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The AR is really not that far off-balanced at all. The range and ROF is fine as is. If anything a slightly smaller clip and it would be the only thing it needs so it isnt spammed. Personally, I would rather bring other weapons up to its level than a nerf.

And the TAC is not better than the ScR. I have played with both and the mechanics controlling the ROF for the TAC are completely gimped.

AR with a range nerf will still be the best at close quarters. Try rushing with a scrambler, have fun! Though it'd have to wait until the other races rifles are released. Once they are, it will be

Gallente Assault Rifle: Best close range
Amarr Scrambler Rifle: Best mid range
Caldari Rail Rifle: Best long range
Minmatar Combat Rifle: Average at all

Yep but no one wants their ar "nerfed" even though its not working as intended...and for you scrubs I've been here since before you could buy your way into closed beta so don't act as if idk what's up we knew then ar would be shorter range but right now ar is better than ascr at close and medium range don't try and tell me otherwise I have both at pro 5 and use both but stick with AR it kills faster

the TAR which is a copy of the ScR better than the ScR.

LOOOL obviously you don't run the Imperial Scrambler much!

yeah TAR sucks

"I can at least confirm we've discussed this internally and yes, AR should be shortest. If/when it'll be adjusted is something one of the CCP guys will have to share though" -Hans Jagerblitzen

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idk about that people kill me pretty fast with AScR and it should be less impressive because gallente make a better automatic weapon

The AR is really not that far off-balanced at all. The range and ROF is fine as is. If anything a slightly smaller clip and it would be the only thing it needs so it isnt spammed. Personally, I would rather bring other weapons up to its level than a nerf.

And the TAC is not better than the ScR. I have played with both and the mechanics controlling the ROF for the TAC are completely gimped.

People won't be happy until the AR is nerfed to being practically useless. The fact that a weapon made over 20,000 years into the future only tickles people at over 100 meters is fcking absurd when the 17th century Flintlock Rifle can kill a man reliably up to ~300 meters.

The TAR somehow out ranges the scrambler rifle, but the fact that you can charge up the scrambler and essentially take all the shots you could of fired and pack them into one mega shot makes it infinitely better than the TAR.

Bro wtf logic is that its Eve dust514 the AR is not fine unless the scr gets a big range buff

The ScR does quite fine against ARs. I run the ScR exclusively now and have zero issues against ARs unless its a proto suit with a Douvolle and then that is understandable. If you can aim and have awareness enough to monitor your heat build up then the ScR is a frightening weapon.

I actually think that the weapon balance right now is probably the best Ive seen it.

Smaller clip size lololol

Good luck killing me in a 1v1 with a AR

Issue with lasers is they're doing far too much damage vs armour. they should melt through shields and do least half of what they should on armour. Explosive stuff is the armour killer (SMG, Nades, MD) whereas sniper rifles and the assault rifles should be balanced between shields and armour since they are 'hybrid' class weapons,
gallente use short range high damage (anti matter ammo) which is shotguns and the AR's i'm guessing are running standard ammo types, balanced range and damage. What i would like to see is the Breach AR fixed, doing the calculations it gets out DPS'd by a militia SMG
The range of AR isn't too bad. i have max skills for mine and it does pretty average damage over 40m which i'd have to say is pretty acceptable
with lasers i'm guessing the standard laser rifle is whats classed as the beam lasers in eve (long range good damage) and the scrambler rifle is pulse lasers. shorter range good damage. so assault scrams should have a similar range to AR's but be more effective over shields.

If they're changing range of AR they should at least up damage slightly or maybe even rof so as to not get too overpowered by proficiency and damage mods.
But i'd liek to see ammo types come into the weapons so we can change range/damage of the rifles ourselves. would offer a lot more tactical play to the field

Then buff the scr range...or do you want a crutch the whole time you play...blasters are short range high damage go play eve or gtfo before saying what's right and wrong..if ccp wishes to combine this with eve then make it the same not the opposite

AR with a range nerf will still be the best at close quarters. Try rushing with a scrambler, have fun! Though it'd have to wait until the other races rifles are released. Once they are, it will be

Gallente Assault Rifle: Best close range
Amarr Scrambler Rifle: Best mid range
Caldari Rail Rifle: Best long range
Minmatar Combat Rifle: Average at all

Guess they will all be going Scrambler Rifle now huh?

I'll never get the argument for assault rifle/ Scrambler rifle... There is two variant's for assault weapons essentially, that's nice?

They should be the base middle of the road weapon that you build balance around for the rest of the gun's... Keep the base gun's static and then build balance around them... the more you change the base line the more we have to start all over again.

Ranges currently are a joke... a 13 year old with a pistol TODAY can fire more accurately and further then a duvolle assault rifle can.. More effective damage ranges, and hitboxes that register a shot in the foot differently from a shot in the heart would add much more balance...

this is even representative in the Flaylock's where direct impact shot's to their head, deal less damage then shooting the ground under their feet.

This is a game. In real life we don't have clones, or spaceships, or magic resurrection needles either.

The Assault SCR IS an AR.... it just shoots different bullets.

Why people is so stupid in this forums ?

Wow what a silly post sir

Have you even tried the Assault SCR ? or even the AR ?

The Assault SCR is a GEK-38 with a Scope, better DPS and Range.