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Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 454	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:04:00 - [1] - Quote After playing with it for a while and even getting proficiency to lvl 4 ive come to the conclusion that the explosion is to small to reliably kill people unless your above them and their standing still. IMO the radius for std/adv/pro should be 1.5/1.75/2.0 After the damage nerf it would be fine to have a acctual explosion for the flaylock
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 561	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:05:00 - [2] - Quote Just got a proto flaylock few days ago and the splash damage i a have been getting is a bit disappoint. I would say it needs a small buff, maybe .25 or .5 Radius increase.
Badgerr Rager Black Phoenix Mercenaries 182	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:11:00 - [3] - Quote The flaylock is good to what it is now. Just shoot closer to their feet. They wont be rebuffing a weapon after nerfing it and making it a proper sidearm weapon.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4092	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:14:00 - [4] - Quote I think the FLP is good as it is. It's a sidearm. It's effective when you get people's shields down. I've had good results with the Core FLP in the past, when I need it in a pinch.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 454	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:16:00 - [5] - Quote Badgerr Rager wrote: The flaylock is good to what it is now. Just shoot closer to their feet. They wont be rebuffing a weapon after nerfing it and making it a proper sidearm weapon. If by shooting there feet you mean shooting there foot directly then yes thats what you have to do.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 1200	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:17:00 - [6] - Quote I didn't use it too much pre nerf, but I do now. Imo it didn't need a radius and dmg nerf. They should buff one or the other. .25 would be good.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 454	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:17:00 - [7] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: I think the FLP is good as it is. It's a sidearm. It's effective when you get people's shields down. I've had good results with the Core FLP in the past, when I need it in a pinch. But why would i use a flaylock when i could get MUCH better results from a scrambler pistol or a smg? It has worse dps, is harder to hit with, and has a small mag.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3957	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:19:00 - [8] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Badgerr Rager wrote: The flaylock is good to what it is now. Just shoot closer to their feet. They wont be rebuffing a weapon after nerfing it and making it a proper sidearm weapon. If by shooting there feet you mean shooting there foot directly then yes thats what you have to do. God forbid you should actually have to aim properly...
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 561	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:20:00 - [9] - Quote The only reason i use the flaylock is because of the low PG requirement, in my opinion it is no where near par with the scram pistol, to the point where i would pick a Adv scram pistol over my proto flaylock
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 255	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:22:00 - [10] - Quote Explosions are calculated in feet/diameter, not meters/radius like it says on the tip. Grenades are the only real exception I believe.

Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 454	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:22:00 - [11] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Badgerr Rager wrote: The flaylock is good to what it is now. Just shoot closer to their feet. They wont be rebuffing a weapon after nerfing it and making it a proper sidearm weapon. If by shooting there feet you mean shooting there foot directly then yes thats what you have to do. God forbid you should actually have to aim properly... I can aim my scrambler pistol to get head shots. If the whole point of the flaylock is to be a explosive weapon shouldnt it accually have a explosion to it? If were going for direct impacts the scrambler pistol is better
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire 432	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:24:00 - [12] - Quote try getting a direct hit and stop relying on splash damage to make up for your lack of skill
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 454	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:25:00 - [13] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: try getting a direct hit and stop relying on splash damage to make up for your lack of skill Or i could just use a scrambler pistol instead. Whats the point if your not using it for its splash damage?
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 613	Posted - 2013.10.17 06:27:00 - [14] - Quote It already got nerfed for being too much. Give me a better splash radius and damage for my large missile turret before adding any to a tiny pistol. I shouldn't have to aim right at someone to do any damage with huge freakin' volley of huge missiles.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 711	Posted - 2013.10.17 07:35:00 - [15] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: try getting a direct hit and stop relying on splash damage to make up for your lack of skill Or i could just use a scrambler pistol instead. Whats the point if your not using it for its splash damage? the point is, it is a sidearm with very low fitting requirements that you switch into when you are out of ammo, then you hit with it when the shields are down and your target dies due to lolexplo damage vs armor
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 672	Posted - 2013.10.17 07:37:00 - [16] - Quote The Flaylock more than deserved its nerf. It was getting waaay out of hand the damn thing was a complete n00b tube.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4092	Posted - 2013.10.17 08:05:00 - [17] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: I think the FLP is good as it is. It's a sidearm. It's effective when you get people's shields down. I've had good results with the Core FLP in the past, when I need it in a pinch. But why would i use a flaylock when i could get MUCH better results from a scrambler pistol or a smg? It has worse dps, is harder to hit with, and has a small mag. I used it on certain maps because my job was to hold a point, usually one with allot walls and **** around me. Hence the Core FLP was good in pinch in certain situations. My favorite sidearm is the SMG hands down.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1052	Posted - 2013.10.17 08:09:00 - [18] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: After playing with it for a while and even getting proficiency to lvl 4 ive come to the conclusion that the explosion is to small to reliably kill people unless your above them and their standing still. IMO the radius for std/adv/pro should be 1.5/1.75/2.0 After the damage nerf it would be fine to have a acctual explosion for the flaylock Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....................................... I'm not really infantry, but wasn't it nerfed because it became the flavor of the month?
Eversor Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 51	Posted - 2013.10.17 08:26:00 - [19] - Quote I've been using the advanced one with op lvl 4 for a week now and it's good as it is now. It has the ability to do great burst damage to armor, can damage vehicles and installations and is able to kill multiple mercs with a single shot (I've only gotten a few double kills so far). It also has a low fitting cost. If you need to use some skill to hit with it, I'd say it's pretty balanced. Try running a plasma cannon and then switch to flaylocks and you'll have no problem hitting your target often enough, even with the non-proto variants.
BrownEye1129 Death In Xcess Corporation 89	Posted - 2013.10.17 09:00:00 - [20] - Quote Aww how cute. These guys arrived late for the flaylock party and now they want an encore. Well the show is over. Flaylock has been balanced. Next time skill into an OP weapon b4 it gets nerfed.

Lorhak Gannarsein molon labe. RISE of LEGION 453	Posted - 2013.10.17 09:14:00 - [21] - Quote Aside from the ease of fitting it, what's the point of the FLP if there's no explosive radius? Why not use an SMG instead? You keep the bonus to armour, and hell, you can use the SMG as a primary... I know I do. M209 4 LYFE
m twiggz Hollowed Kings 96	Posted - 2013.10.17 09:21:00 - [22] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: After playing with it for a while and even getting proficiency to lvl 4 ive come to the conclusion that the explosion is to small to reliably kill people unless your above them and their standing still. IMO the radius for std/adv/pro should be 1.5/1.75/2.0 After the damage nerf it would be fine to have a acctual explosion for the flaylock Its a side arm weapon, use it as a side arm. Its not meant to kill people all by itself. Sidearms are 'back up' weapons, used if you run out of ammo or for different situations. Sick of people complaining that things are UP in this game when you're trying to use it for what its not intended for. Try using your primary weapon to weaken your opponent then pull out your Flaylock to finish the kill. I guarantee it will work just as its meant to. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I won't stand here and tell you you're wrong. I'll stand here and tell you that you're stupid and aren't using your weapons correctly. That sir, is a fact. PS; In all honesty continue running around with your Flaylock, or your scrambler pistols, or your sub machine guns as primary weapons. More kills for us more intelligent people. I'll take your QQ'ing on the forums for more kills on the battlefield any day.
BrownEye1129 Death In Xcess Corporation 89	Posted - 2013.10.17 09:24:00 - [23] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Aside from the ease of fitting it, what's the point of the FLP if there's no explosive radius? Why not use an SMG instead? You keep the bonus to armour, and hell, you can use the SMG as a primary... I know I do. M209 4 LYFE Nobody is forcing you to use the Flaylock over the SMG or Scram Pistol. Use those if you want. I know when I'm running AR for CQC and I turn the corner into 3+ reds thank goodness I have a flaylock equipped for that situation.
Denchlad 7 Heavy Reign inc. Freek Alliance 3	Posted - 2013.10.17 10:27:00 - [24] - Quote Generally speaking, a direct hit + one shot just off gives enough splash damage to kill most fits, aside from heavies that is. I would just improve your aim as I doubt they'll buff something that was nerfed. Oh, and the Core Flaylock is still pretty ridiculous if you can aim with it.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 454	Posted - 2013.10.17 17:06:00 - [25] - Quote I still think the blast radius is to small. The std one is worthless and not even worth using, adv is slightly better but still pretty useless, proto is semi usable. A slightly bigger blast wouldent make it OP, it was OP because of the damage.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1866	Posted - 2013.10.17 17:27:00 - [26] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: After playing with it for a while and even getting proficiency to lvl 4 ive come to the conclusion that the explosion is to small to reliably kill people unless your above them and their standing still. IMO the radius for std/adv/pro should be 1.5/1.75/2.0 After the damage nerf it would be fine to have a acctual explosion for the flaylock >>>WOW HE EVEN GOT PROF 4! <<< He must BE A PRO! Dude, aim to the KNEES and aim for a DIRECT shot. If you miss, splash will kick in. FL are good. Git gud with them Stop trying to use it as a mass driver.Its not. Its a PISTOL. End thread/
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 721	Posted - 2013.10.17 17:40:00 - [27] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: After playing with it for a while and even getting proficiency to lvl 4 ive come to the conclusion that the explosion is to small to reliably kill people unless your above them and their standing still. IMO the radius for std/adv/pro should be 1.5/1.75/2.0 After the damage nerf it would be fine to have a acctual explosion for the flaylock it's a pistol. you're not supposed to be firing it at their feet.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 454	Posted - 2013.10.17 17:56:00 - [28] - Quote Well you guys have convinced me, the flaylock is designed to be a bad weapon. Ive gone back to the burst scrambler pistol.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 431	Posted - 2013.10.17 18:13:00 - [29] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: After playing with it for a while and even getting proficiency to lvl 4 ive come to the conclusion that the explosion is to small to reliably kill people unless your above them and their standing still. IMO the radius for std/adv/pro should be 1.5/1.75/2.0 After the damage nerf it would be fine to have a acctual explosion for the flaylock stfu fool
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 454	Posted - 2013.10.17 18:16:00 - [30] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: Dexter307 wrote: After playing with it for a while and even getting proficiency to lvl 4 ive come to the conclusion that the explosion is to small to reliably kill people unless your above them and their standing still. IMO the radius for std/adv/pro should be 1.5/1.75/2.0 After the damage nerf it would be fine to have a acctual explosion for the flaylock stfu fool Read my last post



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