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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:20:00 -
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Not a rant just shakes head at what I read.
So more AR variants?....lol!!
Its not like heavys been asking for more HEAVY weapons...right? So instead of new laser, mass driver, plasma cannon, shotguns, SMG variants??
Right now an AR outranges a laser...lol!! And basic laser, advanced and proto all have 17 for damage...lol!!
But hey!! lets give a range BUFF to ARs??
Going to wait and see in November but its looking like playtime in Dust is over unless its medium suit and AR.
Whats in November? PS4. |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
200
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:23:00 -
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Leave it to a EVE/DUST player to find something to complain. I find this ability most amusing. |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4908
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:24:00 -
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Just make my HMG good |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1922
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:24:00 -
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And currently they aren't planning on removing the burst AR and TAR like was promised. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
704
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:26:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Just make my HMG good
Reported you for a valid complaint. Those are not allowed on the forums. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
894
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:26:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Just make my HMG good
Preach bro.
I gave up on my HMG.
Now most times I rather run a gimped laser instead of an ar.
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2128
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:27:00 -
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They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.
Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2128
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:28:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:And currently they aren't planning on removing the burst AR and TAR like was promised. The TAR is staying I know that 100% because CCP said they are taking 10 meters of range from it when they release the racial rifles. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
755
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:29:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Not a rant just shakes head at what I read.
So more AR variants?....lol!!
Its not like heavys been asking for more HEAVY weapons...right? So instead of new laser, mass driver, plasma cannon, shotguns, SMG variants??
Right now an AR outranges a laser...lol!! And basic laser, advanced and proto all have 17 for damage...lol!!
But hey!! lets give a range BUFF to ARs??
Going to wait and see in November but its looking like playtime in Dust is over unless its medium suit and AR.
Whats in November? PS4.
did they say that was the extent of the gun changes, or are you just a silly ass? |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
897
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:30:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.
Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff.
Since when does the AR have a 20m optimal window?? AR514 |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2128
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:31:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.
Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff. Since when does the AR have a 20m optimal window?? AR514 You were saying the AR outranges the LR not that it has a bigger optimal range. Get your facts straight. Also in that optimal range the LR can get a lot more DPS then the AR ever can. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
897
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:32:00 -
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low genius wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Not a rant just shakes head at what I read.
So more AR variants?....lol!!
Its not like heavys been asking for more HEAVY weapons...right? So instead of new laser, mass driver, plasma cannon, shotguns, SMG variants??
Right now an AR outranges a laser...lol!! And basic laser, advanced and proto all have 17 for damage...lol!!
But hey!! lets give a range BUFF to ARs??
Going to wait and see in November but its looking like playtime in Dust is over unless its medium suit and AR.
Whats in November? PS4. did they say that was the extent of the gun changes, or are you just a silly ass?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117279&find=unread |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
897
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:35:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.
Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff. Since when does the AR have a 20m optimal window?? AR514 You were saying the AR outranges the LR not that it has a bigger optimal range. Get your facts straight.
I am saying at 70m or a bit farther in laser optimal that if Kane Freya is using a laser and Tech Ohm is running a Duvolle AR then its a dead Kane.
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2129
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:40:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.
Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff. Since when does the AR have a 20m optimal window?? AR514 You were saying the AR outranges the LR not that it has a bigger optimal range. Get your facts straight. I am saying at 70m or a bit farther in laser optimal that if Kane Freya is using a laser and Tech Ohm is running a Duvolle AR then its a dead Kane. The standard LR (Key word here is STANDARD since the range goes up through the tiers) has an optimal range from 66-85m while the Duvolle AR has 71 m EFFECTIVE RANGE meaning that at 71m the AR is only doing like 20% of it's full damage. Stop pulling shit out of your ass and give some real non biased information. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1924
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:41:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:And currently they aren't planning on removing the burst AR and TAR like was promised. The TAR is staying I know that 100% because CCP said they are taking 10 meters of range from it when they release the racial rifles. Oh wait I read your post wrong. Sorry. Oh and all the racial rifles are supposed to have an assault, burst, tactical, and breach variant. That wasn't the plan in the past. The burst was the placeholder for the minmatar weapon, and the tar was the placeholder for the rail.
I mean I suppose we could just add more guns instead, but then you have to balance 16 rifles. Making sure all of them fill a roll, are useful, or just completely made obsolete by one of the other rifles.
Or there could be 4 Full auto guns all with there advantages and disadvantages, and 4 Specialized rifles for each race. Brust/charge/breach/brust
For fun we can add in the missing variants as officer gear. I'm ok with that. but then the current blaster AR needs a charge up shot and then so does the minmatar one, *how does that work* |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2129
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:42:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:And currently they aren't planning on removing the burst AR and TAR like was promised. The TAR is staying I know that 100% because CCP said they are taking 10 meters of range from it when they release the racial rifles. Oh wait I read your post wrong. Sorry. Oh and all the racial rifles are supposed to have an assault, burst, tactical, and breach variant. That wasn't the plan in the past. The burst was the placeholder for the minmatar weapon, and the tar was the placeholder for the rail. I mean I suppose we could just add more guns instead, but then you have to balance 16 rifles. Making sure all of them fill a roll, are useful, or just completely made obsolete by one of the other rifles. Or there could be 4 Full auto guns all with there advantages and disadvantages, and 4 Specialized rifles for each race. Brust/charge/breach/brust For fun we can add in the missing variants as officer gear. I'm ok with that. but then the current blaster AR needs a charge up shot and then so does the minmatar one, *how does that work* The ARs variant of the Scrambler rifle is the TAC. |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
367
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:45:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:And currently they aren't planning on removing the burst AR and TAR like was promised. The TAR is staying I know that 100% because CCP said they are taking 10 meters of range from it when they release the racial rifles. Oh wait I read your post wrong. Sorry. Oh and all the racial rifles are supposed to have an assault, burst, tactical, and breach variant. That wasn't the plan in the past. The burst was the placeholder for the minmatar weapon, and the tar was the placeholder for the rail. I mean I suppose we could just add more guns instead, but then you have to balance 16 rifles. Making sure all of them fill a roll, are useful, or just completely made obsolete by one of the other rifles. Or there could be 4 Full auto guns all with there advantages and disadvantages, and 4 Specialized rifles for each race. Brust/charge/breach/brust For fun we can add in the missing variants as officer gear. I'm ok with that. but then the current blaster AR needs a charge up shot and then so does the minmatar one, *how does that work* The ARs variant of the Scrambler rifle is the TAC.
Just shut up Kane.
It's bullshit that with Heavy only having 2 weapons since the game fuckin started that we still haven't had any new weapons.
And it's bullshit that the next new weapons, not one is a Heavy Weapon.
Just shut the **** up. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
286
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:49:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:low genius wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Not a rant just shakes head at what I read.
So more AR variants?....lol!!
Its not like heavys been asking for more HEAVY weapons...right? So instead of new laser, mass driver, plasma cannon, shotguns, SMG variants??
Right now an AR outranges a laser...lol!! And basic laser, advanced and proto all have 17 for damage...lol!!
But hey!! lets give a range BUFF to ARs??
Going to wait and see in November but its looking like playtime in Dust is over unless its medium suit and AR.
Whats in November? PS4. did they say that was the extent of the gun changes, or are you just a silly ass? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117279&find=unread It says for the farthest AR that it's optimal range is at 65m-85m max closer than that and you get damage falloff I believe. I'm assuming a setup similar to the laser rifle where there is hardly any damage up close, but lots at the effective ranges.
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Xender17
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
852
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:53:00 -
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There should be a petition to ban lol/LOL/Lol/LOl/lOL/lOl |
Meeko Fent
expert intervention Caldari State
1292
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:54:00 -
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The AR had its falloff window cut SUBSTANTIALLY.
I drops to 1% of its damage in 20 meters following the end of its optimal.
I understand heavies haven't gotten any love in a while, and neither have scouts, but think about it.
You have one more month to preach for a HMG buff
BTW, it's really quite stupid who you bring the PS4 into this. As if threatening them with a deadline is supposed to get them to do what you desire. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9685
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:55:00 -
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Capitalships Online
Nanomachriels Online
Super Capitalships Online
Titans Online |
Yelhsa Jin-Mao
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.10.26 00:57:00 -
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Can people just shut the **** up when complaining about everything and anything that has to do with this game. Its like daily there's at least 7 different threads where people bitching about this games features and im tired of seeing these posts. If you don't like a feature or update of the game then **** off for a while and come back when they've released the following update. Better yet shut up complaining and actually play with one of the assault rifles, you might actually enjoy it. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
897
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:03:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Can people just shut the **** up when complaining about everything and anything that has to do with this game. Its like daily there's at least 7 different threads where people bitching about this games features and im tired of seeing these posts. If you don't like a feature or update of the game then **** off for a while and come back when they've released the following update. Better yet shut up complaining and actually play with one of the assault rifles, you might actually enjoy it.
AR operations level FIVE, AR proficiency level FIVE, AR sharpshooter level FIVE, ...........
Screw this AR514 its boreing seeing one gun over and over and over in the killfeed. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
897
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:09:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:They gave the AR a 2 meter range buff. OMG it's so fucking horrible isn't it. Also you're complaining that CCP is adding content which was supposed to be here a couple months after the release of uprising? Wow these forums are just fucking ridiculous.
Also just so you know the mass driver is a variant of AV weaponry, (Minmatars version) the plasma cannon and the laser rifle are both special weapons (Have no racial variants). Also the LR has a longer range then the AR even after the buff. Since when does the AR have a 20m optimal window?? AR514 You were saying the AR outranges the LR not that it has a bigger optimal range. Get your facts straight. I am saying at 70m or a bit farther in laser optimal that if Kane Freya is using a laser and Tech Ohm is running a Duvolle AR then its a dead Kane. The standard LR (Key word here is STANDARD since the range goes up through the tiers) has an optimal range from 66-85m while the Duvolle AR has 71 m EFFECTIVE RANGE meaning that at 71m the AR is only doing like 20% of it's full damage. Stop pulling s hit out of your a ss and give some real non biased information.
Nonbiased?? Looks at killfeed Ar, AR, AR,,lol!
At 85 m my Duvolle can put you down with your laser.
Duvolle AR damage>>>>>>>>>>>laser damage. My point was that the AR is getting a range buff.........lol!!
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Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
343
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:11:00 -
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You have to remember when the suits came out, all the medium frames got their suits first and any equipment related to them first, so its not a huge surprise that they are getting all their weapons first.
This isn't a niche shooter |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2130
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:12:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Since when does the AR have a 20m optimal window?? AR514
You were saying the AR outranges the LR not that it has a bigger optimal range. Get your facts straight. I am saying at 70m or a bit farther in laser optimal that if Kane Freya is using a laser and Tech Ohm is running a Duvolle AR then its a dead Kane. The standard LR (Key word here is STANDARD since the range goes up through the tiers) has an optimal range from 66-85m while the Duvolle AR has 71 m EFFECTIVE RANGE meaning that at 71m the AR is only doing like 20% of it's full damage. Stop pulling s hit out of your a ss and give some real non biased information. Nonbiased?? Looks at killfeed Ar, AR, AR,,lol! At 85 m my Duvolle can put you down with your laser. Duvolle AR damage>>>>>>>>>>>laser damage. My point was that the AR is getting a range buff.........lol!! A two meter range buff. That's nothing. Also the Laser out DPS's the duvolle at it's optimal range. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2130
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:14:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:And currently they aren't planning on removing the burst AR and TAR like was promised. The TAR is staying I know that 100% because CCP said they are taking 10 meters of range from it when they release the racial rifles. Oh wait I read your post wrong. Sorry. Oh and all the racial rifles are supposed to have an assault, burst, tactical, and breach variant. That wasn't the plan in the past. The burst was the placeholder for the minmatar weapon, and the tar was the placeholder for the rail. I mean I suppose we could just add more guns instead, but then you have to balance 16 rifles. Making sure all of them fill a roll, are useful, or just completely made obsolete by one of the other rifles. Or there could be 4 Full auto guns all with there advantages and disadvantages, and 4 Specialized rifles for each race. Brust/charge/breach/brust For fun we can add in the missing variants as officer gear. I'm ok with that. but then the current blaster AR needs a charge up shot and then so does the minmatar one, *how does that work* The ARs variant of the Scrambler rifle is the TAC. Just shut up Kane. It's bullshit that with Heavy only having 2 weapons since the game fuckin started that we still haven't had any new weapons. And it's bullshit that the next new weapons, not one is a Heavy Weapon. Just shut the **** up. I'm not even arguing about the lack of heavy weapons so how about you shut the fuck up little prick. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
897
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:18:00 -
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@Kane bring your laser.
I will bring my Duvolle AR. |
Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
117
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:21:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Not a rant just shakes head at what I read.
So more AR variants?....lol!!
Its not like heavys been asking for more HEAVY weapons...right? So instead of new laser, mass driver, plasma cannon, shotguns, SMG variants??
Right now an AR outranges a laser...lol!! And basic laser, advanced and proto all have 17 for damage...lol!!
But hey!! lets give a range BUFF to ARs??
Going to wait and see in November but its looking like playtime in Dust is over unless its medium suit and AR.
Whats in November? PS4. Remember when I ran you over with my logi lav then you said the LR was garbage then I lasered you to death back when LR's had the iron sight? Aghhhh good times. |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
446
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Posted - 2013.10.26 01:24:00 -
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We finally get new weapons and people complain...
The sooner these come out the sooner CCP can balance them and move onto new heavy weapons. Light weapons can be used by everyone, heavy weapons only by heavies, so these have the broadest appeal. I agree we need more variety in heavy weapons, heavy suits need love, as do scouts, but it makes sense to focus on the things that will affect the most players first. |
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