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HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
56
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:04:00 -
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Can we get a profit/losses tab or something following each battle? If we died 10 times, but got revived 4, and we spawned our cheap tank, and it survived, and we did very well and earned 315K ISK, did we turn a profit?
I think this would be easy to implement and it would be more gratifying than seeing a regular ISK/SP/KDR screen. |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
933
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:09:00 -
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I think a grid / statistics meter that goes up and down should do it forget what its called |
Anoko Destrolock
THE NUCLEAR KNIGHTS
10
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:13:00 -
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HyperionsThunder wrote:Can we get a profit/losses tab or something following each battle? If we died 10 times, but got revived 4, and we spawned our cheap tank, and it survived, and we did very well and earned 315K ISK, did we turn a profit?
I think this would be easy to implement and it would be more gratifying than seeing a regular ISK/SP/KDR screen.
Yeah, i want to see the isk loss of the idiots that die 10 times in proto in a pub match
and also the isk loss of tankers when they lose a tank so we can all sit and gasp at how expensive it is
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
387
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:14:00 -
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died 10 times? no you didn't profit...
but yes this feature would be nice. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
464
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:15:00 -
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HyperionsThunder wrote:Can we get a profit/losses tab or something following each battle? If we died 10 times, but got revived 4, and we spawned our cheap tank, and it survived, and we did very well and earned 315K ISK, did we turn a profit?
I think this would be easy to implement and it would be more gratifying than seeing a regular ISK/SP/KDR screen.
if ccp did this people would be leaving this game at twice the speed we already are our already diminishing playerbase would shriek and then shrink  |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
607
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Posted - 2013.10.16 09:02:00 -
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I like to look at the total for isk that I have at the top right of the market screen. That let's me know right there how I'm doing. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
473
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:13:00 -
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What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination  .
P.S. Just kidding, I never die
P.P.S. Just kidding, I die a LOT
In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground.
P.P.P.S. Just kidding, I know we are looking into this as well as other relevant stats.
For instance, one could think of fittings as investments into a stat. Do I want a high KDR, sure, but then I bring my best gear, or, I'm going for WP, what is my best WP/ISK fit, probably my uplink shotty Toxin scout, but then I am not improving my KDR as well.
So we want to do this right and allow players to make choices and have the relevant facts to gauge how they are progressing based on those choices. KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK
Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening 
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4075
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:17:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . P.S. Just kidding, I never die P.P.S. Just kidding, I die a LOT In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground. P.P.P.S. Just kidding, I know we are looking into this as well as other relevant stats. For instance, one could think of fittings as investments into a stat. Do I want a high KDR, sure, but then I bring my best gear, or, I'm going for WP, what is my best WP/ISK fit, probably my uplink shotty Toxin scout, but then I am not improving my KDR as well. So we want to do this right and allow players to make choices and have the relevant facts to gauge how they are progressing based on those choices. KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening
People want more stats in general dude. The more the better.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:19:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . P.S. Just kidding, I never die P.P.S. Just kidding, I die a LOT In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground. P.P.P.S. Just kidding, I know we are looking into this as well as other relevant stats. For instance, one could think of fittings as investments into a stat. Do I want a high KDR, sure, but then I bring my best gear, or, I'm going for WP, what is my best WP/ISK fit, probably my uplink shotty Toxin scout, but then I am not improving my KDR as well. So we want to do this right and allow players to make choices and have the relevant facts to gauge how they are progressing based on those choices. KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening
I think the ultimate would be a customisable stat page that you can edit in the settings somewhere, that way you can have any ratios or stats displayed that you want.... even those that don't make any sense like : number of times jumped in game / ISK earned...
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
322
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:20:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK
Is a good start.
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:People want more stats in general dude. The more the better.
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BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
84
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:27:00 -
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Uplink Spawns= So you know how many peple actually spawned from an uplink.
Scanning Assists= How many death were caused by a scan
Revive Count= How many clones you saved
Nano Hive Usage= How effient a nanohive wa
Just a few off the top of my head also a leaderboard tally of assists and headshots would be nice. |
Borne Velvalor
BLACK-DRAGON-SOCIETY
709
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:28:00 -
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HyperionsThunder wrote:Can we get a profit/losses tab or something following each battle? If we died 10 times, but got revived 4, and we spawned our cheap tank, and it survived, and we did very well and earned 315K ISK, did we turn a profit?
I think this would be easy to implement and it would be more gratifying than seeing a regular ISK/SP/KDR screen.
Multiply your suit cost by 6. That's how much you spent. Now do subtraction.  |
meri jin
Goonfeet
Top Men.
566
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:45:00 -
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spreadsheetporn please. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
3715
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . P.S. Just kidding, I never die P.P.S. Just kidding, I die a LOT In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground. P.P.P.S. Just kidding, I know we are looking into this as well as other relevant stats. For instance, one could think of fittings as investments into a stat. Do I want a high KDR, sure, but then I bring my best gear, or, I'm going for WP, what is my best WP/ISK fit, probably my uplink shotty Toxin scout, but then I am not improving my KDR as well. So we want to do this right and allow players to make choices and have the relevant facts to gauge how they are progressing based on those choices. KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening
Weren't you paying attention during CEOPyrex's video where he laid out more than once that anything over 10% means you're getting had? 
I'm using that emote because I assume you're referring to the shadowy C C P corporation. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
477
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:55:00 -
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Nah, my real character is in a real corp/alliance.... |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1483
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:04:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground.
This applies to me on the ground because I know that on average, no matter how badly I go in some games, the good games will eventually balance my losses out.
HOWEVER, this DEFINITELY does not apply to vehicles. Running dropships constantly is impractical, economically devastating and it brings tears to my eyes when I die and lose all that ISK and I call in another dropship, repeating a mantra: "Do it for the team.", but all the while, even with victory I am left feeling empty because what was I fighting for? Buried in the depths of my misery and the empty pockets once filled with ISK, I forget.
I've realised they will only release pilot suits when vehicles become reasonable to run almost full-time wthout needing to grind ISK on the ground, and I do not think this will come in the forseeable future.
In the meantime though I would love to know how much ISK I lost, just so I can divide it by my WP to get some kind of gauge on how ISK per WP in vehicles and ISK per WP as infantry. Would be much easier to provide feedback on balancing vehicle costs if we had those numbers. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2045
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:46:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:died 10 times? no you didn't profit...
but yes this feature would be nice.
Not necessarily true - BPO's my friend. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
2151
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:50:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening
WP/min and WP/D need I say more? |
Absolute Idiom II
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
810
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination .
15% eh? There are only 3 corps with 15% tax:
Hellstorm Inc
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Stand Alone Clones
http://www.dustcharts.com/#corporations |
Borne Velvalor
BLACK-DRAGON-SOCIETY
713
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:56:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . 15% eh? There are only 3 corps with 15% tax: Hellstorm Inc Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Stand Alone Clones http://www.dustcharts.com/#corporations
Mine has 15% I'll have you know. I never run negative ISK, so it doesn't really bother me. It used to be 25%. |
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
394
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Posted - 2013.10.16 13:18:00 -
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I'd like to see a dps stat and an alpha stat that adds in the bonuses from damage mods |
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
481
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Posted - 2013.10.16 13:39:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . 15% eh? There are only 3 corps with 15% tax: Hellstorm Inc Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Stand Alone Clones http://www.dustcharts.com/#corporations
I better watch what I say, I have bit my tongue on who I played with last night on more than one occasion. That being said, I thought it was 15%, it may be 20% |
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
114
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Posted - 2013.10.16 13:42:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . 15% eh? There are only 3 corps with 15% tax: Hellstorm Inc Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Stand Alone Clones http://www.dustcharts.com/#corporations I better watch what I say, I have bit my tongue on who I played with last night on more than one occasion. That being said, I thought it was 15%, it may be 20%
lol he's in denial now |
Absolute Idiom II
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
812
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Posted - 2013.10.16 13:44:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:Absolute Idiom II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . 15% eh? There are only 3 corps with 15% tax: Hellstorm Inc Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Stand Alone Clones http://www.dustcharts.com/#corporations Mine has 15% I'll have you know. I never run negative ISK, so it doesn't really bother me. It used to be 25%.
Ah yes, Dustcharts only examines Corps involved in PC... my bad. |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted
Top Men.
678
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Posted - 2013.10.16 13:54:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:Ah yes, Dustcharts only examines Corps involved in PC... my bad.
More specifically, corps successful in PC. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
855
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:12:00 -
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I think the OP asked for this to be added on the end battle screen (which is actually useful, +1), not to have more stats in general.
I totally disagree about having more stats in general, it's not a good thing! Stats kill fun.
More stats = more stat w*****.
More stat w**** = worse game experience.
KDR = THE ABSOLUTE EVIL (...and no, mine does not suck).
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
498
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:28:00 -
[27] - Quote
Just off the top of my head:
How about adding assists to the public post-game display? It would be helpful for us snipers to show we don't cherrypick kills.
A post-game list of who killed us, how many times, with what weapon and range would also be nice.
Munch |
OSGR Valdez
TeamPlayers
EoN.
44
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:37:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:Just off the top of my head:
How about adding assists to the public post-game display? It would be helpful for us snipers to show we don't cherrypick kills.
A post-game list of who killed us, how many times, with what weapon and range would also be nice.
Munch
Totally agree with you. Good snipers don't get very much recognition due to the statistics being wayy too simple.
The more stats the better! |
Cy Clone1
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
270
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:41:00 -
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HyperionsThunder wrote:Can we get a profit/losses tab or something following each battle? If we died 10 times, but got revived 4, and we spawned our cheap tank, and it survived, and we did very well and earned 315K ISK, did we turn a profit?
I think this would be easy to implement and it would be more gratifying than seeing a regular ISK/SP/KDR screen.
just look in your wallet after each game!! What you seek is already in your possession. |
ReGnYuM
Total Deprivation
1111
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:41:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . P.S. Just kidding, I never die P.P.S. Just kidding, I die a LOT In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground. P.P.P.S. Just kidding, I know we are looking into this as well as other relevant stats. For instance, one could think of fittings as investments into a stat. Do I want a high KDR, sure, but then I bring my best gear, or, I'm going for WP, what is my best WP/ISK fit, probably my uplink shotty Toxin scout, but then I am not improving my KDR as well. So we want to do this right and allow players to make choices and have the relevant facts to gauge how they are progressing based on those choices. KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening I like this guys attitude Do what it takes to win |
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
675
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:41:00 -
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We need a website to view all of our stats and leaderboards on for everything, kinda like what Battlefield 3 has. Total kills per weapon, leaderboards for each individual weapon (I'd love to know how close to the top I am in SMG kills lol), average life span, you can just jack that page full of stuff so we don't need most of it in-game. Then you can just put end-battle stuff in-game. =D |
NICK PETRONE
SUICIDAL ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.10.16 15:25:00 -
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I think it would be nice to have stats stet up on specific suit setups that we have. Like this suit had a KDR of this and This suit has a profit margin of this and this one you kill this many enemies on average per game... |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
325
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Posted - 2013.10.16 15:52:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:I think a grid / statistics meter that goes up and down should do it forget what its called
A graph? Lol? |
Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
122
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Posted - 2013.10.16 15:52:00 -
[34] - Quote
Isk destroyed vs Isk lost. I'm quite happy to blow a million isk on 10 protosuits if I destroyed 10 or more, bonus for tank kills...double bonus for a win (I can afford it). |
HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
71
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:07:00 -
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BrownEye1129 wrote:Uplink Spawns= So you know how many people actually spawned from an uplink.
Scanning Assists= How many death were caused by a scan
Revive Count= How many clones you saved
Nano Hive Usage= How efficient a nanohive was
Average Life Span= Time you was alive based on different suits.
Just a few off the top of my head also a leaderboard tally of assists and headshots would be nice.
Kills and death by a gun type. I jump between different suits depending on the situation and would like to know the kills from each suit.
I like some of these ideas, but I think they should either be clone specific (as in your character only) or team specific. The issue I can foresee are matches where one team gets stomped, but has a ridiculous number of logis making tons of WP, and then naturally the slayers are going to rage about the logis some more (poor logis <3).
I love the idea of a customized stat screen - that would be awesome. Then you can really focus on the stats you are interested in. Slayers could focus on accuracy, head shots, damage dealt, damage received. Logibros could focus on drop uplinks, nanohive usage, health restored, etc. The list goes on.
I think someone mentioned this above, but I'd like to reiterate. I'd love to see individual profits/losses like you can see kills/deaths, and also see team stats. It'd be nice to know that a proto stomping team still came out negative on the ISK front. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2047
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:08:00 -
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I'd love to have a list after each match showing how many times each red dot killed me, and how many times I killed each red dot. I just don't pay attention when I kill who it was, or when I was killed I don't pay attention to who killed me. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
530
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:24:00 -
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NICK PETRONE wrote:I think it would be nice to have stats stet up on specific suit setups that we have. Like this suit had a KDR of this and This suit has a profit margin of this and this one you kill this many enemies on average per game...
I was just thinking the same thing ... have a new panel in the fitting screen showing what your average KDR or WP/match for the selected fitting ... or whatever other stats people are coming up with in this thread. You'd have to wipe it when you made alterations.
OR MAYBE ... it would be cool if it could remember your previous used version of a fitting ... you could make changes to it, use it in battle and the stats panel would compare your alterations to how it used to perform ... and you could have the option to revert your changes back to the previous 'better' fitting at the click of a button. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
704
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:31:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK Is a good start. Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:People want more stats in general dude. The more the better.
this. I want to see every bullet fired and how many of them hit.
and I want to see it for everyone.
weapon specific. track what a player uses most. weekly stats, monthly stats, yearly stats, lifetime. |
calvin b
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
716
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:37:00 -
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WP, Kills, and ISK is the best way to gauge how good a player is. KD/R i do not like because it hinders my play sometimes, because I want a 2.0 KDR. I am at 1.9 and with over 18K kills, its hard to make it to 2.0 when you have over 11k deaths. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
704
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:39:00 -
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calvin b wrote:WP, Kills, and ISK is the best way to gauge how good a player is. KD/R i do not like because it hinders my play sometimes, because I want a 2.0 KDR. I am at 1.9 and with over 18K kills, its hard to make it to 2.0 when you have over 11k deaths.
sounds like you just need 4000... |
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
1507
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Posted - 2013.10.16 20:44:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . 15% eh? There are only 3 corps with 15% tax: Hellstorm Inc Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Stand Alone Clones http://www.dustcharts.com/#corporations
Ancient Exiles 0%Tax
But then we are switching to a new health plan titled DjinnCare
Ancient Exiles 99% Tax
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
771
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Posted - 2013.10.16 20:52:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . P.S. Just kidding, I never die P.P.S. Just kidding, I die a LOT In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground. P.P.P.S. Just kidding, I know we are looking into this as well as other relevant stats. For instance, one could think of fittings as investments into a stat. Do I want a high KDR, sure, but then I bring my best gear, or, I'm going for WP, what is my best WP/ISK fit, probably my uplink shotty Toxin scout, but then I am not improving my KDR as well. So we want to do this right and allow players to make choices and have the relevant facts to gauge how they are progressing based on those choices. KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening
As someone who loves following baseball stats, I greatly approve of this. |
Mia Romani
Nexus Marines
7
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Posted - 2013.10.29 11:29:00 -
[43] - Quote
Sorry for the semi-necro, but I only just came across this thread.
On the topic of how to do this, I suggest:
Move the Salvage panel over to the right, and add a similar Item loss panel on the left.
The panels for Items Destroyed and Items Salvaged would share a very similar look & feel, and both would display a total estimated ISK value underneath the list of items.
That way there would be no confusion that the items destroyed has directly affected your wallet, and it would clearly communicate that what items the player lost and picked up during the battle. |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
677
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Posted - 2013.10.29 11:39:00 -
[44] - Quote
It would be awesome to show how much isk you "stole". Say you kill one guy in a match and at the end it will show how much that fitting cost him. So you can be like " I stole 200k isk from the enemy team"
Also it would be nice to know who exactly did you kill. |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
352
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Posted - 2013.10.29 11:46:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . P.S. Just kidding, I never die P.P.S. Just kidding, I die a LOT In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground. P.P.P.S. Just kidding, I know we are looking into this as well as other relevant stats. For instance, one could think of fittings as investments into a stat. Do I want a high KDR, sure, but then I bring my best gear, or, I'm going for WP, what is my best WP/ISK fit, probably my uplink shotty Toxin scout, but then I am not improving my KDR as well. So we want to do this right and allow players to make choices and have the relevant facts to gauge how they are progressing based on those choices. KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening
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HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
92
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:01:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:What about us poor souls that proto and still go 10/10 and get 200k rewards and pay our corp 15% bloodmoney on top , I don't want to know I lost 2 million on one domination . P.S. Just kidding, I never die P.P.S. Just kidding, I die a LOT In the end I don't care, as long as I have ISK I will spend it to get as many WP as I can while not running my KDR into the ground. P.P.P.S. Just kidding, I know we are looking into this as well as other relevant stats. For instance, one could think of fittings as investments into a stat. Do I want a high KDR, sure, but then I bring my best gear, or, I'm going for WP, what is my best WP/ISK fit, probably my uplink shotty Toxin scout, but then I am not improving my KDR as well. So we want to do this right and allow players to make choices and have the relevant facts to gauge how they are progressing based on those choices. KDR/ISK, WP/ISK, ISK/ISK, W/ISK Go on, share your thoughts, I am listening If I am investing Prototype equipment to fulfill a contract I expect my employer to be prepared to compensate that effort. Many corps reimburse their members for equipment losses in defense / assault of districts.
I think this idea is pretty interesting, but would have a significant effect on the total payout of a contract. For example, if you are hired with a cost-of-gear reimbursement, you shouldn't be making a large amount of ISK on the contract (maybe an option for Eve players hiring mercs). I could see this kind of clause being added for nullsec contracts, in which proto gear is absolutely necessary.
I also like the above post which shows items destroyed vs. salvaged. On the items destroyed side, one could even imagine splitting that into two sections: my items destroyed and enemy items destroyed. That might give a clear picture of what gear the enemy team has lost, and its ISK value.
I wonder if CCP intends to ever stagger WP by ISK value. It is a lot harder to kill a 2 million ISK tank than it is to kill a starter fitted tank - but they both earn the same WP. Additionally, killing a protobear (running full proto gear, not just someone with a duvolle), is a lot harder than killing a militia blueberry. Both +50 WP
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