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Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4149	Posted - 2013.10.23 23:37:00 - [1] - Quote Written for semi-automatic users. This is a guide on effective use of the semi-automatic scrambler rifle, including how to fit your dropsuits and tips and tricks. This is based on my personal experiences and opinion of the scrambler rifle - I recommend paying attention to what other players have to say as well. What is the scrambler rifle? The scrambler rifle is an Amarrian designed laser based weapon that operates primarily at medium range, though it can effectively cover most ranges, being somewhat viable in CQC and relatively solid for most long ranged combat. It packs a serious punch, being able to out-damage almost any other weapon in straight combat. However, this comes at the cost of a harsh overheating penalty - every shot you fire generates heat, and if too much heat accumulates in your weapon (you fire too quickly/too much) then the weapon will overheat, dealing damage to you and mostly incapacitating you for a short period. Pros: Accurate Deals huge damage Good ammo efficiency Secondary charge-fire mode Cons: Semi-automatic, limited shots nature means you need to make your shots count. Harsh overheating penalty Basic use of the scrambler rifle As an accurate weapon dealing high damage per shot with a mechanic that limits how much you can shoot, you need to control your firing. A scrambler rifle without any special bonuses will allow you 15 shots rapid-fire before overheating. This is enough to take out practically everything you face, if you land your shots. It is crucial, then, to ensure you are landing your shots. When firing, think about how sure you are that your shot is going to land. If you don't think you're going to land the shot, then unless you're in no immediate danger then there's no point shooting. This will become particularly important later on when we introduce the charge shot mechanic. This is a weapon that requires you to be accurate, so when learning to use the weapon focus on your accuracy. Don't worry about getting killing blows or the like yet, just think about hitting the enemy. You must control your fire. There is a great temptation, especially in close-quarters combat, to fire rapidly. This will get you killed. Remember this golden rule. If you control your fire, you're almost never defenceless. Make sure you only fire as many shots as you need to for an opponent. Ideally, you should keep at mid-range. This means at least 20-30 metres away from the enemy. 60m is about where the damage starts to taper off, but you're not likely to be shooting that far anyway. Positioning is important. The scrambler rifle does frightening amounts of damage, if you can land your shots. Mid-range is the easiest range to do this at, so try to make sure you're at that point most of the time. Because you can put out a large amount of damage in a short amount of time, this is also an excellent weapon for cover shooting. Love your cover. If you do end up in a short range situation, don't panic unless it's a shotgunner. If it's a shotgunner, this is about the time where it's acceptable to spam the trigger to possibly avoid dying horribly. Often, however, you will have at least a split second before you go down. Shoot carefully - the ability to keep calm at this point will keep you alive. Hip-fire. It's often very difficult to land shots down your sight at close range, even if that may seem like a good idea to help your accuracy. Dealing with the overheat Regardless of how careful you are, this is going to happen at some point. Your weapon will seize up for a good few seconds. This will render you unable to: Fire (Perhaps obviously) Switch to your sidearm Switch to equipment Sprint This is dangerous. You can still move, albeit slowly, crouch, and you can still jump. Depending on the situation, you'll probably have to do one of these things. If there are no enemies left, none of these will likely be necessary, but often there will still be a threat if you're forced into an overheat situation. If you're at mid-range with cover, you can laugh at your overheat. Simply duck back into cover until cooled down. At mid-range without cover, strafe left and right. If you're still under fire, then your life may depend on this. Try to move towards cover if you can, but your objective is to stay alive until your weapon cools down, at which point you need to kill your assailants. At close-range, you probably don't have cover, but if you do try to obstruct your opponent behind boxes, walls, etc. Again, your objective is to stay alive until cooled down. I highly recommend jumping repeatedly if you have stamina left, a practice known as 'bunny-hopping'. This can throw off the aim of your opponent and give you those vital few moments you need. Charging your shots The scrambler rifle has an additional secondary fire function. If you hold down the trigger, the weapon will charge up a shot. This shot will take approximately two seconds to charge. It will do significantly more damage, but also generate a lot more heat. I would estimate the heat generation to be about ten shots worth. It is possible to kill weaker suits in one shot using this. It's an excellent tool for cover warfare - you can charge your shot from behind cover and nail your foe with a highly damaging shot the moment they pop out of cover. Go for the headshot, unless you're certain of killing them in one shot or they're running. The headshot allows you to do more one shot damage than most sniper rifles. You're particularly likely to want to go for the headshot in cover to cover combat - it can be easy to get a headshot if that's the only part you can see poking out of cover.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4149	Posted - 2013.10.23 23:38:00 - [2] - Quote There are some times when you donGÇÖt want to use a charged shot. Here are some of them: - Sprinting enemy, unsure if you can hit them - Close combat situation - If you miss youGÇÖre screwed - Against particularly tough targets - due to the higher heat generation you wonGÇÖt be able to put out quite as much damage before overheating, though your initial shot will do more damage. Heavies or thickly-armoured targets may pose a problem if you charge your shot. Fitting your scrambler rifle If youGÇÖre still reading, it can be assumed that youGÇÖre interested in giving the weapon a go. Great! The first thing you should think about is your dropsuit choice. The scrambler rifle can fit on any dropsuit, being a light weapon, but there is one suit that stands out as better suited for it. The best suit for this weapon, by far, is the Amarr Assault. This dropsuit has a bonus which reduces your heat generation - at max level, you will go from firing 15 shots to firing 20 shots in a pinch. ThatGÇÖs incredibly valuable, and this is coupled with a fairly large pool of fitting resources. The scrambler rifle is difficult to fit, taking up a large amount of powergrid. You may have to make sacrifices elsewhere in your fitting to ensure it fits - for example, fitting basic plates instead of enhanced. In your initial fits this is unlikely to be a problem, but as your skills develop and you get into a better suit this may come up. HereGÇÖs an example of a basic Amarr assault suit which you can get into with minimal SP investment: Amarr Assault A-1, basic setup Scrambler Rifle Submachine Gun Locus Grenade Basic Shield Extender Basic Shield Extender Basic Armour Repairer Nanohive This is a completely basic suit, and you may well be able to upgrade it significantly depending on your SP. Ideally, it will become this: Amarr Assault A-1, more SP investment Scrambler Rifle Submachine Gun Locus Grenade Complex Shield Extender Complex Light Damage Modifier Enhanced Armour Repairer Compact Nanohive ThatGÇÖs a little tankier, speedier to heal, and more damaging than the base variant. As you go up the tiers, there are several things to remember: You want, ideally, one complex shield extender in your high slots. Fill the rest with damage modifiers. Your low slots must always have an armour repairer, ideally at the complex level. Your SCR is key to everything, but higher tiers require a lot of fitting resources. A Compact Nanohive will allow you to heal some health quickly in a pinch as well as restoring most of your ammo. These principles can be applied all the way up through the tiers of Amarr Assault dropsuits, until eventually you reach the top tiers. Amarr Assault Ak.0 Imperial Scrambler Rifle M209 Assault Submachine Gun Core Locus Grenade Complex Shield Extender Complex Light Damage Modifier Enhanced Light Damage Modifier Enhanced Armour Plates Enhanced Armour Plates Complex Armour Repairer Allotek Nanohive ThatGÇÖs an example of the kind of thing you can get, but at that stage you probably know how to fit things yourself. Tweak to taste. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them below or message me in-game. I will happily squad up with you as well to train you personally if you have a mic.
ninjamonster PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.10.24 21:37:00 - [3] - Quote Nice guide! I'm a scrambler rifle user myself +1
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 401	Posted - 2013.10.24 21:51:00 - [4] - Quote Good guide, do you have any recommendations for an A/1-series (adv.) suit?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4177	Posted - 2013.10.24 22:23:00 - [5] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: Good guide, do you have any recommendations for an A/1-series (adv.) suit? Mostly just follow the rules I set out in the fittings section - Here's one I made quickly for you: Amarr Assault, A/1 Series CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Submachine Gun M1 Locus Grenade Complex Light Damage Modifier Complex Light Shield Extender Complex Armour Plates Complex Armour Repairer Compact Nanohive There are a couple of tweaks you can make depending on how you play. If you're okay with losing a little bit of buffer, you can drop the shield extender for a second damage mod. You can also swap out the equipment for pretty much whatever. As the SCR is very ammo efficient, you can get away without carrying nanohives all the time. You will have to restock periodically but it's not a major concern.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3600	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:51:00 - [6] - Quote You have my old Amarr Assault Proto Fit on the AK.0 Right there, or close enough to it.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4180	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:53:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: You have my old Amarr Assault Proto Fit on the AK.0 Right there, or close enough to it. You have core locus grenades? Some of the stuff on there is quite SP intensive.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 404	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:37:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: XANDER KAG wrote: Good guide, do you have any recommendations for an A/1-series (adv.) suit? Mostly just follow the rules I set out in the fittings section - Here's one I made quickly for you: Amarr Assault, A/1 Series CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle Submachine Gun M1 Locus Grenade Complex Light Damage Modifier Complex Light Shield Extender Complex Armour Plates Complex Armour Repairer Compact Nanohive There are a couple of tweaks you can make depending on how you play. If you're okay with losing a little bit of buffer, you can drop the shield extender for a second damage mod. You can also swap out the equipment for pretty much whatever. As the SCR is very ammo efficient, you can get away without carrying nanohives all the time. You will have to restock periodically but it's not a major concern. Thank you, that is fairly close to what I already have. The chief difference is that I use a enhanced plates rather than complex. I know it defeats the basic principle of the suit but for some reason i really notice that extra 2% of speed. Besides what usually kills me in that suit are fights that a god mode cheat couldn't get me out of.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4200	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:49:00 - [9] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: Thank you, that is fairly close to what I already have. The chief difference is that I use a enhanced plates rather than complex. I know it defeats the basic principle of the suit but for some reason i really notice that extra 2% of speed. Besides what usually kills me in that suit are fights that a god mode cheat couldn't get me out of. Yeah, it's fairly rare for just a few HP more to save you and speed is also useful. If you don't do that though that leaves you a lot of spare fitting room - you could upgrade to an Imperial scrambler, better SMG, or better grenade. With some more tweaking oyu might even be able to get an allotek hive on instead of a compact. Tweaking is a really great thing about the fittings system, so go to town.
Artificer Ghost Bojo's School of the Trades 1130	Posted - 2013.10.25 16:46:00 - [10] - Quote All I had to do was point and shoot, and I got 3 headshot kills by doing do. It was a dropship. I shot it down with my Scrambler Rifle. It was at full HP. CCP, just buff the Dropship, else I will continue to OHK them. >:) In all seriousness though, great guide. Mind if I add it to part of the BSoTT Library? Of course, it will have all credit given to you and your brain. ~Art, I'm Pretty Sure You Know Who I Am, But Just In Case; CEO and Director of Education at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition, Winner of the "Last One To Post" Thread. EDIT: Also, looking at the conversation here about upgrading weapons, I'd say the SMG. I got the Six Kin and on my first time using it I managed to kill 7 people before dying. On a Scout. :)

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4213	Posted - 2013.10.25 20:17:00 - [11] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: All I had to do was point and shoot, and I got 3 headshot kills by doing do. It was a dropship. I shot it down with my Scrambler Rifle. It was at full HP. CCP, just buff the Dropship, else I will continue to OHK them. >:) Oh, derpships. Quote: In all seriousness though, great guide. Mind if I add it to part of the BSoTT Library? Of course, it will have all credit given to you and your brain. ~Art, I'm Pretty Sure You Know Who I Am, But Just In Case; CEO and Director of Education at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition, Winner of the "Last One To Post" Thread. EDIT: Also, looking at the conversation here about upgrading weapons, I'd say the SMG. I got the Six Kin and on my first time using it I managed to kill 7 people before dying. On a Scout. :) Go right ahead!
Gryffin Narcotic Sinful Guise 0	Posted - 2013.10.25 20:19:00 - [12] - Quote Great guide I really appreciate this rifle. Any suggestions on the Templar rifle and dropsuit?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4213	Posted - 2013.10.25 20:34:00 - [13] - Quote Gryffin Narcotic wrote: Great guide I really appreciate this rifle. Any suggestions on the Templar rifle and dropsuit? They're equivalent to standard level, so just roll with the standard fit really.
Darth-Carbonite GIO Dust2Dust. Top Men. 218	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:15:00 - [14] - Quote Nicely written, good job. The only thing I would add is the fact that Scramblers do reduced damage to armor, unlike ARs which seemingly take down everything equally. This drawback is very apparent with heavies, and gallente especially, but as long as you keep a good distance between yourself and the armor tanker, you should be golden.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4216	Posted - 2013.10.25 22:16:00 - [15] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO wrote: Nicely written, good job. The only thing I would add is the fact that Scramblers do reduced damage to armor, unlike ARs which seemingly take down everything equally. This drawback is very apparent with heavies, and gallente especially, but as long as you keep a good distance between yourself and the armor tanker, you should be golden. You're right. I can't believe I forgot that. Will edit now.
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 74	Posted - 2013.10.28 20:19:00 - [16] - Quote if your fitting skills are up to scratch you can dual tank a std amarr assault for 743 ehp, 2x extenders and 1 plate with nades and compact hive, no sidearm. +1 to op for spreading the gospel though
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4378	Posted - 2013.10.28 20:24:00 - [17] - Quote Monty Mole Clone wrote: if your fitting skills are up to scratch you can dual tank a std amarr assault for 743 ehp, 2x extenders and 1 plate with nades and compact hive, no sidearm. +1 to op for spreading the gospel though This is of course true, but your damage output and regeneration tends to be bad. I prefer an armour repairer over the plate on the standard fit simply because I like having armour regeneration without being tied to a triage hive or logibro. And the scrambler rifle shines so much with damage mods I always feel the need to put at least one on my fits. That is, however, likely to be a nice newbie friendly fit capable of tanking a fair bit of damage so I may edit the OP about that. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 74	Posted - 2013.10.28 20:28:00 - [18] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Monty Mole Clone wrote: if your fitting skills are up to scratch you can dual tank a std amarr assault for 743 ehp, 2x extenders and 1 plate with nades and compact hive, no sidearm. +1 to op for spreading the gospel though This is of course true, but your damage output and regeneration tends to be bad. I prefer an armour repairer over the plate on the standard fit simply because I like having armour regeneration without being tied to a triage hive or logibro. And the scrambler rifle shines so much with damage mods I always feel the need to put at least one on my fits. That is, however, likely to be a nice newbie friendly fit capable of tanking a fair bit of damage so I may edit the OP about that. thats the good thing about amarr assaults because with less fitting skills to dual tank you can swap out the extenders for the dual complex damage mods
Lea Silencio Pradox One Proficiency V. 557	Posted - 2013.10.29 09:21:00 - [19] - Quote Excellent post! Everything is covered well!
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4395	Posted - 2013.10.29 10:22:00 - [20] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: Excellent post! Everything is covered well! Thank you. I still have yet to meet you on the battlefield. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution

Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 324	Posted - 2013.10.29 10:38:00 - [21] - Quote When I encounter a shotgunner I often charge a shot and wait. He needs to align the shot as much as I do, and I take two hits to go down to his weapon whereas he dies instantly to mine. Thanks for the guide anyways. It's well written and everything important is well covered.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4397	Posted - 2013.10.29 10:49:00 - [22] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: When I encounter a shotgunner I often charge a shot and wait. He needs to align the shot as much as I do, and I take two hits to go down to his weapon whereas he dies instantly to mine. Thanks for the guide anyways. It's well written and everything important is well covered. Hrm. I tend to charge shots when I know there's a shotgunner waiting around a corner - but do you mean that you charge shots whilst the shotgunner is actually firing at you? Personally, I'd hate to do that. What happens if you miss the shot? Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Lea Silencio Pradox One Proficiency V. 564	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:30:00 - [23] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: Excellent post! Everything is covered well! Thank you. I still have yet to meet you on the battlefield. Let's set up a "play date"! Lol!
Lea Silencio Pradox One Proficiency V. 564	Posted - 2013.10.30 09:37:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Stefan Stahl wrote: When I encounter a shotgunner I often charge a shot and wait. He needs to align the shot as much as I do, and I take two hits to go down to his weapon whereas he dies instantly to mine. Thanks for the guide anyways. It's well written and everything important is well covered. Hrm. I tend to charge shots when I know there's a shotgunner waiting around a corner - but do you mean that you charge shots whilst the shotgunner is actually firing at you? Personally, I'd hate to do that. What happens if you miss the shot? Charging shotgunners have two attack patterns when charging: 1. Straight line, occasionally will jump straight up in the air to close the gap quickly, or 2. Bunny hopper, left to right strafing pattern, trying to throw off your aim while attempting to close the gap as well. You deal with both in the same manner (although #2 is admittingly tougher to deal with)... Back pedal while placing your shots well and alternating your sidearm with your SCR to avoid overheat and an awkward, merciless death.
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 324	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:02:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Stefan Stahl wrote: When I encounter a shotgunner I often charge a shot and wait. He needs to align the shot as much as I do, and I take two hits to go down to his weapon whereas he dies instantly to mine. Thanks for the guide anyways. It's well written and everything important is well covered. Hrm. I tend to charge shots when I know there's a shotgunner waiting around a corner - but do you mean that you charge shots whilst the shotgunner is actually firing at you? Personally, I'd hate to do that. What happens if you miss the shot? I assumed you'd discover the shotgunner before he was in shooting range. At least in public matches I'm rarely surprised by shotgunners. If I spotted the shotgunner early enough I charge the shot until the shotgunner stops his "evasive" movement pattern and go for the insta-kill when he tries to line up his shot. If his evasive pattern isn't good enough I may go for the kill before, of course. If the shot fails I pull out the Breach Scrambler Pistol and go for the headshot. Remember that shotgunners stop jumping when they try to line up a shot. This makes lining up a headshot easy on level ground. If you're suprised by a shotgunner then you're right, spam the trigger button and try to save the situation, but generally you've maneuvered yourself into a disadvantageous position by not paying attention before.
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 141	Posted - 2013.10.31 09:53:00 - [26] - Quote It's funny - I started using the assault scramber, but most of this guide is almost like it's about another weapon entirely! I've seen folks use the alpha very effectively. But using a controller, I never feel confident I'll hit.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4490	Posted - 2013.10.31 10:11:00 - [27] - Quote Blake Kingston wrote: It's funny - I started using the assault scramber, but most of this guide is almost like it's about another weapon entirely! I've seen folks use the alpha very effectively. But using a controller, I never feel confident I'll hit. It is about another weapon entirely tbqh. The semi-automatic is very, very different from the assault variant. I actually use a controller. I guess it's because I've always really played FPS on consoles. Would you be more confident with a mouse? Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 325	Posted - 2013.10.31 11:09:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Blake Kingston wrote: It's funny - I started using the assault scramber, but most of this guide is almost like it's about another weapon entirely! I've seen folks use the alpha very effectively. But using a controller, I never feel confident I'll hit. It is about another weapon entirely tbqh. The semi-automatic is very, very different from the assault variant. I actually use a controller. I guess it's because I've always really played FPS on consoles. Would you be more confident with a mouse? Dust is my first console FPS and it took a massive learning curve to getting used to the SCR. Even with the aim assist this is not easy at all for someone who thinks sticks are a horrible interface for aiming.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 322	Posted - 2013.11.01 00:15:00 - [29] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: Dust is my first console FPS and it took a massive learning curve to getting used to the SCR. Even with the aim assist this is not easy at all for someone who thinks sticks are a horrible interface for aiming. Try the playstation move, with a rifle accessory, then! :) (its actually quite fun! But tiring)
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 322	Posted - 2013.11.01 00:18:00 - [30] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Basic use of the scrambler rifle As an accurate weapon dealing high damage per shot with a mechanic that limits how much you can shoot, you need to control your firing. A scrambler rifle without any special bonuses will allow you 15 shots rapid-fire before overheating. Erm.. 15 ?!? Maybe if you are either in an amarr suit, or fire really slowly. For me, with level 1 skill, I think I only got up to 10, before overhead I leveled up to 3(?), and then I could get up to 12 or so reliably before kaboomie. I really wish they put the limiter back in. sigh... (description says it has the "overhead limiter removed" or something)

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4527	Posted - 2013.11.01 06:35:00 - [31] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Basic use of the scrambler rifle As an accurate weapon dealing high damage per shot with a mechanic that limits how much you can shoot, you need to control your firing. A scrambler rifle without any special bonuses will allow you 15 shots rapid-fire before overheating. Erm.. 15 ?!? Maybe if you are either in an amarr suit, or fire really slowly. For me, with level 1 skill, I think I only got up to 10, before overhead I leveled up to 3(?), and then I could get up to 12 or so reliably before kaboomie. I really wish they put the limiter back in. sigh... (description says it has the "overhead limiter removed" or something) Really? I've always ever gotten 15 outside of my Amarr suits even before I had rifle operation V. Are you sure? If so, I'll edit, but could you check? Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 180	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:24:00 - [32] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Basic use of the scrambler rifle As an accurate weapon dealing high damage per shot with a mechanic that limits how much you can shoot, you need to control your firing. A scrambler rifle without any special bonuses will allow you 15 shots rapid-fire before overheating. Erm.. 15 ?!? Maybe if you are either in an amarr suit, or fire really slowly. For me, with level 1 skill, I think I only got up to 10, before overhead I leveled up to 3(?), and then I could get up to 12 or so reliably before kaboomie. I really wish they put the limiter back in. sigh... (description says it has the "overhead limiter removed" or something) Really? I've always ever gotten 15 outside of my Amarr suits even before I had rifle operation V. Are you sure? If so, I'll edit, but could you check? This is a pretty subjective value- it depends on your trigger finger and how well it syncs up with the SCR's ROF. I'll use the TAR as an example of what I mean, because the lower ROF makes this effect more noticable. If the TAR requires X seconds between each shot, and you hit the trigger every 0.75X seconds, this will yield a lower ROF than the maximum, as your second shot will go out at 1.5X seconds as opposed to X seconds. The same effect exists for the SCR, but it's less apparent. With spamming as fast as I can, I can generally get 12-14 shots off depending on how well I synchronize with the ROF.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4533	Posted - 2013.11.01 15:31:00 - [33] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Basic use of the scrambler rifle As an accurate weapon dealing high damage per shot with a mechanic that limits how much you can shoot, you need to control your firing. A scrambler rifle without any special bonuses will allow you 15 shots rapid-fire before overheating. Erm.. 15 ?!? Maybe if you are either in an amarr suit, or fire really slowly. For me, with level 1 skill, I think I only got up to 10, before overhead I leveled up to 3(?), and then I could get up to 12 or so reliably before kaboomie. I really wish they put the limiter back in. sigh... (description says it has the "overhead limiter removed" or something) Really? I've always ever gotten 15 outside of my Amarr suits even before I had rifle operation V. Are you sure? If so, I'll edit, but could you check? This is a pretty subjective value- it depends on your trigger finger and how well it syncs up with the SCR's ROF. I'll use the TAR as an example of what I mean, because the lower ROF makes this effect more noticable. If the TAR requires X seconds between each shot, and you hit the trigger every 0.75X seconds, this will yield a lower ROF than the maximum, as your second shot will go out at 1.5X seconds as opposed to X seconds. The same effect exists for the SCR, but it's less apparent. With spamming as fast as I can, I can generally get 12-14 shots off depending on how well I synchronize with the ROF. Has anyone tested whether the heat is strictly per shot or per second spent firing or some blend of the two? Because it's listed as heat build-up/second on the market. I've always thought it's per second as when staggering (admittedly slightly) shots sometimes I still get the same number of shots out as when I just blitz the trigger. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 141	Posted - 2013.11.02 04:10:00 - [34] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I actually use a controller. I guess it's because I've always really played FPS on consoles. Would you be more confident with a mouse? I have a wireless mouse and keyboard, but I haven't really looked into any stable couch platform for the mouse.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4585	Posted - 2013.11.04 19:49:00 - [35] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Blake Kingston wrote: It's funny - I started using the assault scramber, but most of this guide is almost like it's about another weapon entirely! I've seen folks use the alpha very effectively. But using a controller, I never feel confident I'll hit. It is about another weapon entirely tbqh. The semi-automatic is very, very different from the assault variant. I actually use a controller. I guess it's because I've always really played FPS on consoles. Would you be more confident with a mouse? Dust is my first console FPS and it took a massive learning curve to getting used to the SCR. Even with the aim assist this is not easy at all for someone who thinks sticks are a horrible interface for aiming. Stick at it - aiming properly is the hardest part of the SCR. Also, have you tried it with aim assist off? Occasionally it can mess up your shots more than it can help, though it probably depends on how good you really are at aiming. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 337	Posted - 2013.11.05 07:50:00 - [36] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Stick at it - aiming properly is the hardest part of the SCR. Also, have you tried it with aim assist off? Occasionally it can mess up your shots more than it can help, though it probably depends on how good you really are at aiming. These days it's ok. I've picked up SCPs back in open beta and have improved a whole lot ever since. I'm not awesome in any way, but I'm very content with my ability to land headshots. Recently I was in a prolonged firefight with my SCR next to a supply depot. Without a thought I switched out to my dual TT-3 SCP-fitting, charged the fool while he was recharging shields and gave him two headshots out of ~3 three shots. I had to giggle when I realized that I had considered the SCPs to be more suitable for the situation than the SCR.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1027	Posted - 2013.11.08 04:11:00 - [37] - Quote All I gotta say is "Real men armor tank". "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4724	Posted - 2013.11.08 07:01:00 - [38] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: All I gotta say is "Real men armor tank". They do, but the SCR shreds it anyway. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 625	Posted - 2013.11.08 09:01:00 - [39] - Quote I have one question about skilling up. The rifle proficiency increases damage by 3% per level. The weapon skill increases cool down by 5% per level as does the Assault suit bonus. Getting the suit bonuses means more shots. I use STD so each shot is 72 damage. So there must come a point where getting an extra shot off before overheat adds more damage then the proficiancy. SO what is the best way to level a SCR character. Suit bonus first or Prof? Or a mix of both up till a certain point. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4728	Posted - 2013.11.08 17:35:00 - [40] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: I have one question about skilling up. The rifle proficiency increases damage by 3% per level. The weapon skill increases cool down by 5% per level as does the Assault suit bonus. Getting the suit bonuses means more shots. I use STD so each shot is 72 damage. So there must come a point where getting an extra shot off before overheat adds more damage then the proficiancy. SO what is the best way to level a SCR character. Suit bonus first or Prof? Or a mix of both up till a certain point. That's an interesting question actually, but those attributes can't be compared that directly. Sometimes straight damage will have more value than being able to get more shots off - if you can only land a couple before someone gets to cover, for example, it doesn't matter how many shots you can fire, it matters more how much damage they do. In terms of straight ability to do damage, I think the suit bonus will almost always win except in extreme cases, like getting the suit skill to 3 or 4 vs getting proficiency to 1 or 2. Personally, I would recommend investing in the suit first, and then the proficiency. Take the assault suit to 3, then level up your operation to 5 and your proficiency to 3 before embarking on the great protosuit grind. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution

Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1735	Posted - 2013.11.09 20:56:00 - [41] - Quote Great guide - +1 from a day one scrambler rifle user. I'll add one thing, though. My favorite piece of equipment to run with the ScR is the active scanner. It lets you find enemies that are in cover and get your charge shot ready to blap them the instant they come out of cover.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1330	Posted - 2013.11.09 21:42:00 - [42] - Quote The Scrambler Rifle is so awesome. I went 8-0 and 10-0 with it earlier :D Not very good, but I didn't lose my Proto suit :D Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. -Mark Twain :D
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4834	Posted - 2013.11.10 23:17:00 - [43] - Quote Working on a video guide for this now. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 340	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:10:00 - [44] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Great guide - +1 from a day one scrambler rifle user. I'll add one thing, though. My favorite piece of equipment to run with the ScR is the active scanner. It lets you find enemies that are in cover and get your charge shot ready to blap them the instant they come out of cover. I do use the active scanner once in a while, but I feel that a drop uplink is a wonderful pair to the SCR. The SCR lends itself to a rather static style of play where you pick your targets from the perimeter of a fight. Putting down a drop uplink helps keeping the fight away from you as long as enough teammates spawn in. Being rather static yourself you can guard the drop uplink and provide a relatively safe point of entry for your teammates. Being able to charge shots before the red dot actually comes into sight is wonderful of course, but I've come to the conclusion that I do better with a strategically placed drop uplink.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 6660	Posted - 2013.12.24 08:47:00 - [45] - Quote The SCR is still a very good weapon in the current meta. Give it a shot or ten. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5267	Posted - 2013.12.26 02:24:00 - [46] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The SCR is still a very good weapon in the current meta. Give it a shot or ten. The results speak for themselves at 50m with a couple of charged bolts. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Zion Shad Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2049	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:24:00 - [47] - Quote Nice guide Arkena! Would like to chat when you have time ether in game or on Skype. Please let me know when youre free and which is best for u. Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
Miko Ray DUST University Ivy League 18	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:27:00 - [48] - Quote You missed: "Crack a few eggs in a pan of hot oil or butter .. stir with the rifle and then serve on toast" Great guide .. I will take note.
Zion Shad Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2070	Posted - 2014.01.04 01:46:00 - [49] - Quote Congratulations Arkena! You have been selected as a Nominee for the Dust 514 Wall of Fame. You should take the time to take a look. Thank you for your community work and congratz again. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133460&find=unread Shad Co-Owner of Multiplexgaming.com Co-Host of PODSIDE on iTunes
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10285	Posted - 2014.03.02 23:20:00 - [50] - Quote Bump, for those interested. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.

paulna The CentreZ 1	Posted - 2014.03.09 17:40:00 - [51] - Quote Do you still stand by your fitting suggestions? Damage modules are getting a nerf in 1.8. Would you recommend a complex damage modifier over a complex shield extender?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10815	Posted - 2014.03.09 17:47:00 - [52] - Quote paulna wrote: Do you still stand by your fitting suggestions? Damage modules are getting a nerf in 1.8. Would you recommend a complex damage modifier over a complex shield extender? I'll be waiting for 1.8 to decide but it looks like shield extenders and dual tanking will be the way to go. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
paulna The CentreZ 1	Posted - 2014.03.09 17:53:00 - [53] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: paulna wrote: Do you still stand by your fitting suggestions? Damage modules are getting a nerf in 1.8. Would you recommend a complex damage modifier over a complex shield extender? I'll be waiting for 1.8 to decide but it looks like shield extenders and dual tanking will be the way to go. Be sure to update the guide if you change your mind :)
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10816	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:01:00 - [54] - Quote paulna wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: paulna wrote: Do you still stand by your fitting suggestions? Damage modules are getting a nerf in 1.8. Would you recommend a complex damage modifier over a complex shield extender? I'll be waiting for 1.8 to decide but it looks like shield extenders and dual tanking will be the way to go. Be sure to update the guide if you change your mind :) Absolutely. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3435	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:51:00 - [55] - Quote After running this weapon pretty often recently (so I am prepared for a respec) I've found it to be a truly good weapon and easier to hit targets with than the TAR. I just switch to my ScP if it's close range though, it's higher damage without overheat. My question to you is how do you make a good fit with it on non-Amarr suits like say the Gallente Scouts because when I fit a CRW-04 on an ADV even with my maxed CPU/PG skills it's a fit eater so I down shift to the basic most often because even basic Scrambler rifle is hard hitting. I tried Redline Railgunning
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2483	Posted - 2014.03.11 13:06:00 - [56] - Quote I skilled into Amarr Assault just so I could make better use of my prof 5 scrambler rifle skill since I barely use SRs anymore. For me it's the only way I can use the weapon anymore lol. My fitting is very similar except that I use a scanner (the ammo cap on the SR means nanohives are useless, except for rep hives. They also take up too much fitting space) The one extender bumps shields up to 300, two complex damage mods 1 complex plate, 1 enhanced plate, 1 complex repper (6.5 sprint, 500 armor) The Alpha Damage is where it's at :P However I prefer taking advantage of my fast trigger finger x) Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12280	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:27:00 - [57] - Quote The SCR is still a solid enough weapon in 1.8. Give it a go! It might not be an exciting thing like a cloaked scout, but it's a fun weapon to master and IMO, the most skillful of the rifles. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Musta Tornius Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1265	Posted - 2014.04.12 13:56:00 - [58] - Quote <3 Arkena DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13920	Posted - 2014.06.02 06:56:00 - [59] - Quote Updated for 1.8. Mostly tweaks to the fitting section and more of an emphasis on the weakness against armour since the proficiency changes and damage reductions. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Cross Atu for CPM1
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 23	Posted - 2014.06.03 23:32:00 - [60] - Quote i personally find the part about scramblers being weak against armor to be bullcrud.. scramblers are OP vs shield AND just as much on armor even on my heavy with like 700+ armor it MELTS VS scramblers. and the heat issue isnt even an issue for adv/proto scramblers when things die in 1 charged shot plus 2 or 3 followups.. even less of an issue on amarr suits. i will however give the guide a read to see if i find any hints and tips on how to face off against them other then a HMG enema from behind. Nanite Injectors! Nanite Injectors Everywhere! Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?



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