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Cosgar ParagonX 6280	Posted - 2013.10.21 22:55:00 - [31] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: No, I make calculated shots and compensate for ballistics physics on the fly with the MD. You apparently seemed to make the mistake by treating it like an AR. Don't hide in corners and don't bunny hop- it only makes you easier to hit. The AR has too many advantages compared to the MD since 1.4 and if you can't unload your ungodly amounts of DPS from laser range while someone is lobbing slow moving grenades at you, the problem is on your end. Anyone that can get anything done with a MD recently has my respect, especially since there's no aim assist for it. You don't know how I play which you,you assume.. just like I did you and it seems you prove me wrong but how do I know you play like that? And if we are on equal ground and you can hit around the corner that is a bit OP if you ask me. And AR's range also needs to be fixed well almost every weapon needs to be fixed in a sense.. And congrats you are praising people who spam and "gets things done" xD You make me laugh. It's called a fair assumption. I've been using the MD since Chromosome and seen just about any excuse, most of which come from people that treat it like another hitscan weapon. It's very situational and in most cases, still gets overpowered by generalist weapons within its own niche. There's also the issue of DPS vs alpha damage weapons that many people don't understand either. If you start taking damage from a MD, don't sit there- get the hell out! Obviously it pisses you off, but that's what the MD is designed to do because it's a terror weapon, meant to terrorize you.
Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 2	Posted - 2013.10.21 22:56:00 - [32] - Quote Bittersteel the Bastard wrote: wat no...just... wat So I guess you either like being spammed or you love MD
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 821	Posted - 2013.10.21 22:59:00 - [33] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: I don't like the MD and I know this thread will be ignored so I support this nerrf, somebody get that man a hotdog! Lol I try but the thing is there are good MD users out there but those who spammers I have a gripe with just like Snipers/Forges/lazers/scramblers (Even though I tested out all the weapons) xD It is a spamming weapon other than long range shots, I have prof 3 in MD but I find it boring.
Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 2	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:01:00 - [34] - Quote That figures you're protecting your love well I guess you never ran into a MD yourself.. Either you get blown up or run and still get blown up and it doesn't terrorize me just a broken weapon like most weapons on this game. If you love the MD so much how about I put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger? That would make my day even better :D
Thor McStrut Reckoners 243	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:06:00 - [35] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Another for the pile of I'm not kicking ass so something has to be nerfed. Yeah,yeah,yeah all I see here is people think I'm stupid or whatever but I got killed by a mass driver that was around the corner.. the spammer never even got to see me vise versa.. I'm fine with kicking ass but some of this stuff is being abused and I'm sick of it. And to make things even better they can be spammed from a pretty decent range (longest meters for me was 120m) Suck it *****. That was all skill too. I'm boss with the MD... LOL, no. That was me screwing around, then choosing to snipe one person, then went back to AFKing with my MD. TBH, the MD is in a great place right now. I don't use the MD as much as I used to, since I'm playing a lot with the GK burst AR in preparation for the Combat Rifle's release. But I still revert to using it in challenging games, and in matches were the enemies aren't respecting proper formation. When you get redberries bunching up behind cover, I take my death with dignity and bring out the EXO to exact punishment and remind them of proper flanking and fall-back maneuvers. In the end though, I'll continue to adapt my MD gameplay to whatever changes the Devs bring down on us, while the rest of you continue to scurry around as usual and whine when you die. Hope to see you on the battlefield, o7
Thor McStrut Reckoners 243	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:07:00 - [36] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: That figures you're protecting your love well I guess you never ran into a MD yourself.. Either you get blown up or run and still get blown up and it doesn't terrorize me just a broken weapon like most weapons on this game. If you love the MD so much how about I put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger? That would make my day even better :D Wow... That's just uncalled for.
Cosgar ParagonX 6282	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:07:00 - [37] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: It's called a fair assumption. I've been using the MD since Chromosome and seen just about any excuse, most of which come from people that treat it like another hitscan weapon. It's very situational and in most cases, still gets overpowered by generalist weapons within its own niche. There's also the issue of DPS vs alpha damage weapons that many people don't understand either. If you start taking damage from a MD, don't sit there- get the hell out! Obviously it pisses you off, but that's what the MD is designed to do because it's a terror weapon, meant to terrorize you. That figures you're protecting your love well I guess you never ran into a MD yourself.. Either you get blown up or run and still get blown up and it doesn't terrorize me just a broken weapon like most weapons on this game. If you love the MD so much how about I put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger? That would make my day even better :D I used to run into wannabe massholes all the time. They run around with their EXO-5 like it's a damn shotgun, trying to jump over their own blast radius. I usually sit back and take them out with a few direct hits from +40m. It doesn't terrorize me because I use it and understand it- something you might want to try before coming on the forums whining. I have Prof 5 and guess what? I get more kills with a militia AR because it's situational, not a good 1v1 weapon, shoots delayed rounds, and has the worst ammo management, only rivaled by the plasma cannon.
Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 2	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:15:00 - [38] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Crash Monster wrote: Another for the pile of I'm not kicking ass so something has to be nerfed. Yeah,yeah,yeah all I see here is people think I'm stupid or whatever but I got killed by a mass driver that was around the corner.. the spammer never even got to see me vise versa.. I'm fine with kicking ass but some of this stuff is being abused and I'm sick of it. And to make things even better they can be spammed from a pretty decent range (longest meters for me was 120m) Suck it *****. That was all skill too. I'm boss with the MD... LOL, no. That was me screwing around, then choosing to snipe one person, then went back to AFKing with my MD. TBH, the MD is in a great place right now. I don't use the MD as much as I used to, since I'm playing a lot with the GK burst AR in preparation for the Combat Rifle's release. But I still revert to using it in challenging games, and in matches were the enemies aren't respecting proper formation. When you get redberries bunching up behind cover, I take my death with dignity and bring out the EXO to exact punishment and remind them of proper flanking and fall-back maneuvers. In the end though, I'll continue to adapt my MD gameplay to whatever changes the Devs bring down on us, while the rest of you continue to scurry around as usual and whine when you die. Hope to see you on the battlefield, o7 As long as you aren't spamming or a protobear I am fine with you and hope to see you on the battlefield. :D
Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 2	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:23:00 - [39] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: It's called a fair assumption. I've been using the MD since Chromosome and seen just about any excuse, most of which come from people that treat it like another hitscan weapon. It's very situational and in most cases, still gets overpowered by generalist weapons within its own niche. There's also the issue of DPS vs alpha damage weapons that many people don't understand either. If you start taking damage from a MD, don't sit there- get the hell out! Obviously it pisses you off, but that's what the MD is designed to do because it's a terror weapon, meant to terrorize you. That figures you're protecting your love well I guess you never ran into a MD yourself.. Either you get blown up or run and still get blown up and it doesn't terrorize me just a broken weapon like most weapons on this game. If you love the MD so much how about I put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger? That would make my day even better :D I used to run into wannabe massholes all the time. They run around with their EXO-5 like it's a damn shotgun, trying to jump over their own blast radius. I usually sit back and take them out with a few direct hits from +40m. It doesn't terrorize me because I use it and understand it- something you might want to try before coming on the forums whining. I have Prof 5 and guess what? I get more kills with a militia AR because it's situational, not a good 1v1 weapon, shoots delayed rounds, and has the worst ammo management, only rivaled by the plasma cannon. You are showing your inner "masshole" I guess I appreciate the explanation but tell me how you deal with them in CCC? I don't cry about this kind of stuff I'm just sharing my experiences with these weapons and why I believed they should nerfed I can do down the lists with the other weapons if you want me to. :) And if you want to bring a militia AR into this I believe I got 33 kill and 3 deaths with one.. they aren't good but they aren't bad..
Thor McStrut Reckoners 244	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:28:00 - [40] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: As long as you aren't spamming or a protobear I am fine with you and hope to see you on the battlefield. :D I can get a little spammy when I'm startled. Walking around a corner into a heavy or two with squadmates gets my heart racing. I'll unload what I got (<=6) as I back-peddle out of there. Also, in particular, that map with the bridge. It often gets to be clogged up on either end, so I send shells into the cover. I'm not trying to get kills, but they come, I'm trying to pin them down and force them out the other side so they can get AR'd to death. But no, no Proto for me. Adv gear and suits, and with that, I don't sacrifice my tank to fit Proto weapons, even though they're skilled as such.

Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 2	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:28:00 - [41] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: That figures you're protecting your love well I guess you never ran into a MD yourself.. Either you get blown up or run and still get blown up and it doesn't terrorize me just a broken weapon like most weapons on this game. If you love the MD so much how about I put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger? That would make my day even better :D Wow... That's just uncalled for. Maybe but some of these people need this kind of response since they think they weapon is perfect and it's broken.. (Won't say broken beyond all belief but it got better but not balanced)
Cosgar ParagonX 6287	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:29:00 - [42] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: It's called a fair assumption. I've been using the MD since Chromosome and seen just about any excuse, most of which come from people that treat it like another hitscan weapon. It's very situational and in most cases, still gets overpowered by generalist weapons within its own niche. There's also the issue of DPS vs alpha damage weapons that many people don't understand either. If you start taking damage from a MD, don't sit there- get the hell out! Obviously it pisses you off, but that's what the MD is designed to do because it's a terror weapon, meant to terrorize you. That figures you're protecting your love well I guess you never ran into a MD yourself.. Either you get blown up or run and still get blown up and it doesn't terrorize me just a broken weapon like most weapons on this game. If you love the MD so much how about I put the barrel in your mouth and pull the trigger? That would make my day even better :D I used to run into wannabe massholes all the time. They run around with their EXO-5 like it's a damn shotgun, trying to jump over their own blast radius. I usually sit back and take them out with a few direct hits from +40m. It doesn't terrorize me because I use it and understand it- something you might want to try before coming on the forums whining. I have Prof 5 and guess what? I get more kills with a militia AR because it's situational, not a good 1v1 weapon, shoots delayed rounds, and has the worst ammo management, only rivaled by the plasma cannon. You are showing your inner "masshole" I guess I appreciate the explanation but tell me how you deal with them in CCC? I don't cry about this kind of stuff I'm just sharing my experiences with these weapons and why I believed they should nerfed I can do down the lists with the other weapons if you want me to. :) And if you want to bring a militia AR into this I believe I got 33 kill and 3 deaths with one.. they aren't good but they aren't bad.. MD = 242 DPS direct damage and 116 splash, AR = 425 DPS. Which weapon needs to be nerfed again?
Cosgar ParagonX 6287	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:31:00 - [43] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: Wow... That's just uncalled for. His tears are delicious. I wish I knew the masshole that got him worked up, I'd want to shake his hand.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1606	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:32:00 - [44] - Quote How about you try to lengthen your lifespan when you see one instead of looking to nerf its blast radius EVEN MORE. Therefore you would have learn a combat skill instead of the game bending to your fallacy, in which you learn nothing.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1307	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:32:00 - [45] - Quote I got killed by a nova knife once. They should be nerfed.
Thor McStrut Reckoners 244	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:35:00 - [46] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: You are showing your inner "masshole" I guess I appreciate the explanation but tell me how you deal with them in CCC? I don't cry about this kind of stuff I'm just sharing my experiences with these weapons and why I believed they should nerfed I can do down the lists with the other weapons if you want me to. :) And if you want to bring a militia AR into this I believe I got 33 kill and 3 deaths with one.. they aren't good but they aren't bad.. I'll tell you how I die the most in CCC as a masshole. Shotty in the back. As an armor tanker, I do my best to avoid CCC because if I get squeezed, I usually kill myself. The shield-tanking bunny hop doesn't save me. Face to face, I own shotty scouts with a MD. But I leave that engagement wounded, usually deep into armor. The great thing about facing other MD users, is the sound. You can hear where they are. And depending on the situation, you can out maneuver them. Generally, if I land the first shell, I win the duel.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 487	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:37:00 - [47] - Quote If its the rooftop variety of mass drivers then you will need to do a couple of things 1. Squad up 2. Learn to fly a dropship 3. Get on that roof and handle your business! 4. Profit
Cosgar ParagonX 6287	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:38:00 - [48] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: You are showing your inner "masshole" I guess I appreciate the explanation but tell me how you deal with them in CCC? I don't cry about this kind of stuff I'm just sharing my experiences with these weapons and why I believed they should nerfed I can do down the lists with the other weapons if you want me to. :) And if you want to bring a militia AR into this I believe I got 33 kill and 3 deaths with one.. they aren't good but they aren't bad.. I'll tell you how I die the most in CCC as a masshole. Shotty in the back. As an armor tanker, I do my best to avoid CCC because if I get squeezed, I usually kill myself. The shield-tanking bunny hop doesn't save me. Face to face, I own shotty scouts with a MD. But I leave that engagement wounded, usually deep into armor. The great thing about facing other MD users, is the sound. You can hear where they are. And depending on the situation, you can out maneuver them. Generally, if I land the first shell, I win the duel. Don't forget the big ass red spotlight that travels across the map since the 1.4 patch. People see me from a mile away and try to flank since they see my logi suit. (That's when I detonate the REs I laid near the ladder)
Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 3	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:39:00 - [49] - Quote I guess you don't read my other posts... Most weapons need to be fixed... Either way AR's have a fast RoF and more ammo per clip.. If you want to do it damage wise.. It takes an AR about 20 or so bullets if accurate enough to kill a militia and sometimes adv about 30-40 to kill a proto depending on what do you want it's an AR.. MD is like a grenade launcher which can kill in 1-3 shoots if accurate.. AR's range needs to be nerfed but guess what MD range damage is the same no matter what it seems to me.. Each gun has it's ups and downs.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1606	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:42:00 - [50] - Quote I think I've branded myself the patron saint of the AR. The AR doesn't need to be nerfed. Your combat tactics needs to be buffed. This is the only game I've heard people complain about the range of AR when they get killed from the same distance in other FPS titles but don't say jack ****. Interesting, indeed.

Thor McStrut Reckoners 244	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:44:00 - [51] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: I guess you don't read my other posts... Most weapons need to be fixed... Either way AR's have a fast RoF and more ammo per clip.. If you want to do it damage wise.. It takes an AR about 20 or so bullets if accurate enough to kill a militia and sometimes adv about 30-40 to kill a proto depending on what do you want it's an AR.. MD is like a grenade launcher which can kill in 1-3 shoots if accurate.. AR's range needs to be nerfed but guess what MD range damage is the same no matter what it seems to me.. Each gun has it's ups and downs. The good news is all ARs will have their range adjusted down. CCP is just waiting on the rest of the rifles to get released, as they will fill in the range gaps which would be left if they dropped it now.
Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 3	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:44:00 - [52] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Thor McStrut wrote: Wow... That's just uncalled for. His tears are delicious. I wish I knew the masshole that got him worked up, I'd want to shake his hand. You act like you got me upset or something while you claim you got tears I hope it's poison to get rid of ya :D
Thor McStrut Reckoners 244	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:46:00 - [53] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I think I've branded myself the patron saint of the AR. The AR doesn't need to be nerfed. Your combat tactics needs to be buffed. This is the only game I've heard people complain about the range of AR when they get killed from the same distance in other FPS titles but don't say jack ****. Interesting, indeed. You know, I've blocked your posts, but I just had to read what you posted in this thread. You didn't disappoint...
itsmellslikefish DIOS EX. Top Men. 396	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:47:00 - [54] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: I believe mass drivers should have their blast radius lowered, RoF lowered and not be able to refill near nanohives.. Might say That makes them suck blah blah blah but I'm sick of them spamming an objective. Especially when Logistics with a MD with nanohive is unbearable. Yes yes and yes! I want them to be needed so hard that massholes throw pebbles instead of using mds because of how useless they become.
Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 3	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:50:00 - [55] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Thor McStrut wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: You are showing your inner "masshole" I guess I appreciate the explanation but tell me how you deal with them in CCC? I don't cry about this kind of stuff I'm just sharing my experiences with these weapons and why I believed they should nerfed I can do down the lists with the other weapons if you want me to. :) And if you want to bring a militia AR into this I believe I got 33 kill and 3 deaths with one.. they aren't good but they aren't bad.. I'll tell you how I die the most in CCC as a masshole. Shotty in the back. As an armor tanker, I do my best to avoid CCC because if I get squeezed, I usually kill myself. The shield-tanking bunny hop doesn't save me. Face to face, I own shotty scouts with a MD. But I leave that engagement wounded, usually deep into armor. The great thing about facing other MD users, is the sound. You can hear where they are. And depending on the situation, you can out maneuver them. Generally, if I land the first shell, I win the duel. Don't forget the big ass red spotlight that travels across the map since the 1.4 patch. People see me from a mile away and try to flank since they see my logi suit. (That's when I detonate the REs I laid near the ladder) A wild masshole appears!
Cosgar ParagonX 6291	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:50:00 - [56] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Thor McStrut wrote: Wow... That's just uncalled for. His tears are delicious. I wish I knew the masshole that got him worked up, I'd want to shake his hand. You act like you got me upset or something while you claim you got tears I hope it's poison to get rid of ya :D I wasn't the one that made a "I just got my mass driven and instead of learning from my experience, I'd rather cry on the forums" topic.
Kira Takizawa Savage Arms INC 3	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:55:00 - [57] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Thor McStrut wrote: Wow... That's just uncalled for. His tears are delicious. I wish I knew the masshole that got him worked up, I'd want to shake his hand. You act like you got me upset or something while you claim you got tears I hope it's poison to get rid of ya :D I wasn't the one that made a "I just got my mass driven and instead of learning from my experience, I'd rather cry on the forums" topic. I've learned a lot actually but not from you masshole :D Thanks for nothing you are useless like your gun
Fiddler Galaine Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 35	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:57:00 - [58] - Quote If anything, MDs need a buff - highly situational, low RoF, low ammo, and easily beaten by any weapon than can make use of auto-aim.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 850	Posted - 2013.10.21 23:58:00 - [59] - Quote So you are complaining that the area-denial and breaching, area of effect weapon was doing its job? Very few weapons outdo the AR in their own niche, the MD is one, it doesn't need a nerf! Also you didn't get hit by an MD at 120m, the slug doesn't travel that far, bit goes about 90 tops, not to mention its only scoped for 40m, and takes nearly 3 secs to travel that distance! What suit were you using, was shield or armour tanked?
Cosgar ParagonX 6294	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:02:00 - [60] - Quote Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Kira Takizawa wrote: Cosgar wrote: Thor McStrut wrote: Wow... That's just uncalled for. His tears are delicious. I wish I knew the masshole that got him worked up, I'd want to shake his hand. You act like you got me upset or something while you claim you got tears I hope it's poison to get rid of ya :D I wasn't the one that made a "I just got my mass driven and instead of learning from my experience, I'd rather cry on the forums" topic. I've learned a lot actually but not from you masshole :D Thanks for nothing you are useless like your gun That "useless" gun killed you, lol.



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