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        |  Kira Takizawa
 Savage Arms INC
 
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      | Posted - 2013.10.21 17:54:00 -
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 I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other..
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        |  Takahiro Kashuken
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 1489
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 17:59:00 -
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 Vehicle pilots using teamwork to win so what does OP do? yup cries about it
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        |  GTA-V FTW
 Mannar Focused Warfare
 Gallente Federation
 
 422
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:02:00 -
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 Blame CCP and the broke game not the players.
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        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 4564
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:03:00 -
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 GTA-V FTW wrote:Blame CCP and the broke game not the players.   
 We get it already. CCP ****** up on the BPOs. No need to rub it in.
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        |  calisk galern
 BurgezzE.T.F
 Public Disorder.
 
 1112
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:05:00 -
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 team deploys would solve this.
 
 in your scenario they are effectively bringing a team that is of equal value to two squads, that require organized play to deal with.
 
 if you cold deploy as a team you could more likely bring people to the table capable of dealing with such tactics.
 
 
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        |  CharCharOdell
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 1193
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:06:00 -
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 Only if the number of av weapons in a game is limited, too.
 Noore than 1 forge, 1 swarm, and one guy with av grenades.
 
 Or you can just say "teamwork is op" and then we can laugh at you.
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 7089
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:07:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Blame CCP and the broke game not the players.   We get it already. CCP ****** up on the BPOs. No need to rub it in. Not sure how BPOs have anything to do with **** poor vehicle balance in one direction or the other.
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        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 4564
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:08:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Blame CCP and the broke game not the players.   We get it already. CCP ****** up on the BPOs. No need to rub it in. Not sure how BPOs have anything to do with **** poor vehicle balance in one direction or the other.  
 Just saying.
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        |  ER-Bullitt
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 480
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:12:00 -
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 CharCharOdell wrote:Only if the number of av weapons in a game is limited, too.Noore than 1 forge, 1 swarm, and one guy with av grenades.
 
 Or you can just say "teamwork is op" and then we can laugh at you.
 
 1 forge is all I need :P
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        |  Kira Takizawa
 Savage Arms INC
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:14:00 -
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 Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Vehicle pilots using teamwork to win so what does OP do? yup cries about it  
 Teamwork..? They don't give a damn about each other just want to get the most kills and tank the game I'm not crying. Just the fact that people want tanks to get a buff and for what..?
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        |  GTA-V FTW
 Mannar Focused Warfare
 Gallente Federation
 
 422
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:15:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:GTA-V FTW wrote:Blame CCP and the broke game not the players.   We get it already. CCP ****** up on the BPOs. No need to rub it in. Not sure how BPOs have anything to do with **** poor vehicle balance in one direction or the other.  Just saying. Saying what?
  
 BPO thread is this way -------------------------------------------------->
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        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Negative-Impact
 Cult of War
 
 590
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:15:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote: I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. 
 Why don't you try to use teamwork?
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        |  Kira Takizawa
 Savage Arms INC
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:19:00 -
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 calisk galern wrote:team deploys would solve this.
 in your scenario they are effectively bringing a team that is of equal value to two squads, that require organized play to deal with.
 
 if you cold deploy as a team you could more likely bring people to the table capable of dealing with such tactics.
 
 
 Tried this with other teams and most of the time either the armor hardeners save them or we still don't put too much dent into their armor.
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        |  Evolution-8
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 8
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:23:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote:I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. 
 
 Every vehicle in this current build of Dust 514 can be soloed with relative ease... Unfortunately
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        |  Takahiro Kashuken
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 1489
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:25:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Vehicle pilots using teamwork to win so what does OP do? yup cries about it  Teamwork..? They don't give a damn about each other just want to get the most kills and tank the game I'm not crying. Just the fact that people want tanks to get a buff and for what..? 
 Well currently we have BASIC mods with BASIC hulls against PROTO AV which is a big problem since they can deal PROTO levels of damage against BASIC hulls and we cant upgrade anything
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        |  calisk galern
 BurgezzE.T.F
 Public Disorder.
 
 1113
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:53:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote:calisk galern wrote:team deploys would solve this.
 in your scenario they are effectively bringing a team that is of equal value to two squads, that require organized play to deal with.
 
 if you cold deploy as a team you could more likely bring people to the table capable of dealing with such tactics.
 
 
  Tried this with other teams and most of the time either the armor hardeners save them or we still don't put too much dent into their armor. 
 then they are just better then you.
 
 I haven't seen a tank or vehicle yet that can't be killed by organized play.
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        |  Kira Takizawa
 Savage Arms INC
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:56:00 -
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 Evolution-8 wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. Every vehicle in this current build of Dust 514 can be soloed with relative ease... Unfortunately  
 If someone can solo 3 tanks at once let me know so I can be trained by them and I'm not talking about the militia tanks.. I'm talking about an EHP 7,000-9,000 Madrugars that have hardeners and armor reps
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        |  calisk galern
 BurgezzE.T.F
 Public Disorder.
 
 1113
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 18:58:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote:Evolution-8 wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. Every vehicle in this current build of Dust 514 can be soloed with relative ease... Unfortunately  If someone can solo 3 tanks at once let me know so I can be trained by them and I'm not talking about the militia tanks.. I'm talking about an EHP 7,000-9,000 Madrugars that have hardeners and armor reps 
 best I can usually do is two....then i run out of ammo.
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        |  Evolution-8
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 9
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:06:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote:Evolution-8 wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. Every vehicle in this current build of Dust 514 can be soloed with relative ease... Unfortunately  If someone can solo 3 tanks at once let me know so I can be trained by them and I'm not talking about the militia tanks.. I'm talking about an EHP 7,000-9,000 Madrugars that have hardeners and armor reps 
 
 Ok.
 
 I charge 55mil per lesson.
 But I do have advanced training packages with a minimum of 7 lessons that will bring the cost down to 45mil per lesson. I require at least a 85% of the full amount upon start of the first lesson, the 15% can be payed off during the duration of the advanced training package
 
 
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        |  Kira Takizawa
 Savage Arms INC
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:09:00 -
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 Evolution-8 wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:Evolution-8 wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. Every vehicle in this current build of Dust 514 can be soloed with relative ease... Unfortunately  If someone can solo 3 tanks at once let me know so I can be trained by them and I'm not talking about the militia tanks.. I'm talking about an EHP 7,000-9,000 Madrugars that have hardeners and armor reps Ok.I charge 55mil per lesson. But I do have advanced training packages with a minimum of 7 lessons that will bring the cost down to 45mil per lesson. I require at least a 85% of the full amount upon start of the first lesson, the 15% can be payed off during the duration of the advanced training package
 XD You just proto av the person with Nano's near by or is it an actual tactic you would be willing to teach?
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1669
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:11:00 -
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 calisk galern wrote:team deploys would solve this.
 in your scenario they are effectively bringing a team that is of equal value to two squads, that require organized play to deal with.
 
 if you cold deploy as a team you could more likely bring people to the table capable of dealing with such tactics.
 
 
 
 I agree, I think that tanks should be limited outside of team deploy scenarios.
 
 It also creates a scenario where tankers could be bankrolled. If they are rolling tanks in team deploy then it's only fair that at the very least the team pitches in to support him.
 
 I also believe there should be game modes that prohibit high end gear. Call it high sec battles.
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        |  Evolution-8
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 9
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:15:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote:Evolution-8 wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:Evolution-8 wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. Every vehicle in this current build of Dust 514 can be soloed with relative ease... Unfortunately  If someone can solo 3 tanks at once let me know so I can be trained by them and I'm not talking about the militia tanks.. I'm talking about an EHP 7,000-9,000 Madrugars that have hardeners and armor reps Ok.I charge 55mil per lesson. But I do have advanced training packages with a minimum of 7 lessons that will bring the cost down to 45mil per lesson. I require at least a 85% of the full amount upon start of the first lesson, the 15% can be payed off during the duration of the advanced training package
 XD You just proto av the person with Nano's near by or is it an actual tactic you would be willing to teach? 
 My tactics are extremely effective and has won my team several PC battles on my main. And no, its not noob tactics such as proto AV with nanos since that technique has severe weaknesses.
 
 
 
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        |  Kira Takizawa
 Savage Arms INC
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:17:00 -
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 Thor Odinson42 wrote:calisk galern wrote:team deploys would solve this.
 in your scenario they are effectively bringing a team that is of equal value to two squads, that require organized play to deal with.
 
 if you cold deploy as a team you could more likely bring people to the table capable of dealing with such tactics.
 
 
 I agree, I think that tanks should be limited outside of team deploy scenarios. It also creates a scenario where tankers could be bankrolled. If they are rolling tanks in team deploy then it's only fair that at the very least the team pitches in to support him. I also believe there should be game modes that prohibit high end gear. Call it high sec battles. I love you lol I was thinking there should be game modes like that because it's going to be hard for new people to be going against high end gear.
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 2085
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:19:00 -
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 A solo only game mode would help with this problem a lot.......
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        |  Mossellia Delt
 Militaires Sans Jeux
 
 503
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:20:00 -
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 pull in the best AV gear, a rail tank!
 
 Soma - std compressed rail
 
 put on as many passive and active heat sinks as possible
 
 sit in the redline on a hill
 
 You now owe me 20 mil isk for this lesson
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        |  Kira Takizawa
 Savage Arms INC
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:23:00 -
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 It does have sever weaknesses but at the same time it can be very effective but I might take you up on that offer
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        |  Idye Lotz
 xCosmic Voidx
 Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
 
 126
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:24:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote:I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. 
 I suck at tanking but as someone that does it from time to time you don't need teamwork to kill a tank. Lol av nades and nano hive will work.
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        |  Meeko Fent
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1238
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:28:00 -
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 Well, rich guys will be rich guys.
 
 Us poor folks will still be complaining we go broke too quick with vehicles, but they will just go IDC I guess.
 
 Cost/Survivability=Usability.
 
 Rich people don't care for Usability, cause they want something to blow money on and vehicles are as good as anything to blow money on.
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        |  Paran Tadec
 Ancient Exiles
 
 1459
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:31:00 -
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 Kira Takizawa wrote:I understand people want to win games and whatnot but 3 tanks and a full team of protos is too much don't ya think? I really believe they need to limit the amount of tanks to one per team. I'm sick of facing tanks that are unkillable without teamwork but then there are 3 of them right behind each other.. 
 Except tanks are easy to kill.
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        |  Kira Takizawa
 Savage Arms INC
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.21 19:33:00 -
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 Mossellia Delt wrote:pull in the best AV gear, a rail tank!
 Soma - std compressed rail
 
 put on as many passive and active heat sinks as possible
 
 sit in the redline on a hill
 
 You now owe me 20 mil isk for this lesson
 Didn't ask for a lesson so I got a tip for free thanks :D
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