks were not mango. Tanks were just necessary. Lol.
Anyway, possibly respec in 2.0 of CCP moves in a timely manner. Nope, still needs my Winmatar LAV and HAV, with the Autocannons, and my drones.
Waiting on my MN HAV with artillery turret with 2 date mods, hardener, and a nitros. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1289
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Posted - 2013.10.27 20:44:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:This is when I want a respec: All racial rifles released. AM and GA heavy weapon released. All racial suits released (not including pilot suits)
Since vehicles will be non-race specific skill to unlock, needing racial tank hulls is not necessary, nor is racial turret types BC ti ones we have now are cool enough, for the time being.
But yeah, I don't think that we are too far away from having these things.
I don't think the idea of regular respecs or no respects works. Uprising 1.1def needed it. We will need another coming up. Past they, I can't see q need but this is CCP and you never know.
I'm sure Mango and Friends can get the community in enough of an uproar to get a respec. Anyone remember that General Crowd got us the first respec? Yup. Long time Mango friend, he is. We also got the AV and rifle changes petitions in full swing.
Tanks were not mango. Tanks were just necessary. Lol.
Anyway, possibly respec in 2.0 of CCP moves in a timely manner. Nope, still needs my Winmatar LAV and HAV, with the Autocannons, and my drones. Waiting on my MN HAV with artillery turret with 2 date mods, hardener, and a nitros.
date? |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
768
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Posted - 2013.10.27 20:46:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy.
how do racial variants change the purchases you've already made with your sp? |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
274
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:25:00 -
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Geez would you guys please stop asking for respecs? How about you save some of that SP and then get the new stuff when it comes out? But hey every 1 appearently needs AR proficency 5 instead of a new suit, core upgrades or other much more usefull stuff. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1910
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:40:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy.
Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc.
Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111 |
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1313
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:55:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111
Either way. Heavies and scouts will be due for a respec soon(TM).
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3671
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:00:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy.
Yup I needs to happen when all core content comes out. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
1040
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:11:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Only if I can get Forum Warrior proficiency level 5. Much more fun than actually playing the game itself.
You need 4816 more likes. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3302
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:30:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111 Situation: Totally Revamped Vehicle Skill Tree Why a full respec? Because it creates new SP sinks, and had you known about these SP sinks you may not of spent as many points in infantry.
Situation: Racial dropsuits Why a full respec? Because the different suits have different slot layouts and CPU/PG values as well as bonuses that are geared more towards different playstyles. All of these factors directly impact the skills you would of invested in and are not necessarily the same between say a Gallente Scout and a Caldari Scout.
If they release the new dropsuits with the new vehicles and rifles in 1.7, then that could be the final respec ever and we wouldn't need any more. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3674
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:36:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111 Situation: Totally Revamped Vehicle Skill Tree Why a full respec? Because it creates new SP sinks, and had you known about these SP sinks you may not of spent as many points in infantry. Situation: Racial dropsuits Why a full respec? Because the different suits have different slot layouts and CPU/PG values as well as bonuses that are geared more towards different playstyles. All of these factors directly impact the skills you would of invested in and are not necessarily the same between say a Gallente Scout and a Caldari Scout. If they release the new dropsuits with the new vehicles and rifles in 1.7, then that could be the final respec ever and we wouldn't need any more.
PREACH THE WORD BROTHER AMEN TO THAT! |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
828
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Posted - 2013.10.27 22:42:00 -
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I want a RESET, f*** protostomping, welcome to new players. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1320
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Posted - 2013.10.28 00:14:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy. Only partial respecs for equivalent gear. AR respecs for the racial rifles, light frame respecs for racial scouts etc etc. Beyond that OMFGNORESPECSEVAR!!!!!1111 Situation: Totally Revamped Vehicle Skill Tree Why a full respec? Because it creates new SP sinks, and had you known about these SP sinks you may not of spent as many points in infantry. Situation: Racial dropsuits Why a full respec? Because the different suits have different slot layouts and CPU/PG values as well as bonuses that are geared more towards different playstyles. All of these factors directly impact the skills you would of invested in and are not necessarily the same between say a Gallente Scout and a Caldari Scout. If they release the new dropsuits with the new vehicles and rifles in 1.7, then that could be the final respec ever and we wouldn't need any more.
Bamcis.
I'm against the idea of constant respects BC it ruins the immersion we are looking for.
However, I'm against being locked into a single role because I had no other choice when other players did in their field of play (heavoes forced RL be amarr with BMG when assaults can have anything).
So if vehicle hulls remain locked within the HAV Operation to use, then when we have all racial suits, 4 heavy weapons (one per race), and all racial pistols, rifles, and SMG variants, and the precision rifle (MN sniper), then I want one more respec....unless CCPddecides to completely change everything...again.
Right now, the medium frame users just get the biggest advantage BC they have the most choices. (I use a medium suit).
Yup. The community deserves another respec. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
943
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Posted - 2013.10.28 00:28:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy.
When we have these, it warrants a respec:
All racial variants for assault rifles (CA and MN), light (AM and CA) and heavy suits (GA, MN, CA) heavy weapons (GA and AM), aSMG (CA, GA, AM), and precision rifle (MN sniper).
Only if vehicle skills become race specific would all racial variants of vehicles be required in this criteria, as the proposed changes requires HAV Operation 1 to pilot either Gunlogi or Madrugar. Personally, I like this, but if it allows access to all HAVs it should requirepre SP to spec up than a drop suit. The problem is that all of the racial suits/weapons will NEVER come out, until this game's very last breath. There will continue to be more and more content (that is, if they release it faster than "SoonTM") as the story of New Eden unravels. |
Sparta447
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
3
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Posted - 2013.10.29 21:44:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:So does everyone agree that when we have all racial variants for all vehicle types and suits, we should all get a respec? I really don't see how it'd be a bad idea. I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy.
When we have these, it warrants a respec:
All racial variants for assault rifles (CA and MN), light (AM and CA) and heavy suits (GA, MN, CA) heavy weapons (GA and AM), aSMG (CA, GA, AM), and precision rifle (MN sniper).
Only if vehicle skills become race specific would all racial variants of vehicles be required in this criteria, as the proposed changes requires HAV Operation 1 to pilot either Gunlogi or Madrugar. Personally, I like this, but if it allows access to all HAVs it should requirepre SP to spec up than a drop suit.
If there isnt a respec any time soon after the racial variant stuff comes out i quit dust :D |
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