Only pussies hide behind turret, just sayin

The beginnings of matches seem to be a massive scramble for who can destroy the most neutral installations. I see heavies driving around with AFGs, blowing turrets up just for the sake of points.

This isn't strategic at all, people are ruining the potential defences of their own team just for the sake of attaining 50 extra war points.

CCP, please remove points for destroying neutral installations.

Isn't strategic at all?

If I blow up those neutral installations before the enemy can take control of them, the tankers on my side don't need to worry about randomly getting hit by railguns from across the map. I don't have to worry about being blown up by a blaster turret in my LAV, and the enemy is DENIED potential wp that I now have earned for my squad to use. Not to mention dropships are so much easier to fly when you're not getting shot at as you're trying to land.

By detroying all of the possible turrets... on some maps you can advance your wp gain by 1000 or more, especially if you go and get the ones on the enemy side too. This means that your squad has access to an early orbital that can be essential for defending and countering a redlining team.

Besides, you should know that turrets don't even work half the time. Blaster turrets actually hit to the side of you instead of hitting you (unless you get super close), and all types of turrets are super weak and easy to destroy. Don't even get me started about how destroying one gives you more than a supply depot or CRU (makes no sense seeing how much harder the latter are to destroy). Oh, and there's that turret that's underground on some maps...

These things need to be addressed first, as hacking turrets for defense isn't worth it when they can be easily hacked to the opposing side...and when they don't even work properly.

The beginnings of matches seem to be a massive scramble for who can destroy the most neutral installations. I see heavies driving around with AFGs, blowing turrets up just for the sake of points.

This isn't strategic at all, people are ruining the potential defences of their own team just for the sake of attaining 50 extra war points.

CCP, please remove points for destroying neutral installations.


edit - for those who are unable to assume that I have some moderate sense of reason, I am talking about destroying turrets on our side of the map. Sure, go blow up their neutral turrets or ones in the middle which are going to be taken over, but people seem to feel the need to remove our defences. I cannot wait until we get to call in installations and people on our own team will just destroy them for WP..

War Points or not I am still blowing them up to peices.

Especially if you cannot prove as a blueberry the ability to maintain control of said structure.

If my team can't use it, nobody can.

Who the f*ck cares, quit asking CCP to nurf the game for you!!! Or better yet you could just quit playing!!!

Turrets are a liability, they can be hacked in seconds and provide denial or support be it infantry lavs or derpships, I will
Absolutely destroy them before mine or the reds can take them and use them against us.

Also a blue turret just feeds the other team WP be it through hack or destruction.

You don't know what you are talking about OP.

I wish you could damage friendly turrets (can you in PC?) to be honest, they're a liability to any vehicle user, and driving my tank around has quickly taught me to destroy turrets on sight.

Take my WP away, those turrets are still going to die.

Also, eliminating turrets from our redline helps keep idiot blueberries from sitting their shooting at the MCC the entire match

I wish you could damage friendly turrets (can you in PC?) to be honest, they're a liability to any vehicle user, and driving my tank around has quickly taught me to destroy turrets on sight.

Take my WP away, those turrets are still going to die.

Also, eliminating turrets from our redline helps keep idiot blueberries from sitting there shooting at the MCC the entire match

Oh boy, this again?

A blue installation becomes a red installation. You blueberries never defend it, never use it most of the time and never need it to cap an objective.

It is going away because my tank can't move forward until those things are gone. Otherwise, it is sitting there waiting to go red.

I've also seen one too many red cannons hold blueberries at bay. Best to remove them from the equation.

For the third time already, go ahead - destroy the turrets in the middle of the map and do whatever the heck you want... but leave the ones near our base, because destroying those is what enables protostompers to keep us behind our line -_-

The enemy isn't going to go and hack a turret right next to your main base and use it to destroy vehicles when there are 2 objectives between them and the rest of their team.

Leave those damn turrets, they are there for a reason.

Well, I hope you're satisfied for griefing your own team. How are we meant to defend ourselves from vehicles, besides from switching to an AV class? It is people like this who result in us getting lined, and I am not a 'blueberry'.

This isn't Call of Duty where every single tactic has to be morally justified, and where strategic defences such as camping is ridiculed. There comes smartness in being patient and using what is at your disposal.

The beginnings of matches seem to be a massive scramble for who can destroy the most neutral installations. I see heavies driving around with AFGs, blowing turrets up just for the sake of points.

This isn't strategic at all, people are ruining the potential defences of their own team just for the sake of attaining 50 extra war points.

It is people like this who enable protostompers and their vehicles to win. Without any turret installations, how are we meant to prevent ourselves from getting lined in?

CCP, please remove points for destroying neutral installations.


edit - for those who are unable to assume that I have some moderate sense of reason, I am talking about destroying turrets on our side of the map. Sure, go blow up their neutral turrets or ones in the middle which are going to be taken over, but people seem to feel the need to remove our defences. I cannot wait until we get to call in installations and people on our own team will just destroy them for WP..


Since many people are not getting - I am going to make my point here...
I'm fine with you destroying turrets in the middle of the map, I agree that they easily fall into the enemy's hands. BUT LEAVE THE TURRETS OUTSIDE OUR BASE ALONE! They are there to prevent a hoard of 5 tanks nailing us into our base and keeping us behind our line.

What CCP need to do is impose an automatic shielding/damage resistance on ALL 'NEUTRAL' turrets at the start of the map, until they can be claimed by either side. Thus way all the tankers are prevented from getting cheap WP whilst destroying vital assets that their own team can use.
And for all the tankers crying out that they are preventing Saud turrets from being used on them by the enemy, boo-*******-boo. No one gives a flying **** about you tank, and if you are seriously that vulnerable in a mobile, heavily shielded/armoured tank kitted out in OP turrets and rail cannons, then I suggest you skill into your HAV's more, or better yet, get out of your damn tank and go hack the installation yourself.
It's like every person who has skilled into HAV's suddenly becomes a ******* cripple, and their clones are forced to reside inside a rolling fortress, else they be forced to sit motionless in the MCC or spawn for the entirety of the game because their clones legs don't ******* work!
Destroying a turret at the start of a match for 50WP is the very essence of douche baggery, and if you are so incapable as a tank driver to simply roll into the center of the map and kill an infantry soldier in your mobile fortress for the same amount of WP, then I suggest you leave your tanks alone, pick up an AR and go get some kills the old fashion way like the rest of us, and if you still can't manage that, then I suggest you stop playing DUST514 altogether.

The beginnings of matches seem to be a massive scramble for who can destroy the most neutral installations. I see heavies driving around with AFGs, blowing turrets up just for the sake of points.

This isn't strategic at all, people are ruining the potential defences of their own team just for the sake of attaining 50 extra war points.

It is people like this who enable protostompers and their vehicles to win. Without any turret installations, how are we meant to prevent ourselves from getting lined in?

CCP, please remove points for destroying neutral installations.


edit - for those who are unable to assume that I have some moderate sense of reason, I am talking about destroying turrets on our side of the map. Sure, go blow up their neutral turrets or ones in the middle which are going to be taken over, but people seem to feel the need to remove our defences. I cannot wait until we get to call in installations and people on our own team will just destroy them for WP..


Since many people are not getting - I am going to make my point here...
I'm fine with you destroying turrets in the middle of the map, I agree that they easily fall into the enemy's hands. BUT LEAVE THE TURRETS OUTSIDE OUR BASE ALONE! They are there to prevent a hoard of 5 tanks nailing us into our base and keeping us behind our line.

I'm surprised anyone is actually taking this seriously...

What a joke.

You are an ignorant fool and you spam recruitment scams all over the forums, your opinion means nothing to anyone.

Seriously are you stalking every one of my posts you ******* creep. And first off I don't spam the forums, I've actually actually had someone accept my invitation and I'm now playing with them. Secondly I made a valid ******* point so it's not ignorance, and finally I'd ******* cream you in WP and kills without destroying a single turret or installation so there.

War Points or not I am still blowing them up to peices.

Especially if you cannot prove as a blueberry the ability to maintain control of said structure.

If my team can't use it, nobody can.

Well, someone sure is insecure ; no need to boast on here.

It clearly is ignorance. You ignore I-Shayz-I's reasons and immediately start attacking him/her when they are completely valid.

Also, in Iron Wolf Saber's own words,



You simply cannot rely on you're teammates at all if they're randoms.

And another thing, for every enemy tank or dropship that I or my squad see destroy an installation, we all instantly change to our proto swarm/forge gun anti armour loadouts and obliterate your 1.5 million ISK vehicle in a matter of minutes. So be warned, we will find you, and I will destroy your madrugar tank, if I see you destroy a neutral/friendly installation.