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Nightbird Aeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
323
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:36:00 -
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Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4097
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:41:00 -
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Nobody hates good snipers.
A good sniper is someone who does his job.
- Stop hacks
- Hears callouts for enemy snipers, then counter snipe them
- The better snipers MOVE from their tent and camp fire to find better spots to help their team from
- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches.
Simple. KD doesn't mean much when you're sniping. What matters is how much you help. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
2278
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:42:00 -
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I'd say area denial, like keeping the pipes clear in domination. |
Nightbird Aeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
325
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:43:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Nobody hates good snipers.
A good sniper is someone who does his job.
- Stop hacks
- Hears callouts for enemy snipers, then counter snipe them
- The better snipers MOVE from their tent and camp fire to find better spots to help their team from
- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches.
Simple. KD doesn't mean much when you're sniping. What matters is how much you help.
Agreed.
I have a couple of proto-sniper loadouts... but I generally only pull them out when counter-sniping is required. Other than that... I WP ***** with uplinks, nanohives and needles.
Oh yeah.... and killing redberries.
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Nightbird Aeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
325
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:43:00 -
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Skihids wrote:I'd say area denial, like keeping the pipes clear in domination.
"Keeping the pipes clear in domination" is also a good trait for a date....
...just sayin' |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
460
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:44:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Nobody hates good snipers.
A good sniper is someone who does his job.
- Stop hacks
- Hears callouts for enemy snipers, then counter snipe them
- The better snipers MOVE from their tent and camp fire to find better spots to help their team from
- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches.
Simple. KD doesn't mean much when you're sniping. What matters is how much you help.
You forgot "a good sniper thins out enemy crowds". Much easier for your team to fight enemies who only have half armor left |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1161
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:44:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
- The better snipers MOVE from their tent and camp fire to find better spots to help their team from
- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches.
First point: a good sniper finds one spot where he can see the whole map and still not die
Second point: I agree and practice this regularly......or I just use a commando suit and do both at the same time |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2257
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:47:00 -
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You need to either A.) stop hacks Or B.) support the players who are assaulting a point.
Bad snipers are the ones that care only about KDR and don't contribute anything special. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9516
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:47:00 -
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When I land a dropship on them. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
357
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:48:00 -
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Never, nothing brings me joy like hunting down the cowardly S.O.B.s and putting rounds in the back of their head, its my sole use for the hunter scouts they gave us recently |
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
253
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:48:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts? We only hate the redline scrubs |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4099
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:51:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Nobody hates good snipers.
A good sniper is someone who does his job.
- Stop hacks
- Hears callouts for enemy snipers, then counter snipe them
- The better snipers MOVE from their tent and camp fire to find better spots to help their team from
- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches.
Simple. KD doesn't mean much when you're sniping. What matters is how much you help. You forgot "a good sniper thins out enemy crowds". Much easier for your team to fight enemies who only have half armor left
isn't that what EVERY sniper try to do? Not rocket science, yet even that some can be useless at because of the spots they're trying to "thin out". |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
130
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:03:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts?
Reduce all damage from shots fired in the red line by 90%
I used my Thales on my Sniper ALT and was going 10-0 + every game with no effort at all by red line sniping
Snipers get hate because of the red line problem .. it's basically a safe zone |
HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
77
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:06:00 -
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Haven't you learned yet? Any role that isn't a slayer is hated. Watch the forums for Logibro hating, AV hating, tanker hating, sniper hating...the list goes on. I love my slayer brothers, but I also love all the other roles in this game (can't get enough of the proto scout ninja nova knives master who chases my heavy down and knifes me right in the face).
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1471
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:10:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches. Just like a good tanker knows when to get the **** out of his tank and speedhack the objective because there is no one else there to do it
The way the scattered blaster gunner in a tank knows when to get out of the ******* tank and kill the swarms outside his range.
The way an assault knows when to stop omgwtfsuicide charging into the mass of red dots and learn to flank. Or learns to run away to save clones or delay the enemy.
The way a good logi knows when to pull out a gun and shoot people instead of spamming more links or watching the enemy burn through your reps on a reloading heavy's
... ******* hate people who can't get operate outside their single-minded self-defined "role" if/when the situation calls for it to support the goal of "winning". /shrug ... otoh, 'winning' isn't everyone's goal lol |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
150
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:14:00 -
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If you're calling out info and getting more than a few kills and people are still hating, that's good. It means they really have no clue what you are doing and where you are, thus you are doing your job properly. And if you only have a handful of kills and didn't call out any info, but that red sniper was never able to harass your team, then you were counter sniping properly. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1069
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:21:00 -
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I stop hating on snipers as soon as I stop getting 1 shot killed by them. Sooooo 95% of the time I don't even have a reason to hate aside from being mildly annoyed. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4100
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:28:00 -
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HyperionsThunder wrote:Haven't you learned yet? Any role that isn't a slayer is hated. Watch the forums for Logibro hating, AV hating, tanker hating, sniper hating...the list goes on. I love my slayer brothers, but I also love all the other roles in this game (can't get enough of the proto scout ninja nova knives master who chases my heavy down and knifes me right in the face).
Nah I think there's a special place in everyone's heart for sniper hating |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1878
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:30:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts?
When they get to be useful: GÖª Calling enemy movements to the whole team GÖª Protecting a certain choke point and/or Objective (like ''A'' in the 3 obj map) GÖª When they COVER their team instead of stealing kills from them GÖª After 10 kills
This is, in my case... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6121
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:31:00 -
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When they get off the redline. |
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
1151
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:31:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts? 20 kills unless they are on comms, then it's 10.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1012
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:57:00 -
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There's more to it than just Kills. Unless you're in Ambush, this isn't a race to 0 combatants. And, unless you're consistently putting down 30+ Kills then you're not really significantly helping with the clone-ácount either.
Sniping from an area that allows you to be able to rehack an objective is the most helpful a sniper can be without calling in hostile positions to the team. |
Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
115
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:When I land a dropship on them. you'd hate me then because not only will I hear you coming I'll wait for you to land near me to try to kill me so I can kill you otherwise i'd just call a tank in to shoot you out of the sky |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
613
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:41:00 -
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When assaults can do their job without the sniper having to do it for them. You hava a team of good assaults or bad assaults. Usually, it's a team with a leet proto stomp squad in it. They will win despite what anybody else does. The bad team will lose despite anything you can do to help.
Proofs in the pudding. Until matchmaking is fixed I'll lolplay this travesty of a game. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
332
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:43:00 -
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Never! The gayar snipicus is wholly the dumbest breed of dustite. |
Chad Michael Murray
The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance
98
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:00:00 -
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When they leave the redline and do their job. |
Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
312
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:02:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts? any sniper that spends the entire match behind the redline is a waste of biomass regardless of kills. They are taking advantage of a situation that was implemented to stop people from farming kills from people dropping from the mcc. |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
676
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:13:00 -
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I'll stop hating snipers as soon as I bury a Nova Knife in their backs. (note: I don't really hate all snipers. Just the redline ones.) |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
840
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:16:00 -
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People stop hating when they contribute to the team in a meaningful way! On the new maps this means they need to move rather often to get the best positions!
There should never be a spot that gives control of more than 15% of the battlefield at a time! Also is worth noting snipers who are hooked upto the comms are idenifinetly more useful than those who are silent!
People like a guardian angel, they like them more when they are proficient with Sniper Rifles! |
lrian Locust
We Who Walk Alone
219
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:17:00 -
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DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: We only hate the redline scrubs
What about redline vets, who never leave the redline with their Thales?
They get loads of kills, so they do contribute.
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lrian Locust
We Who Walk Alone
219
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:18:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:I used my Thales on my Sniper ALT and was going 10-0 + every game with no effort at all by red line sniping If you get 10 kills from the red line, it's usually random players walking around. Or other snipers. It still doesn't help much in the grand scheme of the battle. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1570
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:38:00 -
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A while ago. Had to tell myself to suck it up and stop whining about it. If they are knocking me down, then I'm not doing something right.
Only you can prevent forest fires... |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1688
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:39:00 -
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My kills vary inversely with other things I'm trying to do.
If I'm running around the enemy end trying to hack something, or track down other undefended objectives, I'll get killed more and not have a lot of time to do much sniping.
Alternately, if I'm scanning like a mofo I'm not busy shooting.
Or, maybe, when I am running around to drop some badly needed uplinks to make more objectives accessible...
Screw it. People are just going to hate snipers.
Du.
Du hast.
Du hast mich.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecupc6NDZY8 |
jlpgaming2752
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
4
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:23:00 -
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Since the patch to passive radar. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2167
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:28:00 -
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I wouldnt say I hate them but I do think most of them arent worth a damn if they just hide somewhere in the red zone with their thumbs up their ass
The moment I start to think a sniper is worthwhile though is when I see an objective of ours getting hacked but then immediately see "The Amazing not useless blueberry (Sniper Rifle) Some poor red bastard" show up in the kill feed and our objective is no longer being hacked |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1120
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Posted - 2013.10.18 01:30:00 -
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I only hate snipers when they account for 10 out of 16 on my team. |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
504
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:When I land a dropship on them.
Yah, this happens.
If you look it up, "Squished by Dropship" accounts for 0.00000000004002700871% of the sniper kills.
Munch |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
720
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:56:00 -
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I red line snipe with my thale and go on average 20+ kills. Today was a great day 37 blue dots confirmed KIA. Hate me all you want, then you love me when I help slay the other team. When a sniper goes 4 kills you have no idea what they have had to do to get those kills. I have been there before, reason playing tag with other snipers can take time and it at least keeps them focused on me and not my team. So hate me, I do not care for I will continue to be me as my Kills are soon to surpass 20K. Its ok for assault to go 1 for 1 and end the match with 1-11 with 300 WP, why because he is not in the red line. Why I can go 20+ kills and I am hated because I am using a tactic that is used in actual combat. Sorry I will use what ever I can to kill, win, and punish the other team. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
402
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:09:00 -
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I don't hate them, I just respawn in my Nova Knife scout fit, go to where ALL the snipers are, and well...kill them ALL. |
Lanius Pulvis
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:26:00 -
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I know an opposing sniper is doing his job when I have to whip out my own to countersnipe. |
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Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
137
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:00:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I red line snipe with my thale and go on average 20+ kills. Today was a great day 37 blue dots confirmed KIA. Hate me all you want, then you love me when I help slay the other team. When a sniper goes 4 kills you have no idea what they have had to do to get those kills. I have been there before, reason playing tag with other snipers can take time and it at least keeps them focused on me and not my team. So hate me, I do not care for I will continue to be me as my Kills are soon to surpass 20K. Its ok for assault to go 1 for 1 and end the match with 1-11 with 300 WP, why because he is not in the red line . Why I can go 20+ kills and I am hated because I am using a tactic that is used in actual combat. Sorry I will use what ever I can to kill, win, and punish the other team.
I do that too .. big whoop .. it's ridiculously easy .. as soon as we can;t snipe in the red line and can actually be killed there by weapons other than sniper rifles or the odd forge gun then the QQ will stop .. the issue is never with people actually sniping and getting kills PS played v you in game and have yet to see you even get close to double figures so you must do extremely well in games when you aren;t up against us to make up for how badly you do against us
FYI
-In real combat snipers aren't covered from being attacked by enemies by an imaginary red line that means they have a 300m + safety net
-At proto level if the sniper has skilled correctly he can sit in a 1k hp suit in the red line and only be killed in 2 + hits by someone else using a proto sniper/officer sniper rifle therefore the whole counter sniping argument falls out of the window expecting everyone to spec into proto snipers to kill snipers
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
334
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:07:00 -
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...Hmmm... I wonder if we'll get artillery in this game |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
57
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:12:00 -
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i would say most people hate on the snipers, when it starts out as one or two good snipers on the edge of the map, or what ever effective nest they have, and ends up being half the team just because the opposition became greater |
Auraxos
Redline Defense Force The Scourge.
10
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:19:00 -
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Well personally, I LOVE sniping. I just hate whoever snipes me. |
Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
73
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:31:00 -
[45] - Quote
I use sniperfit only to prevent hacking the objective or countersniping redliners. |
Moonrocks
Stars Protect Systems Incorporation
2
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:When I land a dropship on them.
f you remain motionless and standing in a zone cleared (without cover) to wait for your vehicle, you are the perfect TargetGǪ
a lesson to be learned which imposes you the sniper .. and you know in Dust and Eve if you If you are slow to learn lesson that this can expensively be very expensive to youGǪ you haven't finish to cry and rage
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
306
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:45:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts?
When I'm hacking a control point and I finish, turn around and find 3 enemy bodies on the ground behind me but I am still full shields |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
323
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:52:00 -
[48] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:
When they get to be useful: GÖª Calling enemy movements to the whole team - CHECK GÖª Protecting a certain choke point and/or Objective (like ''A'' in the 3 obj map) - CHECK GÖª When they COVER their team instead of stealing kills from them - CHECK GÖª After 10 kills - CHECK
Done. I'm useful.
Also, I lol my ass off when I kill the guy over and over again (even better when he get needled and I pop him again).
Priceless. |
Moonrocks
Stars Protect Systems Incorporation
2
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:53:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Nightbird Aeon wrote:Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts? When I'm hacking a control point and I finish, turn around and find 3 enemy bodies on the ground behind me but I am still full shields
tryed to have good shoot ligne Through the structureis not easy |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1839
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:54:00 -
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You don't doing you job properly if people don't hates you as a Sniper....The more hate you get, the better you doing.
I'm pretty sure i **** off people a lot when i shoot them in the head, just when they are 1 second away from hacking a terminal.
Sniper = Hate is GOOOOOODDDDD |
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Victor889
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
33
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:55:00 -
[51] - Quote
When they countersnipe the problem sniper's on the opposing team, and then change their fit to actually help PTFO. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1266
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:07:00 -
[52] - Quote
Rogatien Merc wrote:Just like a good tanker knows when to get the **** out of his tank and speedhack the objective because there is no one else there to do it
That gets you sniped. I've done that to far too many "tankers" to pull that stunt myself... |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
256
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:39:00 -
[53] - Quote
Rinzler XVII wrote:FYI
-In real combat snipers aren't covered from being attacked by enemies by an imaginary red line that means they have a 300m + safety net
-At proto level if the sniper has skilled correctly he can sit in a 1k hp suit in the red line and only be killed in 2 + hits by someone else using a proto sniper/officer sniper rifle therefore the whole counter sniping argument falls out of the window expecting everyone to spec into proto snipers to kill snipers
I think you're forgetting the point where the automated turrets on the enemy MCC aim and fire at you? You don't get that in real life either. What about shields? Oh wait... nope. Can snipers use camoflague? In real life, but not in a game it seems.
As for that proto babble... if a regular Sniper Rifle is used it takes 2-3 hits to the head. they often don't move till after the 2nd shot is fired anyway. Proto argument is invalidated by basic aiming skill. Whoop-de-do! :/
Either you're just digging for scraps or you're horrible at this accusation business. |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
3840
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:45:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Nobody hates good snipers.
A good sniper is someone who does his job.
- Stop hacks
- Hears callouts for enemy snipers, then counter snipe them
- The better snipers MOVE from their tent and camp fire to find better spots to help their team from
- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches.
Simple. KD doesn't mean much when you're sniping. What matters is how much you help. You forgot "a good sniper thins out enemy crowds". Much easier for your team to fight enemies who only have half armor left
I love having 6 or More snipers on my team thinning out the ranks. It means I get shot at more while I'm on the ground trying to hack the point by myself.
Seriously im seeing matches with almost half a team sniping. By your logic we should win that match. |
Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
31
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:47:00 -
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The only gripe I have with snipers on my team is when they are in excess amount, I was in a Dom match yesterday and we had 9 snipers, the terrain was terrible for it too, meanwhile me and two assaults struggled in vain attempts to wrest control of it to no avail because we didn't have enough boots on the ground.
I am fine with sniping, as irritating as it is to get taken out in three hits (Two on my commando), I see the value of them, the real irritation comes from the lack of counter sniping, and people who don't have a vested interest in winning. |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:53:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Nobody hates good snipers.
A good sniper is someone who does his job.
- Stop hacks
- Hears callouts for enemy snipers, then counter snipe them
- The better snipers MOVE from their tent and camp fire to find better spots to help their team from
- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches.
Simple. KD doesn't mean much when you're sniping. What matters is how much you help.
I agree. Particularly with the counter sniping. There is almost nothing infantry can do to counter a sniper unless they spend minutes hunting them down on foot. Enemy snipers will continue to be a threat until friendly snipers neutralize them. I hate any sniper who hides from enemy snipers just so they can pick off infantry without being challenged. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:42:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Nobody hates good snipers.
A good sniper is someone who does his job.
- Stop hacks
- Hears callouts for enemy snipers, then counter snipe them
- The better snipers MOVE from their tent and camp fire to find better spots to help their team from
- A good PLAYER knows when to put the sniper rifle down, and get his arse off the mountains to help in the trenches.
Simple. KD doesn't mean much when you're sniping. What matters is how much you help. You forgot "a good sniper thins out enemy crowds". Much easier for your team to fight enemies who only have half armor left I love having 6 or More snipers on my team thinning out the ranks. It means I get shot at more while I'm on the ground trying to hack the point by myself. Seriously im seeing matches with almost half a team sniping. By your logic we should win that match.
Where did I say an entire team of sniper makes sense? |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
469
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:15:00 -
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Nightbird Aeon wrote:Now, I think everyone can agree that some mouth-breathing blue dot hiding in the red line, getting 4 kills/match is about as useful as **** on a bull.... right?
So that begs the question.... at what point do people stop hating on snipers?
10 kills? 15 kills?
Good intel and area-denial, plus "x" kills?
Snipers, particularly good snipers, have a role on the battlefield. So is the hate being generated directed towards all snipers, or just the bad ones?
Thoughts? I hate no one. no one has any right to complain about another persons playstyle even if it is not good. Play how you want to play my friend |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:25:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Just like a good tanker knows when to get the **** out of his tank and speedhack the objective because there is no one else there to do it That gets you sniped. I've done that to far too many "tankers" to pull that stunt myself...
Haha, true that. It's worth doing at the start of the match, where you've got your tank in first and can therefore get to the central objective first, but otherwise... |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:22:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:FYI
-In real combat snipers aren't covered from being attacked by enemies by an imaginary red line that means they have a 300m + safety net
FYI, this isn't the real word. |
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Dalorian Riften
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:23:00 -
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When he starts counter sniping the bastard farming tears at B |
Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:18:00 -
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Most of the sniper hate is reserved for those who have given up on the win too early in the match. They die a few times (OMG KDR) and decide they can pad their stats during the last 75% of the round.
It will be much less of a problem when match size increases to 48 or 64, because having a few specialists will not hurt the front line fights. As it stands now, having multiple 'dedicated' snipers will usually tip the fight towards a loss... just like pilots who spend most of their time running from AV fire (Dropship pilots - I'm looking at you.). They have to ask themselves if what they're doing is helping the team and change accordingly. Go ahead and burn through a few clones if that's what it takes to win. |
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