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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4070
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:02:00 -
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It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? |

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
186
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:05:00 -
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I first heard OMGWTFBBQ!? when practicing "fury of the storm" on GH Warriors of Rock on Expert. that was the name of the section, a very good name for the section...
anyway, its already starting. check some recent topics. for your sake I hope it doesn't get nerfed. I have prof. to 5 in ScR and never use it  |

Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
793
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:06:00 -
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DONT YOU DARE GET MY SCR NERFED YOU SL*TS!!!!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4070
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:07:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I first heard OMGWTFBBQ!? when practicing "fury of the storm" on GH Warriors of Rock on Expert. that was the name of the section, a very good name for the section... anyway, its already starting. check some recent topics. for your sake I hope it doesn't get nerfed. I have prof. to 5 in ScR and never use it 
I have prof 5 too, so I'm probably not objective, but as someone who's used it pretty much since it came out it's just sad. |

Grimmiers
0uter.Heaven
258
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:08:00 -
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I think you secretly want a nerf for it. Why else would you even mention it if no one has even complained yet? |

XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
390
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:09:00 -
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Without the Amarr suit bonus it is well balanced. With the bonus it is godly. But that is kind of the point isn't it? You really notice the extra shots in a tough situation. |

Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4070
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:09:00 -
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Grimmiers wrote:I think you secretly want a nerf for it. Why else would you even mention it if no one has even complained yet? People are starting to complain. What prompted this thread was seeing a few people complain about it in another thread. |

Cosgar
ParagonX
6330
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:10:00 -
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Grimmiers wrote:I think you secretly want a nerf for it. Why else would you even mention it if no one has even complained yet?
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1174
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:10:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? Perhaps...
Just MAYBE
More and More people are complaining
because more and more people are flocking to it
because more and more people are realizing that the weapon is OP.
When you have a very large portion of the playerbase flocking to a weapon even though it is not necessarily their first weapon of choice, and you begin to see that weapon more and more in every match, it indicates there is an imbalance with the weapon.
Reference Flaylock Pistols, Core Locus Grenades, Mass Drivers, 1.0 Tac AR for further study. |

Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4070
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:11:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Grimmiers wrote:I think you secretly want a nerf for it. Why else would you even mention it if no one has even complained yet? I guess you should look at the post below yours for an example of someone complaining about it. |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1174
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I first heard OMGWTFBBQ!? when practicing "fury of the storm" on GH Warriors of Rock on Expert. that was the name of the section, a very good name for the section... anyway, its already starting. check some recent topics. for your sake I hope it doesn't get nerfed. I have prof. to 5 in ScR and never use it  I have prof 5 too, so I'm probably not objective, but as someone who's used it pretty much since it came out it's just sad. While I do truly feel for you, you had to know it was only a matter of time before everyone realized that it was OP and flocked to the gun.
Now it is becoming an epidemic. |

Chit Hoppened
Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors
69
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:13:00 -
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The way I see it, purty much all the Amarr stuff is spot on. Command'ohs need some tweaking, but other than that, all of their **** should be left alone. All other races need to get their **** together and be on their level. But that's just me.
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
576
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:15:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? Perhaps... Just MAYBE More and More people are complaining because more and more people are flocking to it because more and more people are realizing that the weapon is OP. When you have a very large portion of the playerbase flocking to a weapon even though it is not necessarily their first weapon of choice, and you begin to see that weapon more and more in every match, it indicates there is an imbalance with the weapon. Reference Flaylock Pistols, Core Locus Grenades, Mass Drivers, 1.0 Tac AR for further study. So, the AR should be nerfed too, right? |

Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
620
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:17:00 -
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Don't touch my baby |

Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1226
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:17:00 -
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I hope not, I don't use it but I don't think the assault version is a better then a AR and that's coming from a AR user.
Though I do think the semi auto needs a range buff. The Assault version range is fine. |

Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1176
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:19:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cosgar wrote:Grimmiers wrote:I think you secretly want a nerf for it. Why else would you even mention it if no one has even complained yet? I guess you should look at the post below yours for an example of someone complaining about it. I never complained about the Scr Rifles before. When people are using a weapon because they genuinely like the weapon there really is not a problem.
The problem arises when tryhard statwhores realize that a weapon outperforms other weapons in it's class and begins to flock to the weapon simply because it is overpowered. Then they all go tell their friends "hey guys this thing is beastly OP you should spec it up and we can all go on a rampage with it"
Seriously, literally overnight these things were everywhere. They didn't appear in various tiers here and there, there were instantly full Proto Scr Rifle squads running in nearly every match. This is a major red flag. |

Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
4070
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:19:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I hope not, I don't use it but I don't think the assault version is a better then a AR and that's coming from a AR user.
Though I do think the semi auto needs a range buff. The Assault version range is fine.
Nah, I don't think the semi-auto needs a range buff. It's fine where it is, really. |

Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1176
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:21:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? Perhaps... Just MAYBE More and More people are complaining because more and more people are flocking to it because more and more people are realizing that the weapon is OP. When you have a very large portion of the playerbase flocking to a weapon even though it is not necessarily their first weapon of choice, and you begin to see that weapon more and more in every match, it indicates there is an imbalance with the weapon. Reference Flaylock Pistols, Core Locus Grenades, Mass Drivers, 1.0 Tac AR for further study. So, the AR should be nerfed too, right?  Yes, it probably should. I only have a Gek with Op 3 and SS 3, no damage mods and I beast proto Heavies with it. |

Cosgar
ParagonX
6330
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cosgar wrote:Grimmiers wrote:I think you secretly want a nerf for it. Why else would you even mention it if no one has even complained yet? I guess you should look at the post below yours for an example of someone complaining about it. It's almost an unwritten rule that you don't discuss what the butthurt brigade is after. |

CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1209
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:10:00 -
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No, not until the AR gets its range nerfed down to 35m and then 80#% damage falloff at 36m. Hahahaha!
I like the SCR. It's too damn hard to use so it's fine as is. If it does seem better, it's just the AA that made the AR even more OP. |
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Aisha Ctarl
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1555
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Posted - 2013.10.22 16:30:00 -
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I enjoy the hatemail I get when I OHK medium suits with it.
If only I could get my hands on the Templar SCR code......... |

TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
844
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:04:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:No, not until the AR gets its range nerfed down to 35m and then 80#% damage falloff at 36m. Hahahaha!  I like the SCR. It's too damn hard to use so it's fine as is. If it does seem better, it's just the AA that made the AR even more OP.
Lies, only a scrub would find it hard to use and you are no scrub. |

Sleepy Zan
Sumar Gorp
2583
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:31:00 -
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SCR is powerful but the thing overheats pretty damn fast.
my opinion, balanced
besides I'm sure it's the shield tankers that are crying not so much the armor guys |

HYENAKILLER X
Da Short Buss
311
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:04:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? They will never nerf the ar or scr ar because you will always have a fighting chance against them. They do not one hit kill like the old flaylock or current mass driver. They are not super fast and indestructable like old lavs. They are just good weapons. |

Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
303
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:29:00 -
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I don't like running into them but I don't think they're OP but then again I run around in a Minnie logi fit barely scratching 500 total health with an smg because CCP hasn't given me my damn combat rifle yet so what do I know. |

echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:38:00 -
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The scope is what makes it deadly. Spot on accuracy compared to ADS on an AR, but don't nerf them. I hate them but I don't think they should be nerfed. I have had all I cant take with nerfs and no new weapons or suits. More nerfs as a response to QQ and "balance" means I move on. |

Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
506
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:07:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I first heard OMGWTFBBQ!? when practicing "fury of the storm" on GH Warriors of Rock on Expert. that was the name of the section, a very good name for the section... anyway, its already starting. check some recent topics. for your sake I hope it doesn't get nerfed. I have prof. to 5 in ScR and never use it  I have prof 5 too, so I'm probably not objective, but as someone who's used it pretty much since it came out it's just sad. While I do truly feel for you, you had to know it was only a matter of time before everyone realized that it was OP and flocked to the gun. Now it is becoming an epidemic.
Here you go again QQ'ing.
You are sad.
Learn to die less. |

Novawolf McDustingham The514th
The Official Mintchip Fanclub
361
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:09:00 -
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They should bring back the Replication HMG, then you'd see QQing... |

Cosgar
ParagonX
6339
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:12:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:SCR is powerful but the thing overheats pretty damn fast.
my opinion, balanced
besides I'm sure it's the shield tankers that are crying not so much the armor guys Who shield tanks anymore? 1.4 and onward has been about omnitanking. |

IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
236
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:26:00 -
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Its been about omnitanking since the beginning.
SCR is great where it is at....you can't use the weapon platform without the amarr suit bonuses. Which should be happening with the other suit tiers IMO and likley to come down the line as CCP iterates on the mechanics and technical glitches associated with giving mods (& more importantly equipment) a bonus. |
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
478
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:30:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? Listen if you skill into to proficiency of any weapon it becomes powerful. Thats the point. Any one who cries about high damage or dying quick needs to stop playing this game and go play a disney game or something. The award for skilling solely into one weapon is absolute power! I am a md user and i have to say this. I believe the scr needs a little more power. |

Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1188
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:43:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I first heard OMGWTFBBQ!? when practicing "fury of the storm" on GH Warriors of Rock on Expert. that was the name of the section, a very good name for the section... anyway, its already starting. check some recent topics. for your sake I hope it doesn't get nerfed. I have prof. to 5 in ScR and never use it  I have prof 5 too, so I'm probably not objective, but as someone who's used it pretty much since it came out it's just sad. While I do truly feel for you, you had to know it was only a matter of time before everyone realized that it was OP and flocked to the gun. Now it is becoming an epidemic. Here you go again QQ'ing. You are sad. Learn to die less. What do you do follow me around the forums? Get a life. |

Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1188
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:45:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? Listen if you skill into to proficiency of any weapon it becomes powerful. Thats the point. Any one who cries about high damage or dying quick needs to stop playing this game and go play a disney game or something. The award for skilling solely into one weapon is absolute power! I am a md user and i have to say this. I believe the scr needs a little more power. Not according to my HMG with Prof. 5 and 2 comp damage mods |

Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2089
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Posted - 2013.10.22 19:53:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I first heard OMGWTFBBQ!? when practicing "fury of the storm" on GH Warriors of Rock on Expert. that was the name of the section, a very good name for the section... anyway, its already starting. check some recent topics. for your sake I hope it doesn't get nerfed. I have prof. to 5 in ScR and never use it  I have prof 5 too, so I'm probably not objective, but as someone who's used it pretty much since it came out it's just sad. While I do truly feel for you, you had to know it was only a matter of time before everyone realized that it was OP and flocked to the gun. Now it is becoming an epidemic. Here you go again QQ'ing. You are sad. Learn to die less. What do you do follow me around the forums? Get a life. No you've only been QQing about the ScR all day. It would be hard not to find one of your ScR QQ posts. |

Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
508
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:24:00 -
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[/quote] What do you do follow me around the forums? Get a life.[/quote] No you've only been QQing about the ScR all day. It would be hard not to find one of your ScR QQ posts.[/quote]
^This. |

Meeko Fent
expert intervention Caldari State
1247
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:35:00 -
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Reason the ScR is balanced?
You OH after 15-ish shots.
You miss like 5 or 6, and you might not be able to muscle it through the armor before you OH and are a sitting duck for even the lowly PLC.
AR, you spew 60 shots, and reload, switch to an SMG and mow them down, or you melee the guy, or you sprint away.
You can't do any of that with the ScR.
That is why the ScR is finely balanced. |

Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1623
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:39:00 -
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These qqs are made for crying
And that's just what they'll do
And one of these days those tears gonna nerf your weapon too
Yea put me down on the bet. The QQ tour is always on the move |

Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2282
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Posted - 2013.10.22 23:46:00 -
[38] - Quote
90% of the DUST community wrote:
I think anything that I am weak against deserves a nerf.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3020
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:03:00 -
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I notice nearly all the complainers are Minmatar FW players. Either that, or players upset because it beat their AR at mid-range. And then there's the people who are all "Isn't armor supposed to resist this weapon?" It does, but it only resists 20% (80% of the damage still applies, i.e. most of it). That said, I have started to see a lot of Minmatar suits armor tanking and it's been giving me nightmares. Except Minmatar scouts, of course. Those guys are always going to be a 1 charge shot kill  |

low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
736
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:04:00 -
[40] - Quote
when the other rifles are introduced the lr will probably get it's range pushed out, and the scr will probably get it's range shortened. |
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Blaze Ashra
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:11:00 -
[41] - Quote
I just see it as AR users deflecting attention onto the Scrambler Rifle in an effort to keep it from being nerfed. |

Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3020
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:13:00 -
[42] - Quote
low genius wrote:when the other rifles are introduced the lr will probably get it's range pushed out, and the scr will probably get it's range shortened. The laser rifle isn't actually in the same class of weapons. Yes it has the word "rifle" in it's name, but so does the sniper rifle.
The class of weapons in discussion include exclusively the assault rifle, scrambler rifle, combat rifle (coming 1.7), and rail rifle (coming 1.7). |

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
190
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:29:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:I first heard OMGWTFBBQ!? when practicing "fury of the storm" on GH Warriors of Rock on Expert. that was the name of the section, a very good name for the section... anyway, its already starting. check some recent topics. for your sake I hope it doesn't get nerfed. I have prof. to 5 in ScR and never use it  I have prof 5 too, so I'm probably not objective, but as someone who's used it pretty much since it came out it's just sad. yeah i understand. i wouldn't be surprised if it got some kind of nerf though. i mean, its ccp, the same people who nerfed NOVA KNIVES. THEY NERFED NOVA KNIVES. when the AR boys begin complaining, there's no stopping the nerf hammer in the world of AR 514.
best of luck to you Wyrnspire. keep one shotting my squishy ass while you can, and i'll keep trying to SG you in the back.  |

Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:30:00 -
[44] - Quote
I started an ALT that uses the SCR...(because I get bored so I create alts that can use diff weapons...I refuse to use AUR)
If anything it needs a BUFF.... :P
AlsoI say one should be able to throw gernades and switch weapons if it over heats..
AR idiots ONLY use AR and believe they should dominate because it is the classical weapon (I am not an AR idiot my MAIN is AR but I have plent of alts)..and scream nerf without ever trying the weapon..So they never know about shooting a MD UPwards...or the SCR over heating...guaranteed most AR only people didnt even know the SCR heated up..or that when it is cooling down you can't swtich weapons or throw a nade.....I must say SCR takes 5x the skills of an AR..
Those people who OWN with SCR...I salute you...cuz that **** is HARD |

Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1627
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:34:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:I just see it as AR users deflecting attention onto the Scrambler Rifle in an effort to keep it from being nerfed.
Oh there's no attempt for the attempt is futile. The crys of the community has been heard. The AR will get nerfed, I'm sure of it. According to history, I'm spot on.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3023
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:36:00 -
[46] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:I just see it as AR users deflecting attention onto the Scrambler Rifle in an effort to keep it from being nerfed. Oh there's no attempt for the attempt is futile. The crys of the community has been heard. The AR will get nerfed, I'm sure of it. According to history, I'm spot on. CCP already confirmed they will be adjusting both the assault rifle and scrambler rifle in 1.7 with the addition of the combat rifle and rail rifle, so you're probably right. |

Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1630
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:39:00 -
[47] - Quote
Michael Arck is now sad... |

Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3024
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:47:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Michael Arck is now sad... It'll probably be for the best though, so all the four rifles excel in one thing with little overlap.
Assault Rifle: Best close range rifle Scrambler Rifle: Best mid range rifle Rail Rifle: Best long range rifle Combat Rifle: Jack of all trades, master of none rifle
Sounds good to me, especially if there is a respec (since vehicle changes and new dropsuits should be hitting at the same time). |

Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1000
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:50:00 -
[49] - Quote
I think its simply the right of passage of all weapons to experience a nerf...
its like battle scars and it builds character. |

Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1632
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:55:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Michael Arck is now sad... It'll probably be for the best though, so all the four rifles excel in one thing with little overlap. Assault Rifle: Best close range rifle Scrambler Rifle: Best mid range rifle Rail Rifle: Best long range rifle Combat Rifle: Jack of all trades, master of none rifle Sounds good to me, especially if there is a respec (since vehicle changes and new dropsuits should be hitting at the same time).
I expected the new weapons, yes. The nerfing of the range because people won't adapt, I did and didn't. Oh well, I will still stick to my AR. I have no other choice. |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1684
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Posted - 2013.10.23 00:57:00 -
[51] - Quote
There are people that are really good with them, but I've NEVER heard anyone utter "SCR needs nerfed" |

Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1237
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:02:00 -
[52] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Michael Arck is now sad... It'll probably be for the best though, so all the four rifles excel in one thing with little overlap. Assault Rifle: Best close range rifle Scrambler Rifle: Best mid range rifle Rail Rifle: Best long range rifle Combat Rifle: Jack of all trades, master of none rifle Sounds good to me, especially if there is a respec (since vehicle changes and new dropsuits should be hitting at the same time). I expected the new weapons, yes. The nerfing of the range because people won't adapt, I did and didn't. Oh well, I will still stick to my AR. I have no other choice. I get why it has to be done, and I'm happy actually. I'm just gonna need a good mid range replacement. Sadly there is no hybrid like that.
I'm also kind of wondering if they will make the ScR worst at close range. |

Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
872
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? Watched it get nerfed. Honestly, the AR and Scrambler both need some incentive (besides damage) to getting to Proto level. I would no longer use the Scrambler if it got nerfed.
But my bets are really on SMGs :D |

Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
296
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:26:00 -
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SMH SCRAMBLER RIFLES ARE OP!
They can counter my AR. I shouldn't be KOd with a headshot if someone's not in my optimal range.
They are effective against shields!
And they can easily switch weapons after an overheat!
This BS must stop
We need to ensure that the AR is the king of light weapons!
I don't want diversity in COD514.
All aboard the nerf train! |

Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
The only gun that needs a nerf is the sniper rifle...PERIOD...:P Or just redo the maps so they cannot red line... |

Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2098
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:36:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Michael Arck is now sad... It'll probably be for the best though, so all the four rifles excel in one thing with little overlap. Assault Rifle: Best close range rifle Scrambler Rifle: Best mid range rifle Rail Rifle: Best long range rifle Combat Rifle: Jack of all trades, master of none rifle Sounds good to me, especially if there is a respec (since vehicle changes and new dropsuits should be hitting at the same time). Hopefully they finally rename the Assault Rifle to the Plasma Rifle or something. |

8213
Grade No.2
496
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Posted - 2013.10.23 01:43:00 -
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I haven't heard to much talk about it getting a nerf. Before I used it, I asked if it was OP. I thought it was a little... then I used it.
Turns out it IS OP AS F*CK! Its OP because I use it!
I got at least one letter in game per day hating me because of the gun. Typically, an AR user, and someone who finished below me.
Some facts about FPS: 1. You'll never get called a tryhard from someone who finished above you on the scoreboard. 2. The person at the top of the leaderboard will not give credit to anything more than themselves. |

CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1219
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Posted - 2013.10.23 03:15:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? They will never nerf the ar or scr ar because you will always have a fighting chance against them. They do not one hit kill like the old flaylock or current mass driver. They are not super fast and indestructable like old lavs. They are just good weapons.
i have a freedom mass driver and i put 3 damage mods on it...never once have i ohk'd anything except a scout suit thati hit direct. stop making things up.
the scr is to shields as the md is to armor. you never hear gallente players crying about the scr or laser. ever. and vise versa |

CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1219
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Posted - 2013.10.23 03:16:00 -
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Dachande Anasazi wrote:The only gun that needs a nerf is the sniper rifle...PERIOD...:P Or just redo the maps so they cannot red line... if you're getting stomped by a sniper, you're a very bad player OR it's grease or gem cutter with the rifle. |

Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2208
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Posted - 2013.10.23 03:24:00 -
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Nah, its gonna be the Rail Rifle assuming it actually does come patch after next |
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Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
432
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Posted - 2013.10.23 03:25:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Seriously, literally overnight these things were everywhere. They didn't appear in various tiers here and there, there were instantly full Proto Scr Rifle squads running in nearly every match. This is a major red flag. In theory the Devs will only deal with weapons that they can point at a chart and say, "here is the problem."
One troublesome thing I've noticed on these forums is people make claims that don't necessarily match up when playing the game. Yet still claim something to be universally true. |

Sleepy Zan
Sumar Gorp
2589
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Posted - 2013.10.23 04:11:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:SCR is powerful but the thing overheats pretty damn fast.
my opinion, balanced
besides I'm sure it's the shield tankers that are crying not so much the armor guys Who shield tanks anymore? 1.4 and onward has been about omnitanking.  Oh... I.... no one ever told me  |

Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
27
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:32:00 -
[63] - Quote
CharCharOdell wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:The only gun that needs a nerf is the sniper rifle...PERIOD...:P Or just redo the maps so they cannot red line... if you're getting stomped by a sniper, you're a very bad player OR it's grease or gem cutter with the rifle.
grease or gem cutter??? |

steadyhand amarr
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1626
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Posted - 2013.10.23 15:09:00 -
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Scr is fine but other wepones need addressing around it. And the flock will die off Its just because everyone is chatting about it at the moment |

Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
479
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Posted - 2013.10.23 16:20:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? Listen if you skill into to proficiency of any weapon it becomes powerful. Thats the point. Any one who cries about high damage or dying quick needs to stop playing this game and go play a disney game or something. The award for skilling solely into one weapon is absolute power! I am a md user and i have to say this. I believe the scr needs a little more power. Not according to my HMG with Prof. 5 and 2 comp damage mods You have to crouch -_-. Any Hamster would know this. you are a hamster right? Btw the hmg is kinda like a point defense weapon. You heavy hamsters arent really meant for long range combat.  |

Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
97
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:20:00 -
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Dachande Anasazi wrote:I started an ALT that uses the SCR...(because I get bored so I create alts that can use diff weapons...I refuse to use AUR)
If anything it needs a BUFF.... :P
AlsoI say one should be able to throw gernades and switch weapons if it over heats..
AR idiots ONLY use AR and believe they should dominate because it is the classical weapon (I am not an AR idiot my MAIN is AR but I have plent of alts)..and scream nerf without ever trying the weapon..So they never know about shooting a MD UPwards...or the SCR over heating...guaranteed most AR only people didnt even know the SCR heated up..or that when it is cooling down you can't swtich weapons or throw a nade.....I must say SCR takes 5x the skills of an AR..
Those people who OWN with SCR...I salute you...cuz that **** is HARD
Please stop spreading truth. THE ARS WILL HUNT YOU DOWN!! |

Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
1095
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:26:00 -
[67] - Quote
Not too sure if it's OP or not, it seems to fit in pretty well. If I had to see it changed, I'd say less shots per clip or less fire rate would be good nerfs, and more range or more headshot multiplier would be good buffs.
That's the SCR, mind. The ASCR I don't give two ***** about and don't have the usage experience to say how to deal with it :p
Also, as a note, the AR nerf is plain knowledge by now, as it's been moved back twice. The AR crown that use the forums are probably trying to find a new weapon to latch on to. |

matsumoto yuichi san
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
23
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:29:00 -
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it's totally fine,
it overheats it has kick it has terrible hipfire highest fitting costs single shot
for decent range good damage red dot sight
at ya know OH lets you... walk
not run not swap not punch walk
and jump a bit, but the stamina cost so high not a big thing
totally fine
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
1095
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:31:00 -
[69] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? Listen if you skill into to proficiency of any weapon it becomes powerful. Thats the point. Any one who cries about high damage or dying quick needs to stop playing this game and go play a disney game or something. The award for skilling solely into one weapon is absolute power! I am a md user and i have to say this. I believe the scr needs a little more power. Not according to my HMG with Prof. 5 and 2 comp damage mods You have to crouch -_-. Any Hamster would know this. you are a hamster right? Btw the hmg is kinda like a point defense weapon. You heavy hamsters arent really meant for long range combat. 
You shouldn't have to crouch to make the HMG viable. If it's just to decrease your profile and make it harder for enemies to hit that's one thing, but if you have to do that to make the gun accurate at it's intended range something is wrong. If it were a gun with a bi/tripod then that would be one thing, or a gun that fires at extreme range like the Sniper Rifle, then set-up time would be an obvious thing... but here, the HMG can't even function at medium range, or at least not ti the same degree as a Blaster Light weapon, which is sad. Boundless Creation should be ashamed of their shoddy work. |

Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
310
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
CharCharOdell wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It seems that more and more people are complaining about the SCR now.
It's a bit sad, really. I distinctly recall it being hailed as a well-balanced weapon for a long time after its release. I guess the QQ train has no brakes.
What do you think? Is it OMGWTFBBQ OP NERF NERF NERF? Is it likely to be in the path of the QQ train? Is it fine? They will never nerf the ar or scr ar because you will always have a fighting chance against them. They do not one hit kill like the old flaylock or current mass driver. They are not super fast and indestructable like old lavs. They are just good weapons. i have a freedom mass driver and i put 3 damage mods on it...never once have i ohk'd anything except a scout suit thati hit direct. stop making things up. the scr is to shields as the md is to armor. you never hear gallente players crying about the scr or laser. ever. and vise versa Proficiency level? Damage Mod Type?
[Advice]:
If you aren't using a complex damage mod, then don't stack them.
If you are using complex damage mods, then never stack more than two. Unless you armor tank you will lose lots of HP, and risk becoming a glass cannon
Proficiency Skill>Damage Mods
Try using flux grenades with your Mass Driver fitting |
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Dachande Anasazi
DUST University Ivy League
28
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Posted - 2013.10.23 17:53:00 -
[71] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:SCR is powerful but the thing overheats pretty damn fast.
my opinion, balanced
besides I'm sure it's the shield tankers that are crying not so much the armor guys Who shield tanks anymore? 1.4 and onward has been about omnitanking.  Oh... I.... no one ever told me 
SHiled tank as in using a shield HAV..or shield tanking in using shileds more thna armors in ur drop suit...Because no one told me either... |

Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
98
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:50:00 -
[72] - Quote
Go ahead nerf the Scr. Scr users have skill it won't matter.As far as the Ar users go thats a rude awakening when their golden gun is gone. |
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