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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
884
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:28:00 -
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PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks? |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2273
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:31:00 -
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Where the heck else am I suppose to run expensive stuff? I don't play PC. |
Void Echo
Blades of Dust
1890
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:32:00 -
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if the cost to deploy them were to be reduced, there wouldn't be a problem, they are not worth how much it takes to deploy them |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
The Kaos Legion
164
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:32:00 -
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because the majority of the community doesn't play PC.
i haven't been in a single PC battle(though i would like to try it one day) and i run my proto scout in skirmish
all depends on the preference really. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University
Ivy League
1233
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:34:00 -
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Because people forget how much they paid for it and what they get paid.
Run your cheap **** in pubs, and your expensive like once every 5-6 matches.
Just try to avoid dying and run militia free suits if you do die. |
Miokai Zahou
Film Actors Guilds
49
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:35:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks?
Let me counter this then, why shouldn't they run proto gear in PUB matches? Just because you say so? What if they are bored and want to burn the tons of ISK they have or just want to have a laugh at the expense of others? eam practising maybe?
I run my proto gear because I can and will keep doing so as I make enough isk (for now anyway), why you ask? Because I invested my time and SP into the gear and weapons to proto standards. |
IMMORTAL WAR HERO
BAD SANTA'S SCHOOL 4 SCOUNDRELS
29
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:37:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks?
majority of tank users dont have dropsuits and spec advanced vehicles..... duh its all they have so ofcourse they r gonna spam tanks |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
730
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:37:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks?
people are senseless. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2696
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:37:00 -
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I've never seen a single vehicle in PC that lasted more than 30 seconds and actually contributed to the battle. In PC every person on the field has AV that can drop any vehicle anywhere on the map in a few seconds.
This doesn't even take into account the fact that in PC vehicles cause so much lag, pop in, and frame rate stutter that they're usually unusable anyway. |
Chris F2112
High-Damage
Public Disorder.
477
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:37:00 -
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Because why not? I have enough ISK to run proto all that I want and not run out. Why shouldn't I?
Until we get something more expensive to use our ISK on there is no point in using anything but the best stuff because our ISK is practically unlimited by current marketplace standards, at least for dropsuits. |
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
BAD SANTA'S SCHOOL 4 SCOUNDRELS
29
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:38:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks?
to get the derp kills and a smile on their face |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
730
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:38:00 -
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Miokai Zahou wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks? Let me counter this then, why shouldn't they run proto gear in PUB matches? Just because you say so? What if they are bored and want to burn the tons of ISK they have or just want to have a laugh at the expense of others? eam practising maybe? I run my proto gear because I can and will keep doing so as I make enough isk (for now anyway), why you ask? Because I invested my time and SP into the gear and weapons to proto standards.
because it's fiscally irresponsible. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
850
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:40:00 -
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I'm a new player, I seen videos of Dust, I like the idea of running tanks or dropships. Oh I lose a few fair enough I havn't got much SP, couple million SP later on, my tank or DS fits are getting expensive, but that makes sense I guess since I'm running alot of high level mods ect. You telling me I'm not allowed to play the game because of my choice of role?
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
BAD SANTA'S SCHOOL 4 SCOUNDRELS
29
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:43:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks?
there are far less orbitals in ambush and to my experience tanks r better suited in ambush as i fit my tanks anti infantry as in i can take at least 10 swarms.... armor tanks **** me off tho so i either bring in a madruger or creodron breach to kill them..... i stop tanking 4 this past week because of mrgatic beowolf ramming my gunnlogis with his madruger andflipping it over blowing it and me up |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
36
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:43:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks?
what the fk am i suppose to run, Tanks don't come cheap... |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
344
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:44:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Why do folks insist on running expensive tanks and dropships in PUBS??
Because that is what they are skilled for and what they enjoy doing. This is a game after all isn't it? We are supposed to be enjoying ourselves arn't we? |
Meeko Fent
DUST University
Ivy League
1233
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:49:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks? what the fk am i suppose to run, Tanks don't come cheap...
Militia Tanks. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2697
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:50:00 -
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low genius wrote:Miokai Zahou wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks? Let me counter this then, why shouldn't they run proto gear in PUB matches? Just because you say so? What if they are bored and want to burn the tons of ISK they have or just want to have a laugh at the expense of others? eam practising maybe? I run my proto gear because I can and will keep doing so as I make enough isk (for now anyway), why you ask? Because I invested my time and SP into the gear and weapons to proto standards. because it's fiscally irresponsible.
If you aren't spending all the ISK you make on gear to play the game with, then what's the point of earning it in the first place? Having a stockpile of ISK sitting on your character serves no purpose. |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
36
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:50:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Why do folks insist on running expensive tanks and dropships in PUBS?? Because that is what they are skilled for and what they enjoy doing. This is a game after all isn't it? We are supposed to be enjoying ourselves arn't we?
niggaa we broke cuz dis bull$#!+ |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
Public Disorder.
442
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:52:00 -
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They want to win, so they insist on abusing Ambush's design, which was never meant for these vehicles. It's one of the main reasons why Ambush has become degenerate. |
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
BAD SANTA'S SCHOOL 4 SCOUNDRELS
29
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:52:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks? what the fk am i suppose to run, Tanks don't come cheap...
use bpos geg them while u can |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1268
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:53:00 -
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Even the non-militia HAVs cost more then pub-payouts... Hell even a militia Sica with all module slots filled will cost more... & will die instantly and much more often making things worse.
Your argument is senseless, and stupid. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3408
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:54:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks?
SO you are saying, only use tanks in PC...... that's boring as hell. I have no intention to ever run PC for the long haul, all id want to do is farm ISK from it for a couple of days then give it away.
Why does everyone insist PC is the be all end all of this game.
If I could run a 50k isk tank I would wouldn't I? But I can't. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
448
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Posted - 2013.10.21 02:02:00 -
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I'm tired of this argument! so I'm not gonna reason with you!
tanks are in ambush HTFU.
people drop tanks in pubs HTFU.
tanks exist HTFU.
do you ask why the logi drops his suit in matches? no, because you know the answer. it's what he does he knows no other trade nor does he want one. he is a logi so he uses logi suits, tankers tank, so they drive tanks, DS pilots fly so they bring dropships.
IF THEY WERE IN IT FOR THE MONEY THEY"D ALL BE OP CAL LOGIS WITH DUVOLLES. SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO BE PILOTS LEAVE THEM ALONE
YES I KNOW THE CAPS LOCK IS ON AND IT FEELS GOOD.
FREEDOM, 'MURICA, YEA. |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
37
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Posted - 2013.10.21 02:10:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:PC payout is 2 million isk so it makes sense to run vehicles there.
PUBS payout is 200, 000 isk versus a 2 miilion ISK tan/dropship so its pointless to run them in pubs.
Same for running proto suits/weapons in pubs?
I.e. a tanker runs tanks in ambush and gets plenty of kills then the infantry get tired of this and kill the tank.
And the tanker instead of staying in PC or at least skirmish instead gets upset at lost tanks? what the fk am i suppose to run, Tanks don't come cheap... Militia Tanks.
milita tanks are a waste of isk especially since a proto FG can 2 hit us (140k is tank) and AV are fking deadly and we can be massdriverd to death... |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
37
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Posted - 2013.10.21 02:11:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:They want to win, so they insist on abusing Ambush's design, which was never meant for these vehicles. It's one of the main reasons why Ambush has become degenerate.
well, if you want tanks out of ambush, than Av got to be removed from skirmish and domination. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
84
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Posted - 2013.10.21 02:15:00 -
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Because anything cheap tank wise is paper and dies instantly |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation
The Ascendancy
109
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Posted - 2013.10.21 02:20:00 -
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Probably one of the following reasons:
- Don't play PC so might as well.
- Have the money to waste.
- Don't care if they waste money or not.
- To **** people off so the QQPROTOSTOMPQQ continues
- They suck and can't do well otherwise. ;p
Plus to stray away from the dropships/tanks I believe some people run proto suits because they can't do too well with STD/ADV ie some scouts. |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2013.10.21 02:44:00 -
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I don't play pc, but I always figured that a tank in pc doesn't stand much of a chance because they are up against an organized team. The disorganized fashion of pub means they have more survivability... There maybe av ppl in a pub, but they tend to not communicate and go solo, although, there is a chance a preformed squad may get annoyed and go after them. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
2278
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Posted - 2013.10.21 03:27:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:I've never seen a single vehicle in PC that lasted more than 30 seconds and actually contributed to the battle. In PC every person on the field has AV that can drop any vehicle anywhere on the map in a few seconds.
This doesn't even take into account the fact that in PC vehicles cause so much lag, pop in, and frame rate stutter that they're usually unusable anyway.
The only PC match I was ever in, there was 2 dropships and an HAV on our side and at least 1 drop ship on the enemy side.
The Lag... The horror! |
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