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Spectral Clone The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 261	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:07:00 - [1] - Quote Respec is inevitable! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1408205#post1408205
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4025	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:17:00 - [2] - Quote This comes from the same source that told us that BPOs were being removed from inventories.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 679	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:18:00 - [3] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This comes from the same source that told us that BPOs were being removed from inventories. If that is true they just lost an Elite pack sale...
Spectral Clone The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 261	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:19:00 - [4] - Quote [tinfoil hat] Im predicting that 1.8 (if all racial dropsuits are released) will be the point at which they give us a free respec or implement some way to buy respecs. [/tinfoil hat]
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 339	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:21:00 - [5] - Quote They are not removing BPO's from inventory, they are removing their availability, like from the market and packs If you have BPO's they are safe.
Chad Michael Murray The Phoenix Federation The Ascendancy 107	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:31:00 - [6] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: [tinfoil hat] Im predicting that 1.8 (if all racial dropsuits are released) will be the point at which they give us a free respec or implement some way to buy respecs. [/tinfoil hat] -also fetches his tinfoil hat- Here's hoping.
CrotchGrab 360 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 349	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:32:00 - [7] - Quote I would love a full respec to regain a few mil SP and I don't even have 10m SP that's how badly I messed up lol.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4026	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:33:00 - [8] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This comes from the same source that told us that BPOs were being removed from inventories. If that is true they just lost an Elite pack sale... It's not true. That's the point.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1859	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:36:00 - [9] - Quote Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 12	Posted - 2013.10.20 11:44:00 - [10] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. Agree with 100proc.

ReGnYuM MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1137	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:05:00 - [11] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. If they reset I want all my arrum back
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1861	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:08:00 - [12] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. If they reset I want all my arrum back Yeah, i actually finished playing GTA 5 the other day, and i want my money back... ohh.. wait... it doesn't works that way. Hey Rockstar !! I finish you game !! i demand a refund !!!
The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1268	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:12:00 - [13] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. I would love a reset too. It would allow me to make a clean break with this game and never look back.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 13	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:18:00 - [14] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. I would love a reset too. It would allow me to make a clean break with this game and never look back. I think he meant start developing the game from scratch, if playing i dont care i already start four times.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1861	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:35:00 - [15] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. I would love a reset too. It would allow me to make a clean break with this game and never look back. I think he meant start developing the game from scratch, if playing i dont care i already start four times. Not necessary starting from zero... that is a bit extreme, i meant more in the lines of a "fresh start". Is nearly impossible to balance a game when some people have 30 mil SP and others not even 1 mil, some people have 500,000,000 ISK, when others can't get pass 100,000 isk. The full thing is a bit **** up at the moment.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 13	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:49:00 - [16] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. I would love a reset too. It would allow me to make a clean break with this game and never look back. I think he meant start developing the game from scratch, if playing i dont care i already start four times. Not necessary starting from zero... that is a bit extreme, i meant more in the lines of a "fresh start". Is nearly impossible to balance a game when some people have 30 mil SP and others not even 1 mil, some people have 500,000,000 ISK, when others can't get pass 100,000 isk. The full thing is a bit **** up at the moment. Boyo bit is not proper word here, game core mechanics are basicaly f*cuked up, amount of glitches, technical difficulties, poorly optimilized and unbalanced thingies are on critical level and they know that. I bet with you they dont even know with what they should start now.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 145	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:54:00 - [17] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. If they reset I want all my arrum back You spent money on a game in BETA HTFU no refunds
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4030	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:56:00 - [18] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. If they reset I want all my arrum back You spent money on a game in BETA HTFU no refunds It's full release now.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 13	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:57:00 - [19] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. If they reset I want all my arrum back You spent money on a game in BETA HTFU no refunds I remeber how they told me same, when i was for respec (what i never received) before XD actually i feel same now.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7061	Posted - 2013.10.20 12:59:00 - [20] - Quote I just want to know if that respec is set for 1.7 or not. If so, called it

Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1862	Posted - 2013.10.20 13:16:00 - [21] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. If they reset I want all my arrum back You spent money on a game in BETA HTFU no refunds It's full release now. It isn't ... anyone that have been following Dust 514 knows that, the game at the moment is more in the category of a "Demo" of things to come.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 146	Posted - 2013.10.20 13:20:00 - [22] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. If they reset I want all my arrum back You spent money on a game in BETA HTFU no refunds It's full release now. No it isn't
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1705	Posted - 2013.10.20 13:28:00 - [23] - Quote Hey, CCP calls it a full release people can act on the assumption it is a full release. We don't need a bunch of whiny pedantic asses arguing about whether it is really a real full release and so on.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 14	Posted - 2013.10.20 13:30:00 - [24] - Quote They anouced DUST 514 like full release some time ago, but it feels still more like beta or demo/shareware if you want. Boyo that reminds me shareware vesions long time ago on Cds from game magazines.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1862	Posted - 2013.10.20 13:41:00 - [25] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Hey, CCP calls it a full release people can act on the assumption it is a full release. We don't need a bunch of whiny pedantic asses arguing about whether it is really a real full release and so on. CCP can call it what ever the **** they want.. it is their game after all. BUT that doesn't stop the fact the the game isn't complete. Sam Tektzby comparison with a shareware software is actually very accurate.
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 272	Posted - 2013.10.20 13:47:00 - [26] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. Yeah, if a reset happens they'll lose more customers then gain, so have fun with that. And I personally would leave and not recommend this game to anyone. Not a great marketing move.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1707	Posted - 2013.10.20 13:57:00 - [27] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: CCP can call it what ever the **** they want.. it is their game after all. BUT that doesn't stop the fact the the game isn't complete. Sam Tektzby comparison with a shareware software is actually very accurate. I'm not saying it is complete... I'm saying the manufacturer gave us guidance that we are under full release and we can hopefully set our expectations (concerning skills and paid expenditures) accordingly.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7061	Posted - 2013.10.20 14:01:00 - [28] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: CCP can call it what ever the **** they want.. it is their game after all. BUT that doesn't stop the fact the the game isn't complete. Sam Tektzby comparison with a shareware software is actually very accurate. I'm not saying it is complete... I'm saying the manufacturer gave us guidance that we are under full release and we can hopefully set our expectations (concerning skills and paid expenditures) accordingly. All I know is respec incoming so ::victory dance::
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1862	Posted - 2013.10.20 14:02:00 - [29] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. Yeah, if a reset happens they'll lose more customers then gain, so have fun with that. And I personally would leave and not recommend this game to anyone. Not a great marketing move. Yeah, yeah...you worrying about losing your Scrub privileges, scare that you may suck without your 20 mil SP and your Prototype equipment. Good riddance as far as i'm consent.... drop all the Scrubs ... I hope CCP have the balls... i really do.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7061	Posted - 2013.10.20 14:04:00 - [30] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. Yeah, if a reset happens they'll lose more customers then gain, so have fun with that. And I personally would leave and not recommend this game to anyone. Not a great marketing move. Yeah, yeah...you worrying about losing your Scrub privileges, scare that you may suck without your 20 mil SP and your Prototype equipment. Good riddance as far as i'm consent.... drop all the Scrubs ... I hope CCP have the balls... i really do. So what you're saying is that they should get rid of SP entirely, since eventually we'll be right back here and we'll need another reset. Strong argument.

Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1862	Posted - 2013.10.20 14:09:00 - [31] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. Yeah, if a reset happens they'll lose more customers then gain, so have fun with that. And I personally would leave and not recommend this game to anyone. Not a great marketing move. Yeah, yeah...you worrying about losing your Scrub privileges, scare that you may suck without your 20 mil SP and your Prototype equipment. Good riddance as far as i'm consent.... drop all the Scrubs ... I hope CCP have the balls... i really do. So what you're saying is that they should get rid of SP entirely, since eventually we'll be right back here and we'll need another reset. Strong argument. I saying... that if you good at the game, why you care if it is a reset or not ? I talk you why... you got used to the Easy kills and feeling like you are a lot better than what you truly are. I have nearly 20 mil SP... and I welcome a reset, because i know it will make no difference to me.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1707	Posted - 2013.10.20 14:09:00 - [32] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is respec incoming so ::victory dance:: I'm all for allowing respecs... especially if they make it "rare" and possibly "less rare" if people are willing to spend aurum to get out of one specialization and into another.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7063	Posted - 2013.10.20 14:59:00 - [33] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. Yeah, if a reset happens they'll lose more customers then gain, so have fun with that. And I personally would leave and not recommend this game to anyone. Not a great marketing move. Yeah, yeah...you worrying about losing your Scrub privileges, scare that you may suck without your 20 mil SP and your Prototype equipment. Good riddance as far as i'm consent.... drop all the Scrubs ... I hope CCP have the balls... i really do. So what you're saying is that they should get rid of SP entirely, since eventually we'll be right back here and we'll need another reset. Strong argument. I saying... that if you good at the game, why you care if it is a reset or not ? I talk you why... you got used to the Easy kills and feeling like you are a lot better than what you truly are. I have nearly 20 mil SP... and I welcome a reset, because i know it will make no difference to me. Yea, I'm not in the mood to grind out X amount of months to get back into vehicles after grinding for a year and a half. I use mostly BPOs anyways when I'm grinding out ISK for my next coffin.
Cosgar ParagonX 6209	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:00:00 - [34] - Quote If they're looking for a way to give respecs, it's not just going to be a clean respec like we've gotten. Expect a deal with thr devil scenario.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1660	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:00:00 - [35] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This comes from the same source that told us that BPOs were being removed from inventories. CCP Logibro wrote: Hey all, We just wanted to clarify statements made about the removal of BPOs. We are in the process of removing BPOs from the market. We have already removed them from the in game market, and we will eventually be removing them from packs available on the PSN Store. We are not removing any existing BPOs from any player inventories and there are no plans to do so. BPOs are currently not functioning as intended so we are looking at the way they work in game. Again, we would like to reiterate that they will not be removed from any inventories.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7063	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:02:00 - [36] - Quote Cosgar wrote: If they're looking for a way to give respecs, it's not just going to be a clean respec like we've gotten. Expect a deal with thr devil scenario. Maybe in the future, but the winter expansion will likely come with a full respec, though you may have to submit a ticket again.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 414	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:10:00 - [37] - Quote A reset is out of the question. They would have to give Aurum back. Reason being, they chose to say the game is officially out. People used real money to not just buy weapons and suits etc but boosters to gain SP. If you take the SP away you have to give the money back. At full racial sym just give a respec; make it optional so once you log in you have like say a month to choose the option or ignore it. They created the issue so they have to address it.
Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 111	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:18:00 - [38] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This comes from the same source that told us that BPOs were being removed from inventories. to be fair though i watched the EVE vegas feed and the two guys on stage did say that at some point BPOs would be removed completely, both from market and inventories. tbh i think they wasn't supposed to say anything and they have had to go back on it because the playerbase would simply cease to buy the elite/veteran packs and most would probs cancel the orders for the eve collectors edition too.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1872	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:28:00 - [39] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This comes from the same source that told us that BPOs were being removed from inventories. Um... yeah h said they might still be removed , he wasn't lying. Just it won't happen now, they are looking at banning bpo sales on the player market making them untradable relic items. So only old old players could use them. Fr the massive almost completely redisnged dust we will be playing in a year I can understand why they'd do this. HOWEVER the most important point he made was all scouts are done. And some members of the community oh oh that's me! have been telling CCP to stop releasing massive dropsuit rebalance changes untill all of the dropsuits have been added to the game. So thwy won't release them untill they are all done. This I can believe is true and most of the work is done. Thank god. yes ccp thank you! don't release it until your ready! also please release with al of the suit skill changes! hold that sucker back until it's ready but don't take too long!
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 414	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:45:00 - [40] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This comes from the same source that told us that BPOs were being removed from inventories. Um... yeah h said they might still be removed , he wasn't lying. Just it won't happen now, they are looking at banning bpo sales on the player market making them untradable relic items. So only old old players could use them. Fr the massive almost completely redisnged dust we will be playing in a year I can understand why they'd do this. HOWEVER the most important point he made was all scouts are done. And some members of the community oh oh that's me! have been telling CCP to stop releasing massive dropsuit rebalance changes untill all of the dropsuits have been added to the game. So thwy won't release them untill they are all done. This I can believe is true and most of the work is done. Thank god. yes ccp thank you! don't release it until your ready! also please release with al of the suit skill changes! hold that sucker back until it's ready but don't take too long! So then thats Scouts and possibly Pilots (their skills may change with vehicle rebalance) done and only the other 3 heavies left to be done. Heavies wont have a 2nd alternate specialization but full racial symmetry soon (real not tm) would be awesome.

General John Ripper MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 3772	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:47:00 - [41] - Quote I don't believe in zion shad.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7064	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:51:00 - [42] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: I don't believe in zion shad. Watch the stream I just heard the dev say they want to make sure to offer respecs with the big changes they plan on making. WOOO RESPECS!!!
Sports Dude ShoGunnerz 249	Posted - 2013.10.20 15:56:00 - [43] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: General John Ripper wrote: I don't believe in zion shad. Watch the stream I just heard the dev say they want to make sure to offer respecs with the big changes they plan on making. WOOO RESPECS!!! WOOO!
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1512	Posted - 2013.10.20 16:18:00 - [44] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Respec is inevitable! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1408205#post1408205 I don't care as much as I do about you being in my alliance!
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 441	Posted - 2013.10.20 16:30:00 - [45] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. I would be with this 100% only if Tiers were completely removed from the game.
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 280	Posted - 2013.10.24 15:17:00 - [46] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. Yeah, if a reset happens they'll lose more customers then gain, so have fun with that. And I personally would leave and not recommend this game to anyone. Not a great marketing move. Yeah, yeah...you worrying about losing your Scrub privileges, scare that you may suck without your 20 mil SP and your Prototype equipment. Good riddance as far as i'm consent.... drop all the Scrubs ... I hope CCP have the balls... i really do. Scrub privelages... Man your ***** ****** haha
Onesimus Tarsus Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 675	Posted - 2013.10.24 15:39:00 - [47] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Of course a respec is inevitable, we don't even playing the full game yet. I personally hoping for a Reset... start everything from scratch, give the community a chance to grow again properly. Yeah, if a reset happens they'll lose more customers then gain, so have fun with that. And I personally would leave and not recommend this game to anyone. Not a great marketing move. Yeah, yeah...you worrying about losing your Scrub privileges, scare that you may suck without your 20 mil SP and your Prototype equipment. Good riddance as far as i'm consent.... drop all the Scrubs ... I hope CCP have the balls... i really do. So what you're saying is that they should get rid of SP entirely, since eventually we'll be right back here and we'll need another reset. Strong argument. I saying... that if you good at the game, why you care if it is a reset or not ? I talk you why... you got used to the Easy kills and feeling like you are a lot better than what you truly are. I have nearly 20 mil SP... and I welcome a reset, because i know it will make no difference to me. So, you're not using any of your sp now?
RedBleach LeSanglant Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 440	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:12:00 - [48] - Quote I would be wary as ever for such a thing. However, should it come to pass I would desire the release of the rest of the core suits (heavies, scouts) and the restructuring of the skill system so that the basic changes will be an unchanging foundation allowing for the future expansions to be addons and function that way.


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