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Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:35:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
Nice try, make another character and post again will ya? |
skippy678
F.T.U.
100
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:36:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted. 1 less poor playin blue berry to steal my dropship.. everybody here recognizes that you are not that good, if you want i think we will all play worse if you come back..but just fo you.......loser..get good or get gone 1m an 18 million SP player and I still get stomped once and a while, but sometimes I dont and thats why I play..... Hey everybody....lets let this guy win a bit so he will stay......hahahahahaha
And I hope you didnt really delete...because when I log on today I'm gonna send you loser mail too!! I didnt even witness it my self but you told me all about it
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Nick nugg3t
United Universe Corp
194
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:39:00 -
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this all sounds like fake
just putting it out there  |
Aleksander Black
Immortal Retribution
187
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:50:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:the only thing that doesnt make sense is that:
1 he is on the forums
2 he knows dust terms
3 he left the academy in one battle
4 no dust bunny ive seen is this good from scratch
^ This.
Move along guys, troll thread. |
General Sideboob
Ground Pounders Inc.
114
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:58:00 -
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This game is going to have about 12 players if they don't make it a priority to end proto stomping. All they need is a graduated tier system, y'know like they have in Eve with the sec. levels.
Fact is, CCP is hoping that each new player will buy some AUR before they figure out how broken the game is. |
Sneaky Fletcher
Three-body Solution
49
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:58:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:This game is the Demon Souls/Dark Souls of FPS.
it's not the dark souls of anything...
In the same way as Eve is not the dark souls of MMO...
See this OP?
Dust is the FPS where players and devs have their heads so far up their a** that they think a broken game compares to a great games just because they like to/are used to endure:
the disconnects, the grind, the protostomp, the lack of balanced weapons, a matchmaking system that actually works and the promises... oh the promises... *echo*SOON TM*echo*
Run away OP!! and come back when the content resembles that of a polished complete AAA game.
and by when I mean IF that day ever comes
TL;DR go play GTAV don't waste your time, even black flag looks promising, wait for Destiny if you wish you're not missing out on anything but a grind |
MCEINSTEIN08
ADAMANTIUM CORE
51
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:08:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
Hello Budo Kai-San,
Don't give-up because of some "idiots" going around DUST514. Most of the players here have good spirits.
Yes, entering a game that was out for a while is never easy. Allot of frustration. But if you find the right people, or just a good group of people, you will enjoy this game as much as I/We do.
Many people advise you here, like they said, if you need help, I/We are more then happy to help you get your groove going.
Give it another chance.
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Leadfoot10
molon labe.
RISE of LEGION
88
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:14:00 -
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Odd....
I had a similar experience -- got steamrolled by better players in better suits for quite some time (about 2000 deaths -- a few months).
However, unlike the quitter's mentality exhibited (or purported to have been exhibited) by the OP, I thought...
"Damn, this is a real challenge.... I love it!"
And now that I kill more than I die the resulting sense of accomplishment is more than worth the hit to my ego in the early days.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose....Lead |
8213
Grade No.2
405
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:45:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:I like how some of you guys say this game has a steep learning curve and isnt just horrible balanced when it comes to tiers of equipment
what are you saying? Its not like Tier III to Tier V in Specialty Dropsuits (Scout, Logi, Assault) is an insane number of SP like 2 million or something....
ohhhhhh... nevermind |
Hawkings Greenback
Red Star.
EoN.
81
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:46:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
Probably for the best. 
CCP be trolling everyone for 18 months, this game needs to get its **** together. It has (did have?) promise.
Day 1: It's stupidly easy to get out of the acadamy in the first match and after that you are permanantly at a disadvantage unless you can get lucky & find a starter corp to help you out or you are an fps god or just don't mind a challenge & trying not to die a lot.
Day 2: If you managed to stay past day 1 & try again why were you expecting it to be different the next day??
Search the corp recruitment section & find people who can help you out, otherwise play smart, squad up, use a mic. Surviving is a learning experience use the knowledge you gain to help you next time.
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Her Nibs
Pradox One
53
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:54:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted. Bullshit ur a new player. New players don't no terms like protostomped Nor do I belive u cleared BA in one go. Also matchmaker for new players is normaly quite good. Older players can't get round it by makeing alts as it's done by account not character. So yeh troll somewhere else
Just takes 1 person in a game to say we are being proto stomped. You pick up the terminology. The training academy isn+¿t what it used to be. Now it is possible to get out in 1 day. Don't give up. We girls can hold our own..so you can too. Just give it time. Shoot and hide and learn from the players around you. |
Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
39
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:09:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
Quick answer:
Join Dust University, they will teach you the ropes.
Slightly longer answer:
I don't think the right term to use anymore is "proto stomp", since even the proto users complain they are now being killed by militia weapons. 
What I think happened was that the opposition was more experienced than you, and by that I don't mean skills or gear, but just a fundamental knowledge of the strategies and gameplay of Dust 514.
I created an Alt to check out the new tutorial, and after exiting the academy (in two games, so you beat me there), I thought I would get my a** handed to me, but it did not happen to my surprise  . I managed to go positive KDR in all games, since:
1) I knew the maps outside in
2) I knew how to pick my targets
3) I knew when NOT to engage the enemy
Etc.
This outweighed (by far) the fact that I was running around in the starter fit with basic gear. (And man did I feel naked without my active scanner!!)
I hardly think you can get this knowledge after two days, so my advice would be to get back in there, and follow my first advice. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
125
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:57:00 -
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This is the best advice I can give to new players:
1. Create main character (the one with passive SP activated) and play until you're told you are leaving academy
2. Create first alt until you're told you are leaving academy, then biomass (delete) it
3. Create second alt until you're told you are leaving academy, then biomass (delete) it
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 for three months, by which time you'll have experience from all those academy battles, and 2 mil passive SP on your main
5. Finally go back to your main and launch your first non-academy battle
Unfortunately you will probably be leaving the academy after your first battle each time, so you will have to create a new character for each battle you fight, and will only be able to fight two battles per day due to the ten hour biomass queue (unless you make extra accounts). Blame CCP for making the academy WP threshold so low. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
657
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:05:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
Hmm this thread sounds familiar..
General Sideboob wrote:Got proto stomped 20 games in a row. See you next update.
Oh right. 20 games + proto stomp, got it. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
129
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:22:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted. Bullshit ur a new player. New players don't no terms like protostomped Nor do I belive u cleared BA in one go. Also matchmaker for new players is normaly quite good. Older players can't get round it by makeing alts as it's done by account not character. So yeh troll somewhere else
Squadfinder=New players in squads with experienced players who likely have mics .. take part in a match where they get slaughtered and protostomped .. hears people in squad say that they got protostomped .... now knows the term protostmped
You only need 1200 WP to advance out of the academy ... seeing as your in a match with other new players it is pretty easy to get 1200WP if you've played FPS games before especially when everyone is using miltia gear and are evenly balanced
Just because you dont like what he/she said doesn;t mean it isn;t true |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
778
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:37:00 -
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8213 wrote:I call fake.
How does someone play the game 2 days and is fully aware of the term "Protostomp"?
I think this guy made an alt to try and make a point.
All new players will get stomped, not just Protostomped. I think CCP needs to start players off with more money, so they at least have a chance in a STD fit.
Iv seen a few of these posts clearly by ALTs, otherwise he was probably in fw being a typical scrub lol, you know the kd padding you randomly come across while fighting lol. |
ghjl ghjkl
Patriotic Investment Group Inc.
11
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:45:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
I call bull. I have played like total crap consistently for months on end and I haven't got the first mail. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3273
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:07:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:I like how some of you guys say this game has a steep learning curve and isnt just horrible balanced when it comes to tiers of equipment
I'll compare Dust's learning curve to EVE's learning curve......
Its **** easy.
Just try and gun down a Fire Tail with Tech 1 lasers in EVE, just try it. It doesn't matter how skilful you are, he'll be hitting you for X hundred damage and you hitting him for 32....
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Meeko Fent
DUST University
Ivy League
1215
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:09:00 -
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That's basically the NPE.
******* fix proto-stomping.
Lock proto suits, have a squad free mode, Tiericide (I particularly prefer this idea)
One of the 3 need to be done, or this game is toast for new players. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Robbing The Hood
Public Disorder.
354
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:11:00 -
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Protostomped? well where did you learn that? |
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Auraxos
Redline Defense Force
The Scourge.
9
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Posted - 2013.10.17 20:40:00 -
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Sorry bro, but Auraxos calls it fake. |
CrotchGrab 360
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
347
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:50:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
Cool story br... wait... sad story bro  at least give me your ISK before you go. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1569
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:33:00 -
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How do we not know this isn't a troll? Some guys do take the extra time to make characters and bring up complaint threads because they are guaranteed to get more attention since they are "new".
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But something about the OP seems off, as if he already had in mind the game sucked before he even really tried it out... |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
1476
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:42:00 -
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trraacx wrote:After several months with my kids still misallocating my SP...
... lmao. you sir, made my day. stealthily providing perspective to this game we all play on hardcore mode lol.
+infinity
edit...
Michael Arck wrote:How do we not know this isn't a troll? Some guys do take the extra time to make characters and bring up complaint threads because they are guaranteed to get more attention since they are "new".
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But something about the OP seems off, as if he already had in mind the game sucked before he even really tried it out...
Always assume OP is a troll bro... always... |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
1476
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Delta 749 wrote:I like how some of you guys say this game has a steep learning curve and isnt just horrible balanced when it comes to tiers of equipment I'll compare Dust's learning curve to EVE's learning curve...... Its **** easy. Just try and gun down a Fire Tail with Tech 1 lasers in EVE, just try it. It doesn't matter how skilful you are, he'll be hitting you for X hundred damage and you hitting him for 32....
And then you got on the forums and were all like "OMFG WTF CCP?!  Nerf firetails that **** is bullshit!!!!" cuz you couldn't 1v1 him right??? RIGHT??!?!?!!?!
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LOS HAWK
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
66
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:50:00 -
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I call bullshit on OP for one thing there is no way as a NooB to dust514 [idc if your a vet in BF123@4 or COD modern black fare ) this game is tough and that fact you know about "protostomp" and going on the forum is bullshit your just trolling but i bet you still play this game lol.. dust514 is #swimOrDrown #forthehardcore |
LOS HAWK
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
66
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Posted - 2013.10.17 23:55:00 -
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Lol i missed my point what i was saying is there is no way as a noob to dust514 you nade 1200 WP in one match
i mean i can do that cause im.used to playing the game and i know how it works anyeay just talk about something.else like who you want to hire for a PC battle like apple20x that dude is a bad ass tanker |
Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
314
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Posted - 2013.10.18 00:07:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
There are a lot of kids / idiots so keep that in mind.
re-install the game give psygod a shout or any members in it. We generally are not a newbie corp so i can't say we will put you into the corp however there are a lot of people i play with from psygod that wouldn't mind talking to you and showing you tips and such.
Protostomping sucks and it still happens to me at times even with my 8 million some odd sp's. I have no idea what the matchmaking system uses to create a match but its crap.
Use starter fits or very cheap gear until you find a role that you like to play. Its simply not worth wasting your isk until you find what you like.
Just delete any hatemail you get. People that write that crap need to realize everyone doesn't just start playing this game and are instantly good at it.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
78
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Posted - 2013.10.18 01:02:00 -
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Budo Kai-san wrote:So I am a new player to Dust and here is my experience of my first week in Dust.
Day 1 : Joined the battle academy, first match scored enough war points and was kicked from the academy.
Day 1 (continued) : into the game, played about 20 games got proto stomped every game, then received mail, telling me how crap I am and should go back to the battle academy.
Day 2 : tried again, same as day 1, game now deleted.
Fake, you've played 2 days you are fully aware of battle academy mechanics the forums a.d the term proto stomp
Also if yoy clear the academy in one go your not gonna get proto stomped, but you wouldnt do good.
you'd be a decent player. .60 kd minimum
stop trolling |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
1187
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Posted - 2013.10.18 02:22:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:the only thing that doesnt make sense is that:
1 he is on the forums
2 he knows dust terms
3 he left the academy in one battle
4 no dust bunny ive seen is this good from scratch
My thoughts exacyl |
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