Just make my HMG good

Just make my HMG good

And currently they aren't planning on removing the burst AR and TAR like was promised.

Not a rant just shakes head at what I read.

So more AR variants?....lol!!

Its not like heavys been asking for more HEAVY weapons...right?
So instead of new laser, mass driver, plasma cannon, shotguns, SMG variants??

Right now an AR outranges a laser...lol!!
And basic laser, advanced and proto all have 17 for damage...lol!!

But hey!! lets give a range BUFF to ARs??

Going to wait and see in November but its looking like playtime in Dust is over unless its medium suit and AR.


Whats in November?
PS4.

They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.

Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff.

Since when does the AR have a 20m optimal window??
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did they say that was the extent of the gun changes, or are you just a silly ass?

You were saying the AR outranges the LR not that it has a bigger optimal range. Get your facts straight.

I am saying at 70m or a bit farther in laser optimal that if Kane Freya is using a laser and Tech Ohm is running a Duvolle AR then its a dead Kane.

The TAR is staying I know that 100% because CCP said they are taking 10 meters of range from it when they release the racial rifles.

Oh wait I read your post wrong. Sorry.

Oh and all the racial rifles are supposed to have an assault, burst, tactical, and breach variant.

That wasn't the plan in the past. The burst was the placeholder for the minmatar weapon, and the tar was the placeholder for the rail.

I mean I suppose we could just add more guns instead, but then you have to balance 16 rifles. Making sure all of them fill a roll, are useful, or just completely made obsolete by one of the other rifles.

Or there could be 4 Full auto guns all with there advantages and disadvantages, and 4 Specialized rifles for each race. Brust/charge/breach/brust

For fun we can add in the missing variants as officer gear. I'm ok with that. but then the current blaster AR needs a charge up shot and then so does the minmatar one, *how does that work*

The ARs variant of the Scrambler rifle is the TAC.

Can people just shut the **** up when complaining about everything and anything that has to do with this game. Its like daily there's at least 7 different threads where people bitching about this games features and im tired of seeing these posts. If you don't like a feature or update of the game then **** off for a while and come back when they've released the following update. Better yet shut up complaining and actually play with one of the assault rifles, you might actually enjoy it.

The standard LR (Key word here is STANDARD since the range goes up through the tiers) has an optimal range from 66-85m while the Duvolle AR has 71 m EFFECTIVE RANGE meaning that at 71m the AR is only doing like 20% of it's full damage. Stop pulling shit out of your ass and give some real non biased information.

Nonbiased??
Looks at killfeed Ar, AR, AR,,lol!

At 85 m my Duvolle can put you down with your laser.

Duvolle AR damage>>>>>>>>>>>laser damage.
My point was that the AR is getting a range buff.........lol!!

Just shut up Kane.

It's bullshit that with Heavy only having 2 weapons since the game fuckin started that we still haven't had any new weapons.

And it's bullshit that the next new weapons, not one is a Heavy Weapon.

Just shut the **** up.

Not a rant just shakes head at what I read.

So more AR variants?....lol!!

Its not like heavys been asking for more HEAVY weapons...right?
So instead of new laser, mass driver, plasma cannon, shotguns, SMG variants??

Right now an AR outranges a laser...lol!!
And basic laser, advanced and proto all have 17 for damage...lol!!

But hey!! lets give a range BUFF to ARs??

Going to wait and see in November but its looking like playtime in Dust is over unless its medium suit and AR.


Whats in November?
PS4.

We finally get new weapons and people complain...

The sooner these come out the sooner CCP can balance them and move onto new heavy weapons. Light weapons can be used by everyone, heavy weapons only by heavies, so these have the broadest appeal. I agree we need more variety in heavy weapons, heavy suits need love, as do scouts, but it makes sense to focus on the things that will affect the most players first.

We finally get new weapons and people complain...

The sooner these come out the sooner CCP can balance them and move onto new heavy weapons. Light weapons can be used by everyone, heavy weapons only by heavies, so these have the broadest appeal. I agree we need more variety in heavy weapons, heavy suits need love, as do scouts, but it makes sense to focus on the things that will affect the most players first.

I'm not even arguing about the lack of heavy weapons so how about you shut the fuck up little prick.

We finally get new weapons and people complain...

The sooner these come out the sooner CCP can balance them and move onto new heavy weapons. Light weapons can be used by everyone, heavy weapons only by heavies, so these have the broadest appeal. I agree we need more variety in heavy weapons, heavy suits need love, as do scouts, but it makes sense to focus on the things that will affect the most players first.

We finally get new weapons and people complain...

The sooner these come out the sooner CCP can balance them and move onto new heavy weapons. Light weapons can be used by everyone, heavy weapons only by heavies, so these have the broadest appeal. I agree we need more variety in heavy weapons, heavy suits need love, as do scouts, but it makes sense to focus on the things that will affect the most players first.

Never said you were arguing over heavy weapons.

So i say again,

Shut the **** up Kane.

You finally get new weapons *again.

Exactly how many Light Weapons are there?

Why again do you need more light weapons, as opposed to only having two?

Why is it the Heavy suit is so underused?

Oh yea....it's had 2 weapons for eternity, no Heavy Grenade, an absolutely useless bonus on our suit, with a **** poor one to complement it AND we get to sacrifice having equipment slots just so we can use all the **** that doesn't exist yet. Why the hell would anyone WANT to spec into it knowing its a ******* deadend from the getgo.

**** your light weapons bro.

How about instead of adding more heavy weapons right now why not fix the current weapons it has and the heavy suit in general.

Reported you for a valid complaint. Those are not allowed on the forums.

Preach bro.

I gave up on my HMG.

Now most times I rather run a gimped laser instead of an ar.

I have been assault since day 1, even during the reign of the Creodon AR and 'Whiplash' locus grenades (most closed beta vets remember these) andeven I have to admit that the heavy class gets sh!tted on the most. Ever since they nerfed them after Codex ( I believe that was that build's name), they have never been the same.

One racial suit to choose from? Only 2 heavy-specific weapons to choose from? CCP committed a HUGE injustice to that class, yet continues to keep "hush hush" about their intentions for that class. No amount of CPM and/or dev reply can justify the validity of that. Period.

If anything, instead of including more AR's, that patch should include the remaining racial heavy weapons at the least, follwed by the release of the remaining racial suits soon after. CCP needs to open their eyes on this. You have had patient heavies requesting something...ANYTHING in the form of a response as to why they haven't been implemented yet.

Yet nothing.

Priorities are set wrong and hopefully heavies get what they have been waiting so patiently for soon.

Oh and scouts are in the same position. Stop beefing up assaults, CCP and start catering towards your other classes, specifically heavy and scout. It's about time they got excited about SOMETHING.

They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.

Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff.

They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.

Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff.

Not a rant just shakes head at what I read.

So more AR variants?....lol!!

Its not like heavys been asking for more HEAVY weapons...right?
So instead of new laser, mass driver, plasma cannon, shotguns, SMG variants??

Right now an AR outranges a laser...lol!!
And basic laser, advanced and proto all have 17 for damage...lol!!

But hey!! lets give a range BUFF to ARs??

Going to wait and see in November but its looking like playtime in Dust is over unless its medium suit and AR.


Whats in November?
PS4.

lolheavies, aka The Triceraheavydon: A species that existed in the DUST 514 / EVE universe, but are no longer with us today. Having no ability to protect itself against all predators. Having to resort to using long range attacks this class or species, just prolonged its faith, and died out slowly and agonizing.

Let's a take a minute to remember the heavy class.

*looks at watch, and proceeds to wait 60 seconds*

Even heavies with 1100 armour go down easily, I reckon it's the weapons that let the class down but I don't play as a heavy.

All I can say is, why the fk are there 1000 new ARs with only 1 heavy suit and 1 heavy weapon out??

Can people just shut the **** up when complaining about everything and anything that has to do with this game. Its like daily there's at least 7 different threads where people bitching about this games features and im tired of seeing these posts. If you don't like a feature or update of the game then **** off for a while and come back when they've released the following update. Better yet shut up complaining and actually play with one of the assault rifles, you might actually enjoy it.

The AR does NOT out-range or even match the range of a laser rifle.

the ar does outrange the laser rifle. you should test it before you make comments like that.

What matters is whether the DPS matches up. From the front to middle of the Laser Rifle's optimal, the AR does comparable damage. The Laser out damages it if it manages to heat up, though. As a Laser Rifle user, I almost never die to other Laser Rifle users, even when I switch to Assault Rifles, because I know how they work. I just back up 5m and they go back to dealing 2 points of damage a shot.

What matters is whether the DPS matches up. From the front to middle of the Laser Rifle's optimal, the AR does comparable damage. The Laser out damages it if it manages to heat up, though. As a Laser Rifle user, I almost never die to other Laser Rifle users, even when I switch to Assault Rifles, because I know how they work. I just back up 5m and they go back to dealing 2 points of damage a shot.

what matters is that my damage stops at 90, and his damage continues until 105.

I actually agree that CCP has prefference for assault rifles. And agree that they treat The HMG like he's adopted and rented out to the lowest bidder. There is something extremely wrong when 70% of the heavies out there are using some other form of non heavy weapon. 20% are using forge guns vs Vehicles and 10% are the actual hardcore HMG users who still have hope.


I stick to my plasma cannon. So balanced it will never get nerfed ;)

And currently they aren't planning on removing the burst AR and TAR like was promised.

I actually agree that CCP has prefference for assault rifles. And agree that they treat The HMG like he's adopted and rented out to the lowest bidder. There is something extremely wrong when 70% of the heavies out there are using some other form of non heavy weapon. 20% are using forge guns vs Vehicles and 10% are the actual hardcore HMG users who still have hope.


I stick to my plasma cannon. So balanced it will never get nerfed ;)