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Awesome Pantaloons
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
101
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:17:00 -
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First of all, if people were complaining about it taking too long to get into a battle, this was not the solution. Patience is a virtue you bastards. I miss the warbarge. I miss staring at the meaningless glowing map and the RDVs who will inevitably fail me... I miss hearing about the progress being made on that tram system and the reminders about suicide in public areas. What I miss the most, however, is the ability to see who the flying duck I am up against. It's nice to know if I should prepare myself to take a rough beating in my posterior or if I'll be doing the beating. I just got out of a match in which a six man team lost to a four man team. My theory is that we did horribly against four people because we were unaware of the odds. Either that or the more likely theory that the four blues just really really sucked. I knew the enemies and had an idea of their skill level. We should have at least done a decent job. (One of the blues actually did very well, he deserves a medal.) Anyway, all that aside, I really miss the warbarge. Bring it back! Maybe with some new content and something useful besides seeing our odds. It helps to be mentally psyched for certain matches. |
Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
277
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:19:00 -
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heck i miss it because that was when i used to use the bathroom. |
Virtual Riot
The Vanguardians
51
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:20:00 -
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The war room sill exists. Its just that the new matchmaking puts you more frequently in already started or about to start matches. I was in the barge the other day during a FW. Its not gone. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
516
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:27:00 -
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In damn near every FW match i play i warbarge. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
596
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:40:00 -
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I miss seeing the Warbarge during PUB matches. Without that, I can't show off my fancy Proto suit unless it's FW or PC :( |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1481
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:43:00 -
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...And seeing that proud Caldari flag. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2095
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:45:00 -
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Its still there, the game loads you to the war barge right before the battle starts and then loads you into battle If you are lucky or whatever sometimes youll see it flash on your screen for half a second |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
96
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Posted - 2013.10.13 06:40:00 -
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gone for pub matches for good with new match making system. faction warfare doesn't have match making, so you still go into the warbage for ~1min |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
306
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:25:00 -
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I miss the WB too, its like a whole chunk of content is missing or I briefly see every now and then.
WB antics were great, and yes I want to see the opposing side! |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2722
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:28:00 -
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We shortened the warbarge waiting time in pub matches to almost 0 so people spend more time in battle.
We have another round of matchmaking changes coming up, and a big update to FW so we might bring it back specifically for FW to give people a bit of time to organise the team. |
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Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
88
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:32:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:We shortened the warbarge waiting time in pub matches to almost 0 so people spend more time in battle.
We have another round of matchmaking changes coming up, and a big update to FW so we might bring it back specifically for FW to give people a bit of time to organise the team. They done did it, they nerfed the war barge all hope is lost. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1483
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:32:00 -
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Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2723
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened...
This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". |
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RKKR
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
424
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:35:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:We shortened the warbarge waiting time in pub matches to almost 0 so people spend more time in battle.
We have another round of matchmaking changes coming up, and a big update to FW so we might bring it back specifically for FW to give people a bit of time to organise the team.
for me it's like this:
Loading screen Warbage flashes up for 0.5 seconds (the warbage-timer says something like 7sec) Screen fades and goes to the battle-overview map.
Nothing serious, but kind of useless if my PS3 can't keep up with the shoooort warbage times to load it. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
306
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:38:00 -
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Many people I talk to would like to have the choice of being in the WB (or similar) instead of their MQ's, or at least have a choice. Is this something that is being looked at?
Squads for pub matches are formed in the WB and the player roster loads quicker too. |
Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
88
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:41:00 -
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Dev 514 soon TM |
omega 015
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:41:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened...
I miss suiciding in public areas in the beta, I felt like such a rebel. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1483
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:42:00 -
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RKKR wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:We shortened the warbarge waiting time in pub matches to almost 0 so people spend more time in battle.
We have another round of matchmaking changes coming up, and a big update to FW so we might bring it back specifically for FW to give people a bit of time to organise the team. for me it's like this: Loading screen Warbage flashes up for 0.5 seconds (the warbage-timer says something like 7sec) Screen fades and goes to the battle-overview map. Nothing serious, but kind of useless if my PS3 can't keep up with the shoooort warbage times to load it.
lol first time it did that I thought I somehow suicide on the battlefield cause I saw my shield/armor flash to nothing... |
Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
88
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:44:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". I would like to go outside and take a dump on people's yards but I restrain myself from doing whatever I want maybe you should to. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1439
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:50:00 -
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"The heart's memory eliminates the bad and magnifies the good..."
...and just like we miss Chromosome, and just like how many who played last year will never forget Skirmish 1.0, here we have another example of the debilitating effects of nostalgia.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the current game is good, but we're just clouded by past memories that seemed like better days, but in actuality were never as good as what we have now. |
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
91
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:50:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote: We have another round of matchmaking changes coming up, and a big update to FW so we might bring it back specifically for FW to give people a bit of time to organise the team.
Make the table useful at least by showing the actual map we'll be playing on if you're bringing it back (and yes, I also miss the time when the minimap was an actual map and not a set of markers) |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1141
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Posted - 2013.10.13 08:55:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". I would rather wait 30-60 seconds to ensure that the matches are always filled, or at least close to filled when they start. |
Thurak1
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
278
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Posted - 2013.10.13 09:19:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:"The heart's memory eliminates the bad and magnifies the good..."
...and just like we miss Chromosome, and just like how many who played last year will never forget Skirmish 1.0, here we have another example of the debilitating effects of nostalgia.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the current game is good, but we're just clouded by past memories that seemed like better days, but in actuality were never as good as what we have now. Na in open beta when i started playing being a heavy was being a real integral part of the team. You were called upon to clear a path to a objective. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
54
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:11:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now".
can i use you as target practice for my tank while we wait in the warbarge? |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
314
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:13:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". Yeees. but wasn't that because we couldn't strategize before the match cus the friggin map table wasn't on!! |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
112
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:27:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". This is idiotic, it just means games launch with unbalanced teams (4 versus 9, etc), which become more unbalanced as players on the minority team leave the battle. I also like to see who I'm playing with and against; when you're launched straight into the game, this is impossible (unless you're willing to waste valuable time at the start of the battle). So the social dimension of the game is undermined. For the love of God, bring back the 60-90 sec war barge. |
Ruic DeSteoi
ZionTCO
0
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:48:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Yeees. but wasn't that because we couldn't strategize before the match cus the friggin map table wasn't on!! Yea the WB timer was fine as it was before, honestly if the war table isnt even capable of being used for strategic planning as it is intended, i suppose unbalanced teams is the least of our worries as the game goes from being more focused on strategy to being focused on "I R NEED KILL NAO" mentality of rapid spawn/death of COD. Give me tiered strategic (Very marginal)buffs per command level for those in proximity to Squad Lead, Specialist, Field Command similar to MAG command bonus that added things like a very slight explosive resistance, heightened hearing, etc. when in close proximity to leaders.
Or we can just be realistic and say hey can we get the strategic table that is advertised as being a tool to plan things out in the warbarge to actually work, maybe some moveable icons for SLs and such, think that'd be spiffy :) |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5929
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:53:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:"The heart's memory eliminates the bad and magnifies the good..."
...and just like we miss Chromosome, and just like how many who played last year will never forget Skirmish 1.0, here we have another example of the debilitating effects of nostalgia.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the current game is good, but we're just clouded by past memories that seemed like better days, but in actuality were never as good as what we have now. Na in open beta when i started playing being a heavy was being a real integral part of the team. You were called upon to clear a path to a objective. If you had a logi with a core focused repper, you were damn near invulnerable ...until you had to reload. Also back then, nobody complained aboutl logis killing.
...I miss those days... |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1605
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:02:00 -
[29] - Quote
Rogue Saint wrote:Many people I talk to would like to have the choice of being in the WB (or similar) instead of their MQ's, or at least have a choice. Is this something that is being looked at?
Squads for pub matches are formed in the WB and the player roster loads quicker too.
Games are a lot more fun if you can give people choices... instead of making arbitrary changes to their gameplay all the time. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
657
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:34:00 -
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I miss the war barge because it allows me to see who's on my team.....don't make the time 0 but maybe just like 30 seconds instead of 1 minute and 15 seconds |
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:50:00 -
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Sadly enough being in the warbarge was the only MMO feel this game had so since CCP Devs didn't like sitting in the warbarge for1:30 they wanted to remove it to make Dust that much more of a lobby shooter.... Makes sense to me... ..
Glad to know CCP are the only ones playing and supporting this game.... |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
197
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:20:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the g,ame and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now".
If we could see the map we are playing, on that massive Map table that takes so much real estate in the war barge.. Almost all the time any squad or team spend's in there could be valuable with that alone.
Specially for PC's... Guessing what map it is.. can be tedious. Right now the active PC player is a football team player having to memorize the entire playbook of strategies... instead of just one for the map we are playing...
The classic gathering around the map table in the war room, Epic. |
S Park Finner
DUST University Ivy League
333
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:34:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:We shortened the warbarge waiting time in pub matches to almost 0 so people spend more time in battle.
We have another round of matchmaking changes coming up, and a big update to FW so we might bring it back specifically for FW to give people a bit of time to organise the team. As a compromise I'd suggest the time in the war barge should be long enough for players to do two things: 1 - Scroll through the enemy players to see who is on the team 2 - Bring up and review team chat so you can jump into a squad before deploying to the planet. My guess at the time 10 seconds -- load the team chat to view the squads forming up 20 seconds -- pick a squad 10 seconds -- review the other team 40 seconds total
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
1261
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Posted - 2013.10.13 14:05:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the g,ame and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". If we could see the map we are playing, on that massive Map table that takes so much real estate in the war barge.. Almost all the time any squad or team spend's in there could be valuable with that alone. Specially for PC's... Guessing what map it is.. can be tedious. Right now the active PC player is a football team player having to memorize the entire playbook of strategies... instead of just one for the map we are playing... The classic gathering around the map table in the war room, Epic. This. So much this. Make the map table show the map we are going into and give us some time to plan. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2013.10.13 14:20:00 -
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S Park Finner wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:We shortened the warbarge waiting time in pub matches to almost 0 so people spend more time in battle.
We have another round of matchmaking changes coming up, and a big update to FW so we might bring it back specifically for FW to give people a bit of time to organise the team. As a compromise I'd suggest the time in the war barge should be long enough for players to do two things: 1 - Scroll through the enemy players to see who is on the team 2 - Bring up and review team chat so you can jump into a squad before deploying to the planet. My guess at the time 10 seconds -- load the team chat to view the squads forming up 20 seconds -- pick a squad 10 seconds -- review the other team 40 seconds total
The problem is not everyone joins at once, Scotty is completely worthless so you may join at 40 seconds and I may join at 5 seconds long enough for me to see my suit load in and flash to yet another loading screen.. |
S Park Finner
DUST University Ivy League
333
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Posted - 2013.10.13 15:16:00 -
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M McManus wrote:...
The problem is not everyone joins at once, Scotty is completely worthless so you may join at 40 seconds and I may join at 5 seconds long enough for me to see my suit load in and flash to yet another loading screen.. I agree that's the way it looks in some match types. And I'm really only talking about pub matches. In those the majority of players seem to enter at 15 or 7 seconds -- suggesting that the players may be being assembled "off screen" and then dropped in all at once. It's that "dropped in all at once" time I was thinking could be adjusted.
If it doesn't happen that way -- say you get dropped on the planet as soon as both sides have at least 4 players -- then you are absolutely right. What I was suggesting would not work.
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1825
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Posted - 2013.10.13 15:16:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now".
Stop being terrible game designers
70% of the timer we don't even see the war barge anymore, you just don't want us to notice when you pull the whole room out and cause a huge "unexpected" backlash wasting our time and yours.
If you want it to be shoter just have NO TIMER until the room is full, then have a 30 second timer once both sides are full
Oh wait that's actually exactly how you used to do it. Until chromosome when you changed it so it took 3 plus minutes of waiting in the war barge. Oh great fix guys. So now you go full tilt the other direction and we barely have the warbarge!
Will you guys stop breaking stuff that used to work and then forgetting it wasn't always broken, so you don't break it even more? please? Is that too much to ask? |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1825
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Posted - 2013.10.13 15:33:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". can i use you as target practice for my tank while we wait in the warbarge?
True we play a lobby shooter that never has both teams full when the match starts. Why? it wasn't always that way! CCP WHY!!!!
Seriously has anyone had a public match start with both sides full? I haven't. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1143
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Posted - 2013.10.13 15:58:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:We shortened the warbarge waiting time in pub matches to almost 0 so people spend more time in battle.
We have another round of matchmaking changes coming up, and a big update to FW so we might bring it back specifically for FW to give people a bit of time to organise the team. B-b-but matchmaking changes!!?!?!???
Of what kinda may I ask? |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1143
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Posted - 2013.10.13 16:00:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". can i use you as target practice for my tank while we wait in the warbarge? True we play a lobby shooter that never has both teams full when the match starts. Why? it wasn't always that way! CCP WHY!!!! Seriously has anyone had a public match start with both sides full? I haven't. Raises hand.
I've only had one unbalanced match player count wise. |
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itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX. Top Men.
321
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Posted - 2013.10.13 16:09:00 -
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The thing is though a lot of players like checking the list to see if its worth taking dropship out, and persnolly imbunhappy that I can't rub butts with anyone anymore. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2736
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Posted - 2013.10.13 16:37:00 -
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Fair enough, some people like the warbarge for checking out the other team and that makes sense. I'll bring it up for discussion again, maybe there is a middle ground on the timing that works well for this.
It is not supposed to be a buffer while we fill up the match though, that should happen for the most part before you enter the warbarge. We obviously still have work to do on that front, but I'll have a chat to Scotty on our next update to see if he can do a better job of that. |
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Orca Amsel
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
502
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:39:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now".
So you would prefer sitting in your MQ with the "Waiting for deployment" message for a minute instead of sitting in the warbarge for a minute? Also reducing the warbarge time for FW makes it harder to get a pilot in orbit. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2744
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:40:00 -
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Orca Amsel wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". So you would prefer sitting in your MQ with the "Waiting for deployment" message for a minute instead of sitting in the warbarge for a minute? Also reducing the warbarge time for FW makes it harder to get a pilot in orbit.
Yes actually we would, there is a subtle difference in that we can consider you for multiple different battles during the time in the MQ but once you are in the warbarge you are committed to that battle even if a better option opens up while you are waiting.
Good point about FW orbitals though. |
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OgTheEnigma
The Rainbow Effect
166
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:49:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Fair enough, some people like the warbarge for checking out the other team and that makes sense. I'll bring it up for discussion again, maybe there is a middle ground on the timing that works well for this.
It is not supposed to be a buffer while we fill up the match though, that should happen for the most part before you enter the warbarge. We obviously still have work to do on that front, but I'll have a chat to Scotty on our next update to see if he can do a better job of that. The warbarge wait doesn't have to be as long as before, but something like an average of 30 seconds would be a good compromise. This isn't too long to wait and gives us enough time to size up the teams before battle. |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX. Top Men.
321
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:50:00 -
[46] - Quote
I was wondering if people were also going to eventually get the map in the warbarge. For pc it would be great and easier to plan out strategys with everyone pulling up their maps in the warbarge and squad leads planning everything there. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4475
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:53:00 -
[47] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:...and a big update to FW...
Oh? Mind telling us something about it? |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1825
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Posted - 2013.10.13 18:01:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Fair enough, some people like the warbarge for checking out the other team and that makes sense. I'll bring it up for discussion again, maybe there is a middle ground on the timing that works well for this.
It is not supposed to be a buffer while we fill up the match though, that should happen for the most part before you enter the warbarge. We obviously still have work to do on that front, but I'll have a chat to Scotty on our next update to see if he can do a better job of that.
what? why not? Since when?
I know for a fact this is how it used to work. Is this because of the new battlefinder with the map scanner? If you just want to drop us into a match I agree with other people what's the point of the warbarge?
Here's an idea...
Remove the Warbarge from public matches all together. Think about it, you're sitting in your Quarters, you can refit and buy stuff right there. The new squad finder replaces the warbarge as a lobby to pick people up.
Factional Warfare and Planetary conquest on the other hand should use the Warbarge all the time. If it's possibe it's be neat if we could stay in the Warbarge even after battle in FW and PC. Build the UI for finding battles right into the Warbarge and let us have a social space we can stand around in with our corp mates while waiting for the matches to fill up. Also the map is more important in the Warbarge. Since in PC we'll be fighting over installations there for the map will be perfect for discussing tactics before we all get dropped into the match.
But please, please don't make the Warbarge timer so short no one barely notices it anymore. I mean if it's going to be barely 10 seconds of the warbarge why have it at all?
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Yes actually we would, there is a subtle difference in that we can consider you for multiple different battles during the time in the MQ but once you are in the warbarge you are committed to that battle even if a better option opens up while you are waiting.
Good point about FW orbitals though.
AH HA! so it is the new battle finder that changed the warbarge. Awesome. Please then just consider removing the warbarge from public matches alltogether.
Please improve the usability of the Warbarge for FW and PC. |
Orca Amsel
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
502
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Posted - 2013.10.13 18:10:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Orca Amsel wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". So you would prefer sitting in your MQ with the "Waiting for deployment" message for a minute instead of sitting in the warbarge for a minute? Also reducing the warbarge time for FW makes it harder to get a pilot in orbit. Yes actually we would, there is a subtle difference in that we can consider you for multiple different battles during the time in the MQ but once you are in the warbarge you are committed to that battle even if a better option opens up while you are waiting. Good point about FW orbitals though.
Interesting, it changing which battle I will be deploying to for pub matches is not something that I have not noticed. |
Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
443
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Posted - 2013.10.13 19:10:00 -
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I always did find it strange that we're always on the Warbage but it's the MCC we actually jump out of once we get into the battle, so the pre-game lobby, is it the Warbage? or is it the MCC which happens to be inside the Warbage at the time? Where do MCCs come from? |
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Dirks Macker
Enlightened Infantries
79
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:38:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote: This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now".
There are times when I spend well over a minute in the planet screen, then half a second in the warbarge before going into battle.
Wouldn't it make more sense to go to the warbarge after a finite time in the planet screen? I was thinking around 10-20 seconds so you see where you are fighting, who you are fighting for, then off to the barge to bump your frontside to backsides while giggling like a schoolgirl. |
Awesome Pantaloons
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
118
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:38:00 -
[52] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now".
Nullarbor, that has got to be the single worst response from a dev I have ever seen. lol "Yeah, we didn't like it so... Goodbye WB! :D" And seriously, the WB is just as important in pub matches as it is in FW. I'm glad it's there for FW (Minmatar scum need to know how hard they're about to get beat with a stick of pure oppression) don't get me wrong, it's just that the WB in pubs were nice too.
Remember, you're making this game for the consumers, not yourselves. :P |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2940
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:40:00 -
[53] - Quote
Where the hell is my Amarrian Warbarge?
Can't we just reskin the Gallentean one Gold so I can feel like the Amarr have a place in this game. |
Awesome Pantaloons
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
118
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:43:00 -
[54] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Where the hell is my Amarrian Warbarge?
Can't we just reskin the Gallentean one Gold so I can feel like the Amarr have a place in this game.
Amen. We need WBs and vehicles. I want ivory, gold-trimmed LAVs. While you're at it, add Minmatar dumpsters-on-wheels so I can disgrace them. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2940
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:50:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:True Adamance wrote:Where the hell is my Amarrian Warbarge?
Can't we just reskin the Gallentean one Gold so I can feel like the Amarr have a place in this game. Amen. We need WBs and vehicles. I want ivory, gold-trimmed LAVs. While you're at it, add Minmatar dumpsters-on-wheels so I can disgrace them. My thoughts exactly. I want to show the Minmatar that while they may be very good with developing technology, Duct tape is not substitute for Faith. |
Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
99
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Posted - 2013.10.14 00:19:00 -
[56] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Fair enough, some people like the warbarge for checking out the other team and that makes sense. I'll bring it up for discussion again, maybe there is a middle ground on the timing that works well for this.
It is not supposed to be a buffer while we fill up the match though, that should happen for the most part before you enter the warbarge. We obviously still have work to do on that front, but I'll have a chat to Scotty on our next update to see if he can do a better job of that. You messed up again... No shocker there. |
negative49er
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
261
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Posted - 2013.10.14 00:42:00 -
[57] - Quote
Awesome Pantaloons wrote:True Adamance wrote:Where the hell is my Amarrian Warbarge?
Can't we just reskin the Gallentean one Gold so I can feel like the Amarr have a place in this game. Amen. We need WBs and vehicles. I want ivory, gold-trimmed LAVs. While you're at it, add Minmatar dumpsters-on-wheels so I can disgrace them.
Don't be complaining your the only race with a heavy |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2943
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Posted - 2013.10.14 00:47:00 -
[58] - Quote
negative49er wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:True Adamance wrote:Where the hell is my Amarrian Warbarge?
Can't we just reskin the Gallentean one Gold so I can feel like the Amarr have a place in this game. Amen. We need WBs and vehicles. I want ivory, gold-trimmed LAVs. While you're at it, add Minmatar dumpsters-on-wheels so I can disgrace them. Don't be complaining your the only race with a heavy We also don't have vehicles or scouts, the only two Amarrian roles I want to play. |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
265
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Posted - 2013.10.14 01:10:00 -
[59] - Quote
I really just wanna know when, and what side gets to fly a warbarge. |
Ghural
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
151
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:13:00 -
[60] - Quote
If the holographic map on the warbarge actually represented the battlefield I wouldn't mind a minute to talk about tactics with the team/squad. |
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
580
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Posted - 2013.10.14 04:37:00 -
[61] - Quote
I don't miss it at all. It was just dumb. A place to sit around waiting for 2 min for no good reason. It always felt that it was meant to have more features that ended up being cut. |
DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
94
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Posted - 2013.10.14 06:29:00 -
[62] - Quote
Doyle Reese wrote:I always did find it strange that we're always on the Warbage but it's the MCC we actually jump out of once we get into the battle, so the pre-game lobby, is it the Warbage? or is it the MCC which happens to be inside the Warbage at the time? Where do MCCs come from? Both MCC-s deploy from warbarges around the planet. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1018
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Posted - 2013.10.14 06:35:00 -
[63] - Quote
Plus it gave you an opportunity to see if you were up against randoms, or two 6-man squads. Now we're thrown directly to the spawn screen with no way to size up the opposition. |
fawkuima juggalo
Hollowed Kings
77
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Posted - 2013.10.14 08:30:00 -
[64] - Quote
+1 !!! yes loved it and yes add some features for us we love the one two step and all but.... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109394 |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2013.10.14 09:18:00 -
[65] - Quote
Dear CCP
When joining Public contracts, (you know, the ones New players join.) the War Barge looks like CRAP it just blinks in and out then into the match.
Your game looks bad, bring it back or get rid of it entirely.
Put your ice cream down and do something.
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Absolute Idiom II
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
795
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Posted - 2013.10.14 11:34:00 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Orca Amsel wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yea, folks were saying that they were spending too much time in Warbarge.
It just goes to show you that while some feel CCP aren't listening, our words have a definite affect on the game.
I do miss her telling us "Suicide is restricted in public areas..."
Maybe when they bring it back, the tram system will finally be opened... This was also just a case of ourselves playing the game and thinking "we sure do spend a lot of time waiting around before battle, I'd rather be shooting in face right now". So you would prefer sitting in your MQ with the "Waiting for deployment" message for a minute instead of sitting in the warbarge for a minute? Also reducing the warbarge time for FW makes it harder to get a pilot in orbit. Yes actually we would, there is a subtle difference in that we can consider you for multiple different battles during the time in the MQ but once you are in the warbarge you are committed to that battle even if a better option opens up while you are waiting. Good point about FW orbitals though.
Actually, there is an issue with FW and orbitals in this regard. The Squad Leader can see the target district when in MQ waiting for deployment to battle - but once in the Warbarge there is no indication of the district. We have to wait until the battle starts to be able to inform the pilot. |
Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
106
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Posted - 2013.10.14 22:08:00 -
[67] - Quote
Ghural wrote:If the holographic map on the warbarge actually represented the battlefield I wouldn't mind a minute to talk about tactics with the team/squad. I would be able to plan out what proto scrub gear to run in the match. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
116
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Posted - 2013.10.14 22:10:00 -
[68] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:...And seeing that proud Caldari flag. >removes his cap >sobs patriotically |
da GAND
High-Damage Public Disorder.
274
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:15:00 -
[69] - Quote
What are u gonna do in the warbarge? walk around and look at the teams for 3 minutes? I don't see why anyone would miss that. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1838
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:17:00 -
[70] - Quote
Levithunder wrote:Ghural wrote:If the holographic map on the warbarge actually represented the battlefield I wouldn't mind a minute to talk about tactics with the team/squad. I would be able to plan out what proto scrub gear to run in the match. we could tell what district we are about to attack as well... wouldn't that be helpful... |
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