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I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1123	Posted - 2013.10.23 21:56:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously, there has been so many times that I've run out of ammo only to literally have to wait for my armor to regen before I can start getting ammo...and then a player finds me and keeps knocking parts of my armor off...only for the nanohive to keep healing me and not giving me any ammo whatsoever, eventually leading to my death because of no sidearm (I'm a logi) It would be nice if it gave you ammo and healing at the same time, but I'd honestly rather it just make it so that it only heals once you have 50%+ ammo Reasons: 1. It takes much less time to get to max ammo than it does to get max armor (especially heavies) 2. They're nanohives...nanohives give ammo primarily, so why is the repair function primary? 3. It's possible to still do things with max ammo but no armor. It's very hard to do much at all with max armor and no ammo.
Templar 514 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2013.10.23 22:15:00 - [2] - Quote I'm going to say "NO", because this would massively screw over the playstyle of "MAXIMUM ARMOR BUFFER+REP&AMMO HIVE". Seriously, it would. A repping hive is absolutely critical to any fit that prioritizes fitting plates over reppers (or cannot fit a rep at all), and is used primarily because it reps armor, and then resupplies ammo.
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 506	Posted - 2013.10.23 22:26:00 - [3] - Quote carry 2 nanos
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 129	Posted - 2013.10.23 22:27:00 - [4] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Seriously, there has been so many times that I've run out of ammo only to literally have to wait for my armor to regen before I can start getting ammo...and then a player finds me and keeps knocking parts of my armor off...only for the nanohive to keep healing me and not giving me any ammo whatsoever, eventually leading to my death because of no sidearm (I'm a logi) It would be nice if it gave you ammo and healing at the same time, but I'd honestly rather it just make it so that it only heals once you have 50%+ ammo Reasons: 1. It takes much less time to get to max ammo than it does to get max armor (especially heavies) 2. They're nanohives...nanohives give ammo primarily, so why is the repair function primary? 3. It's possible to still do things with max ammo but no armor. It's very hard to do much at all with max armor and no ammo. I'll also say NO, it's main function is a REPAIR HIVE, if you want ammo quicker don't use the repair hive.
IrishWebster Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2013.10.23 22:34:00 - [5] - Quote I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else??
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1124	Posted - 2013.10.23 23:05:00 - [6] - Quote Templar 514 wrote: I'm going to say "NO", because this would massively screw over the playstyle of "MAXIMUM ARMOR BUFFER+REP&AMMO HIVE". Seriously, it would. A repping hive is absolutely critical to any fit that prioritizes fitting plates over reppers (or cannot fit a rep at all), and is used primarily because it reps armor, and then resupplies ammo. This is the EXACT playstyle I use (4 plates + allotek nanohive (R)) But when I run out of ammo, my nanohive decides that instead of giving me ammo, it wants to wait until I'm all healed up before I go back into combat. So I wait. And wait. And then an enemy spots me and starts running at me. If that players starts eating into my armor, that means even LONGER before I can start receiving ammo, which is just plain stupid. These nanohives need to at least prioritize ammo when you are completely out of it. Even if they just give you one cluster of ammo, that could mean life or death in the situation I just described. If you were in a situation where you already had 300/600 armor, but were out of ammo and a guy is rushing up on you, would you rather have the thing give you some ammo to help defend, or just for it to keep repping you? I mean, why is it not the better option to just have them give you BOTH at the same time? Or at least a couple clusters if you are completely out?
Templar 514 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2013.10.23 23:33:00 - [7] - Quote My main issue is this little bit here [emphasis mine]: I-Shayz-I wrote: It would be nice if it gave you ammo and healing at the same time, but I'd honestly rather it just make it so that it only heals once you have 50%+ ammo By your own admission, you think it would be better to change them to give ammo, and then rep. Which screws over squadded heavy players in particular, since a highly effective tactic is to set up 2+ repping hives and sit in them while killing all the things. Granted, it doesn't usually work out as well as I put it, but the most basic change to make this happen- and let's face it, CCP has a HUGE amount of stuff to do in the runup to 1.6/1.7- so in all likelihood it would be changed to "resupply ammo, then rep". Sitting on a hive and firing will automatically fill up your ammo, and thus we end up with useless equipment- it will hardly ever rep you, because it's too busy resupplying your ammo. Sounds harsh, I know, but consider how it works now. I'll fully admit I know pretty much nothing about coding, and I'm pretty much speculating here, but it would probably be a lot more work for it to be changed to a "check for 50%+ ammo capacity level, if 'Y'>REPREPREP, if 'N'>RESUPPLY ALL THE BULLETS", compared to the current "REPREPREP>>>RESUPPLY", or a simple reversal of that. THAT is my main problem. Out of curiosity, what dropsuit type do you usually run? If an Assault suit, then I can sort of understand your frustration, but if you're running a logisuit, then why not slap on a spare STD level (or even Militia, if you're feeling cheap) nanohive for emergency ammo? I'm genuinely curious on this.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1129	Posted - 2013.10.24 00:11:00 - [8] - Quote Templar 514 wrote: Out of curiosity, what dropsuit type do you usually run? If an Assault suit, then I can sort of understand your frustration, but if you're running a logisuit, then why not slap on a spare STD level (or even Militia, if you're feeling cheap) nanohive for emergency ammo? I'm genuinely curious on this. Be curious no longer. As a logi, my equipment is either Uplink, scanner, nanohive (R) or Injector, scanner, nanohive (R) or (Proto) Uplink, Injector, Scanner, Nanohive (R) or (Proto) Nanohive, Injector, Scanner, Triage Nanohive (no ammo) Since the recent overlooked nerf to repair tools, and buff to scanners, I have been using scanners much more often (almost on every suit) because I can no combine my repair tool with my nanohive when in groups of allies. Honestly, I HAVE tried to use one nanohive and one nanohive (R), but then I feel too much like an assault suit and I have one equipment slot left to either use an injector or a scanner, in which my solution was just to drop two nanohives (R) in order to speed up the process of repair in an emergency situation. This way I can still use multiple equipment. For my protosuit with two nanohives, one gives only ammo, one gives only repair. This is good, but means that I have to sacrifice a lot of cpu/pg, and can only use this setup on prototype suits. It's just not viable on an advanced suit as it gives me hardly any fitting space, limits my options, and costs a lot of isk that I can't protect with lots of armor and shield modules.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 859	Posted - 2013.10.24 00:25:00 - [9] - Quote IrishWebster wrote: I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else?? Because its meant for healing and it would use the nanite clusters too quickly if it did. This would seriously fk with my medic logi fit.
Cosgar ParagonX 6371	Posted - 2013.10.24 02:09:00 - [10] - Quote IrishWebster wrote: I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else?? ^

IrishWebster Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 86	Posted - 2013.10.24 03:30:00 - [11] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: IrishWebster wrote: I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else?? Because its meant for healing and it would use the nanite clusters too quickly if it did. This would seriously fk with my medic logi fit. Dude, think about what you said. If you're looking to get both reps and resupply, you're going to use the same amount of clusters anyway. It will use them faster, this is true, but it will be getting the JOB DONE FASTER as well. Unless you ONLY want the reps, in which case, you seem to be alone, brother. I would personally like to see both reps and resupply simultaneously.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 925	Posted - 2013.10.24 04:49:00 - [12] - Quote Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. That way people can pick and choose which they prefer. One that does both simultaneously but at a reduced rate it also a good idea. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! Good stuff though guys.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1133	Posted - 2013.10.24 04:52:00 - [13] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! This is a very interesting idea.
Cosgar ParagonX 6378	Posted - 2013.10.24 04:53:00 - [14] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. That way people can pick and choose which they prefer. One that does both simultaneously but at a reduced rate it also a good idea. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! Good stuff though guys. To be honest, the nanohives need some attention. I'd like to see ammo, ammo/repair, and repair hives better balanced across the tiers.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1133	Posted - 2013.10.24 04:57:00 - [15] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. That way people can pick and choose which they prefer. One that does both simultaneously but at a reduced rate it also a good idea. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! Good stuff though guys. To be honest, the nanohives need some attention. I'd like to see ammo, ammo/repair, and repair hives better balanced across the tiers. Or just a rework on equipment in general.
Cosgar ParagonX 6380	Posted - 2013.10.24 05:08:00 - [16] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Cosgar wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. That way people can pick and choose which they prefer. One that does both simultaneously but at a reduced rate it also a good idea. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! Good stuff though guys. To be honest, the nanohives need some attention. I'd like to see ammo, ammo/repair, and repair hives better balanced across the tiers. Or just a rework on equipment in general. More equipment too. Logistics is getting a bit tedious. I want bubble shields, sentry drones, deployable turrets, infantry webifiers, vehicle scramblers, anti-personnel mines, EM disruptors, and other gadgets to play with.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 928	Posted - 2013.10.24 05:53:00 - [17] - Quote Cosgar wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Cosgar wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. That way people can pick and choose which they prefer. One that does both simultaneously but at a reduced rate it also a good idea. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! Good stuff though guys. To be honest, the nanohives need some attention. I'd like to see ammo, ammo/repair, and repair hives better balanced across the tiers. Or just a rework on equipment in general. More equipment too. Logistics is getting a bit tedious. I want bubble shields, sentry drones, deployable turrets, infantry webifiers, vehicle scramblers, anti-personnel mines, EM disruptors, and other gadgets to play with. Well... when I was at the Dust514 Keynote at EVE Vegas they were showing off the new Market UI. While they did not mention it specifically, one of the items visible on said screen shot was "DRONES NOW AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE" So I think sentry drones are coming Soon(tm)
Grimmiers 0uter.Heaven 263	Posted - 2013.10.24 06:32:00 - [18] - Quote It needs to do both at once
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 864	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:58:00 - [19] - Quote IrishWebster wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: IrishWebster wrote: I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else?? Because its meant for healing and it would use the nanite clusters too quickly if it did. This would seriously fk with my medic logi fit. Dude, think about what you said. If you're looking to get both reps and resupply, you're going to use the same amount of clusters anyway. It will use them faster, this is true, but it will be getting the JOB DONE FASTER as well. Unless you ONLY want the reps, in which case, you seem to be alone, brother. I would personally like to see both reps and resupply simultaneously. So basically, we have a regular nanohive used for ammo, one for healing. Use the right nanohive. It's there to heal rather than re supply, no im alone in saying id be fked off when I equip a triarge hive to help heal and the bugger gives people ammo first, if it both at the sane time it would last a couple of seconds. Seriously this thread has to be troll, if not just use the correct nanohive, if your equipping a triarge when you need it for ammo then what do you think will happen lol,
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 864	Posted - 2013.10.24 07:59:00 - [20] - Quote Using a seriously tiny touchpad at the mo lol

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 864	Posted - 2013.10.24 08:01:00 - [21] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. That way people can pick and choose which they prefer. One that does both simultaneously but at a reduced rate it also a good idea. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! Good stuff though guys. To be honest, the nanohives need some attention. I'd like to see ammo, ammo/repair, and repair hives better balanced across the tiers. If that was the case there'd be no point in any hives but the re supply and heal simultaneously one.
Chumlee Chummington Red Star. EoN. 18	Posted - 2013.10.24 08:07:00 - [22] - Quote It would be nice if it were customizable. One setting to do resupply and rep at the same time at the expense of being depleted quickly, or another 2 settings favoring resupply over rep or vice versa. This could be changed in the loadout screen according to player or squad preference.
Cosgar ParagonX 6391	Posted - 2013.10.24 08:16:00 - [23] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Cosgar wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. That way people can pick and choose which they prefer. One that does both simultaneously but at a reduced rate it also a good idea. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! Good stuff though guys. To be honest, the nanohives need some attention. I'd like to see ammo, ammo/repair, and repair hives better balanced across the tiers. If that was the case there'd be no point in any hives but the re supply and heal simultaneously one. That's when you scale them based on repair rate, nanite clusters, how many you can carry, and ammo and/or HP replenished instead of something trivial like an extra 0.7m radius for the same price. Seriously, who the hell uses Ishukone flux nanohives?
ILLUSIONxox RAINING HEAVY'S 16	Posted - 2013.10.24 08:31:00 - [24] - Quote IrishWebster wrote: I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else?? I Agree , They should do all that at one time i mean come the fuk on ccp its not that epic to make it heal and restore ammo atleast let it do that at proto .....................man this game is screwd up i dont know how much longer im gonna play this. between ccp's bullsh.it and the stupidity of the players online runnning around like chickens with there head cut off .
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 725	Posted - 2013.10.24 09:47:00 - [25] - Quote ILLUSIONxox wrote: IrishWebster wrote: I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else?? I Agree , They should do all that at one time i mean come the fuk on ccp its not that epic to make it heal and restore ammo atleast let it do that at proto .....................man this game is screwd up i dont know how much longer im gonna play this. between ccp's bullsh.it and the stupidity of the players online runnning around like chickens with there head cut off . bye. Sure it would be nice to have one variant which does repairing and resupplying at the same time but it would have to be carefully designed so it wouldn't be OP. What about if you have full armor? The hive would switch to resupply only, preserving the nanite clusters? Or should it just spew everything (repair) out regardless if you need it or not?
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1083	Posted - 2013.10.24 11:22:00 - [26] - Quote Cosgar wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Cosgar wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Or if you want to maintain the current types, have another repair nanohive that does ammo first and armor second. That way people can pick and choose which they prefer. One that does both simultaneously but at a reduced rate it also a good idea. I'm all for augmenting choices, not replacing them! Good stuff though guys. To be honest, the nanohives need some attention. I'd like to see ammo, ammo/repair, and repair hives better balanced across the tiers. Or just a rework on equipment in general. More equipment too. Logistics is getting a bit tedious. I want bubble shields, sentry drones, deployable turrets, infantry webifiers, vehicle scramblers, anti-personnel mines, EM disruptors, and other gadgets to play with. I know. What is even more interesting than the actual options that CCP can give us is the way in which mercs use them. There are so many different equipment modules that could be useful and fun that I almost giggle at what the future of the game holds.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1083	Posted - 2013.10.24 11:23:00 - [27] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: ILLUSIONxox wrote: IrishWebster wrote: I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else?? I Agree , They should do all that at one time i mean come the fuk on ccp its not that epic to make it heal and restore ammo atleast let it do that at proto .....................man this game is screwd up i dont know how much longer im gonna play this. between ccp's bullsh.it and the stupidity of the players online runnning around like chickens with there head cut off . bye. Sure it would be nice to have one variant which does repairing and resupplying at the same time but it would have to be carefully designed so it wouldn't be OP. What about if you have full armor? The hive would switch to resupply only, preserving the nanite clusters? Or should it just spew everything (repair) out regardless if you need it or not? Spew it all. Convenience comes with a price.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 1135	Posted - 2013.10.24 11:41:00 - [28] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Seriously, who the hell uses Ishukone flux nanohives? These things need a serious buff. The reason why CCP hasn't looked into them is because nanohive spammers buy them, so they skew the market for what isn't used a lot. Although I do wonder what CCP thinks about sleek locus grenades.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4166	Posted - 2013.10.24 11:51:00 - [29] - Quote IrishWebster wrote: I don't quite understand why they can't do both simultaneously. Anyone else?? This. I mean, they restock multiple ammo types simultaneously already.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1183	Posted - 2013.10.24 14:34:00 - [30] - Quote Wow just wow......op is upset because trieage or compact hives prioritise repairs .... wow really just wow. I dont think I have facepalmd so much since watching ancient aliens.



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