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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Delta 749 wrote:

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

Isnt it up to the corps if they want to play PC?

Its alright blaming the blue donut but there is PFC, its not the blue donuts fault no one wants to fight, its the corps fault that they choose not to fight

Eh, I get the idea behind PFC but really in the long term it does more damage to the health of PC and encourages the idea of a blue donut by keeping combat contained in a nice neat package where it doesnt threaten some peoples farmville operations

While saying its there to promote conflict and fighting sounds good on paper it funnels potential random attacks into the "safe zone" if you will undermining the idea that its supposed to be a war zone and leading the uninitiated into thinking that if they want to get a start in PC it has to be there rather than assaulting wherever they damn well please and learning things the hard way

Hell experience is the best teacher right but presenting an experience that belies what PC really is just makes complacent weaker opponents
Unless of course thats what the people that established it want but its not like people would lie cheat and steal to protect their epeen and egos right /sarcasm

PFC does create a nice little space where noob corps can play tag with each other with no severe consequences problem is how many actually use the district they have to attack each other?

If PFC isnt being used im all for burning it down

Problem you have then is that noob corps have to look to try and fight other more estabilshed corps in MH, sure they can do it but sometimes the corp being attacked will hire ringers to do the fighting and may just stomp on the noobs

For new corps coming into PC it could easily cost 100mil just to take one district and frankly how many are prepared to put up and fight and give it ago?

Many corps choose not to play PC because its expenisve, lag reasons, protobears and more fun stomping on noobs in pubs

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ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 313	Posted - 2013.10.21 09:54:00 - [1] - Quote Want in pc to make a differance and why? We just want to see more corps thrive in pc a steady flow of competition/income/ more war. with one alliance or corp owning most if not all land makes the pc world just as dead as pub matches. i think it would be nice to see other corps like Ultramarines Stand alone clones russian troops of chaos restless spirits osg pro subdreddit and many more corps in faction warfare join planetary conquest. Public matches and faction warfare doesnt help you get better in this game especially when every game is redline fest. join the festives im sure there are alot of districts out there either for sale to get your feet wet and or to work on your corps teamwork. alot of corps out there have skilled players who will never get shine because they arent noticed in planetary conquest. if your wanting to join in and need help learning the ropes theres always other corps willing to help out the community foreal and not using it as a way to sucker you into fighting their wars. we just want to see more corps in there learning and making this game more playable for what time this game has left.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 787	Posted - 2013.10.21 09:58:00 - [2] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: Want in pc to make a differance and why? We just want to see more corps thrive in pc a steady flow of competition/income/ more war. with one alliance or corp owning most if not all land makes the pc world just as dead as pub matches. i think it would be nice to see other corps like Ultramarines Stand alone clones russian troops of chaos restless spirits osg pro subdreddit and many more corps in faction warfare join planetary conquest. Public matches and faction warfare doesnt help you get better in this game especially when every game is redline fest. join the festives im sure there are alot of districts out there either for sale to get your feet wet and or to work on your corps teamwork. alot of corps out there have skilled players who will never get shine because they arent noticed in planetary conquest. if your wanting to join in and need help learning the ropes theres always other corps willing to help out the community foreal and not using it as a way to sucker you into fighting their wars. we just want to see more corps in there learning and making this game more playable for what time this game has left. No worries! papa's got a brand new bag of toys!
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 47	Posted - 2013.10.21 11:01:00 - [3] - Quote We are focused on growing our ranks in both quantity and quality at the moment; we're just a few choice additions away from being ready to dip our toes in PC waters. Hope to see you on the battlefield soon (not Gäó, hopefully)!
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2194	Posted - 2013.10.21 11:11:00 - [4] - Quote So what, the blue donut got boring? I kid I kid, sort of
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1486	Posted - 2013.10.21 11:24:00 - [5] - Quote Isnt it up to the corps if they want to play PC? Its alright blaming the blue donut but there is PFC, its not the blue donuts fault no one wants to fight, its the corps fault that they choose not to fight
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1249	Posted - 2013.10.21 12:34:00 - [6] - Quote The problem is PC just isn't all that fun, and is still prone to stunning levels of framerate lag. Subdreddit has a district on PFC which, for some reason, most of us tend to not have serious lag issues on. When RND announced they were leaving PC we dropped a clone pack on a district they held which we were the original owners of, on Ennur. It played for us like this: http://i.imgur.com/Oa80ivv.jpg RND didn't have any problems though. Subdreddit was originally formed with the intent of taking and defending planets in nullsec, which made lowsec PC our intermediate goal. But that game mode failed to deliver on the strategic level that was envisioned (PC 2.0 seems to address this) and has serious performance issues. Until, at the very minimum, the performance issues are resolved Subdreddit will not be getting any more involved in PC than holding our district on PFC. Our members don't enjoy it as it stands, and I can't exactly make them log in to waste their evening on something they don't enjoy when they could just go play some other game instead.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2195	Posted - 2013.10.21 12:43:00 - [7] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Isnt it up to the corps if they want to play PC? Its alright blaming the blue donut but there is PFC, its not the blue donuts fault no one wants to fight, its the corps fault that they choose not to fight Eh, I get the idea behind PFC but really in the long term it does more damage to the health of PC and encourages the idea of a blue donut by keeping combat contained in a nice neat package where it doesnt threaten some peoples farmville operations While saying its there to promote conflict and fighting sounds good on paper it funnels potential random attacks into the "safe zone" if you will undermining the idea that its supposed to be a war zone and leading the uninitiated into thinking that if they want to get a start in PC it has to be there rather than assaulting wherever they damn well please and learning things the hard way Hell experience is the best teacher right but presenting an experience that belies what PC really is just makes complacent weaker opponents Unless of course thats what the people that established it want but its not like people would lie cheat and steal to protect their epeen and egos right /sarcasm
Chit Hoppened Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendors 66	Posted - 2013.10.21 13:19:00 - [8] - Quote We in VRRV would like to get in. Our whole plan from the get go was to get a district and be the cornerstone of the Player Market. But with our Corp. being only a handful of people, it'd be a ridiculous task to get/defend a district and keep up with your Player Market needs.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1172	Posted - 2013.10.21 13:41:00 - [9] - Quote Personally I think the reintroduction of the old corp battle system would accomodate smaller corps anf allow for good practice for pc
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1486	Posted - 2013.10.21 14:25:00 - [10] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Isnt it up to the corps if they want to play PC? Its alright blaming the blue donut but there is PFC, its not the blue donuts fault no one wants to fight, its the corps fault that they choose not to fight Eh, I get the idea behind PFC but really in the long term it does more damage to the health of PC and encourages the idea of a blue donut by keeping combat contained in a nice neat package where it doesnt threaten some peoples farmville operations While saying its there to promote conflict and fighting sounds good on paper it funnels potential random attacks into the "safe zone" if you will undermining the idea that its supposed to be a war zone and leading the uninitiated into thinking that if they want to get a start in PC it has to be there rather than assaulting wherever they damn well please and learning things the hard way Hell experience is the best teacher right but presenting an experience that belies what PC really is just makes complacent weaker opponents Unless of course thats what the people that established it want but its not like people would lie cheat and steal to protect their epeen and egos right /sarcasm PFC does create a nice little space where noob corps can play tag with each other with no severe consequences problem is how many actually use the district they have to attack each other? If PFC isnt being used im all for burning it down Problem you have then is that noob corps have to look to try and fight other more estabilshed corps in MH, sure they can do it but sometimes the corp being attacked will hire ringers to do the fighting and may just stomp on the noobs For new corps coming into PC it could easily cost 100mil just to take one district and frankly how many are prepared to put up and fight and give it ago? Many corps choose not to play PC because its expenisve, lag reasons, protobears and more fun stomping on noobs in pubs

Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 787	Posted - 2013.10.21 14:32:00 - [11] - Quote We get attacked a lot and we defend our land. All the districts we have were won through countless battles. If you want a place in pc you just have to earn it, simple as that.
Heimdallr69 Imperfect Bastards 1031	Posted - 2013.10.21 14:52:00 - [12] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: Want in pc to make a differance and why? We just want to see more corps thrive in pc a steady flow of competition/income/ more war. with one alliance or corp owning most if not all land makes the pc world just as dead as pub matches. i think it would be nice to see other corps like Ultramarines Stand alone clones russian troops of chaos restless spirits osg pro subdreddit and many more corps in faction warfare join planetary conquest. Public matches and faction warfare doesnt help you get better in this game especially when every game is redline fest. join the festives im sure there are alot of districts out there either for sale to get your feet wet and or to work on your corps teamwork. alot of corps out there have skilled players who will never get shine because they arent noticed in planetary conquest. if your wanting to join in and need help learning the ropes theres always other corps willing to help out the community foreal and not using it as a way to sucker you into fighting their wars. we just want to see more corps in there learning and making this game more playable for what time this game has left. In time we will be there
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 161	Posted - 2013.10.21 15:26:00 - [13] - Quote I think I'll have to eventually if I want my corp to be industrial.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 314	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:30:00 - [14] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Isnt it up to the corps if they want to play PC? Its alright blaming the blue donut but there is PFC, its not the blue donuts fault no one wants to fight, its the corps fault that they choose not to fight yea its their choice but also if we don't offer a chance to shine most ppl quit because they cant seem to either get a foot hold in pc or the bigger corps keep mobbing them pfc is a good idea but rarely gets attacked so if you put them in open territory where they are more then likely to get attacked it will give them more experience
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 314	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:32:00 - [15] - Quote Chit Hoppened wrote: We in VRRV would like to get in. Our whole plan from the get go was to get a district and be the cornerstone of the Player Market. But with our Corp. being only a handful of people, it'd be a ridiculous task to get/defend a district and keep up with your Player Market needs. field 16 to defend and ill sell you a district for your corp to get on.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 314	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:34:00 - [16] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Personally I think the reintroduction of the old corp battle system would accomodate smaller corps anf allow for good practice for pc this I agree with 100% but will ccp do this? if so how long will it take them to do this is the question? most corps wont be around as much anymore due to them leaving for ps4 and many other games. but I do agree with you
Cosgar ParagonX 6271	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:36:00 - [17] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: So what, the blue donut got boring? I kid I kid, sort of A lot of corps would rather eat a blue waffle than participate in PC in its current format.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 314	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:37:00 - [18] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Isnt it up to the corps if they want to play PC? Its alright blaming the blue donut but there is PFC, its not the blue donuts fault no one wants to fight, its the corps fault that they choose not to fight Eh, I get the idea behind PFC but really in the long term it does more damage to the health of PC and encourages the idea of a blue donut by keeping combat contained in a nice neat package where it doesnt threaten some peoples farmville operations While saying its there to promote conflict and fighting sounds good on paper it funnels potential random attacks into the "safe zone" if you will undermining the idea that its supposed to be a war zone and leading the uninitiated into thinking that if they want to get a start in PC it has to be there rather than assaulting wherever they damn well please and learning things the hard way Hell experience is the best teacher right but presenting an experience that belies what PC really is just makes complacent weaker opponents Unless of course thats what the people that established it want but its not like people would lie cheat and steal to protect their epeen and egos right /sarcasm PFC does create a nice little space where noob corps can play tag with each other with no severe consequences problem is how many actually use the district they have to attack each other? If PFC isnt being used im all for burning it down Problem you have then is that noob corps have to look to try and fight other more estabilshed corps in MH, sure they can do it but sometimes the corp being attacked will hire ringers to do the fighting and may just stomp on the noobs For new corps coming into PC it could easily cost 100mil just to take one district and frankly how many are prepared to put up and fight and give it ago? Many corps choose not to play PC because its expenisve, lag reasons, protobears and more fun stomping on noobs in pubs pfc is being used. but not for pc... most corps in pfc are farming like a mofo. im up for lighting the match on it as well. this will make it so that corps outside in the real pc world not only get the experience they need to survive the better corps but are under attack enough to remember maps and build strats to keep districts wouldn't you agree?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 903	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:39:00 - [19] - Quote PC is broken what small corps need is the old corp battles.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 315	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:39:00 - [20] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: So what, the blue donut got boring? I kid I kid, sort of A lot of corps would rather eat a blue waffle than participate in PC in its current format. not true. you cant speak for a lot of corps when a lot of corps never were allowed into pc

Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 594	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:40:00 - [21] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: PC is broken what small corps need is the old corp battles. So people can get stomped by elites? because thats what generally happens in smaller numbers
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 315	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:41:00 - [22] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: We get attacked a lot and we defend our land. All the districts we have were won through countless battles. If you want a place in pc you just have to earn it, simple as that. you know this would be more valid if you didn't have only one of the best alliances in the game helping you in pc. these guys have nobody but their 16 players which makes a difference your experienced 16 to their fresh new guys.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 474	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:44:00 - [23] - Quote If there are going to be more corps then there needs to be tiered battle sizes to accommodate the many smaller corps that currently exist within the game but do not have the player count for sustained 16v16 matches. If CCP would just introduce additional Districts that supported 8v8 matches on 3-point maps with reduced incentives, then smaller organizations could become active in the title's premiere mode. Not only would it give such groups more experience, stiffer competition and a chance to enter the Meta game....it would also bolster their appeal to newer players and help with their recruitment. With the current state of the player base, there has to be less exclusivity so there is reasons for players who are not in larger corporations and alliances to log on more often. There needs to be more 'grass roots' capability for organizations to grow and prosper within the Dust side of New Eden. It is the only way small corps can become bigger corps and offer the larger groups a challenge. Otherwise it will continue to be a monopoly of the game's largest alliances and PC will continue to fester and stagnate. Not even the proposed changes announced at EVE Vegas will help PC grow player-wise. In fact, it will just be even more exclusive and over time...more boring for those playing it. And those of us not playing it will just twiddle our thumbs in Pub Matches :Lamesauce:
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 315	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:47:00 - [24] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: PC is broken what small corps need is the old corp battles. So people can get stomped by elites? because thats what generally happens in smaller numbers this mentality is why ppl wont do it. a scared mindset. we came into pc with no skill got our as$es beat several times. and still kept trying. now we have beaten most corps and had battles with AE & nyan san Teamplayers Redstar and many more good corps out there and beaten them and they beaten us. point is that you will only get better playing your grandfather at chess instead of stomping your little brother out all the time and not learning anything. I respect all corps in the game of pc even if they have ego issues its a competitive game and surviving it means something more then a que synce in fw matches. and id like to see more corps step their $h!t up is all.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 595	Posted - 2013.10.21 21:53:00 - [25] - Quote ANON Illuminati wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: PC is broken what small corps need is the old corp battles. So people can get stomped by elites? because thats what generally happens in smaller numbers this mentality is why ppl wont do it. a scared mindset. we came into pc with no skill got our as$es beat several times. and still kept trying. now we have beaten most corps and had battles with AE & nyan san Teamplayers Redstar and many more good corps out there and beaten them and they beaten us. point is that you will only get better playing your grandfather at chess instead of stomping your little brother out all the time and not learning anything. I respect all corps in the game of pc even if they have ego issues its a competitive game and surviving it means something more then a que synce in fw matches. and id like to see more corps step their $h!t up is all. Then what is stopping other corps from doing the same? hell you don't always win on your first attempt, corps just need to nut up and get into PC not say all the other corps are to big and bad so i should not even try.
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 315	Posted - 2013.10.21 22:02:00 - [26] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: ANON Illuminati wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: PC is broken what small corps need is the old corp battles. So people can get stomped by elites? because thats what generally happens in smaller numbers this mentality is why ppl wont do it. a scared mindset. we came into pc with no skill got our as$es beat several times. and still kept trying. now we have beaten most corps and had battles with AE & nyan san Teamplayers Redstar and many more good corps out there and beaten them and they beaten us. point is that you will only get better playing your grandfather at chess instead of stomping your little brother out all the time and not learning anything. I respect all corps in the game of pc even if they have ego issues its a competitive game and surviving it means something more then a que synce in fw matches. and id like to see more corps step their $h!t up is all. Then what is stopping other corps from doing the same? hell you don't always win on your first attempt, corps just need to nut up and get into PC not say all the other corps are to big and bad so i should not even try. that's all im saying too. but helping as far as selling them districts to get in to make some money and a way to have more then 120 clones. because its 90 mill to attack 3 times may be a lot for corps who aren't in pc making isk.. still its hard for them and that's why this thread was made
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 953	Posted - 2013.10.21 22:06:00 - [27] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: So what, the blue donut got boring? I kid I kid, sort of A lot of corps would rather eat a blue waffle than participate in PC in its current format. I agree, PC is a failure of a joke and should be scrapped and rebuilt from the ground up in a fashion that isn't just a passive ISK faucet.


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