DUST Search - Drop uplink spam

Dust Junky 4Life wrote:

Boot Booter wrote:

So I'm not here to start a QQ thread and listen to everyone yell at me (I think up links are great) but, drop uplinks give too many WP and has lead to everyone spamming them about. The recent changes to the scanner etc has helped but drop uplink are still, by far, the most efficient way to farm WP. Think about it, why should some stupid blueberry who spawns in on your uplink only to run quicker to their impending doom give you 25 points. How in the world does that equal half a kill? You could nearly top the leaderboards by running in a militia suit with poorly placed up links while actually doing more damage than help to your team. Anyway I'd like some feedback on my grand list of ideas below.

Reduce spawn points to 15 and raise nanohives resupply to 15. BOOM that's it. Then there is balance (for the most part) in the equipment world.

Go fk yourself! How about that?
If your not a logi, stay the fk out of our business. We dont need you dictating for us.
If you dont make enough WP, it's because you suck at this game!
#1 EVERY match. Bunch of jealous hohos.

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Boot Booter Omega Elite Mercs INC. 106	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:36:00 - [1] - Quote So I'm not here to start a QQ thread and listen to everyone yell at me (I think up links are great) but, drop uplinks give too many WP and has lead to everyone spamming them about. The recent changes to the scanner etc has helped but drop uplink are still, by far, the most efficient way to farm WP. Think about it, why should some stupid blueberry who spawns in on your uplink only to run quicker to their impending doom give you 25 points. How in the world does that equal half a kill? You could nearly top the leaderboards by running in a militia suit with poorly placed up links while actually doing more damage than help to your team. Anyway I'd like some feedback on my grand list of ideas below. Reduce spawn points to 15 and raise nanohives resupply to 15. BOOM that's it. Then there is balance (for the most part) in the equipment world.
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 229	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:38:00 - [2] - Quote NO!
Michael Epic Universal Militia Contractings 61	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:48:00 - [3] - Quote This game isn't about killing people. Its about capturing NULL's, destroying MCC's, gaining corporation power and acreage in New Eden. Killing is a byproduct of it...but equipment and supportive functionality still key role. Drop Uplinks just as much or more important than any other piece of equipment. How would you have them work? Be able to tell who are blueberries and who aren't? That's silly and a lot of extra work and programming for no gain.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 111	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:52:00 - [4] - Quote What about lowering the WP to 15 as suggested, but increasing the amount you can get from triage - there are a lot of logis who are disgruntled when they rep up hundreds of armor hp and get nothing for it... I understand there is a cooldown timer on reps - but reps should be rewarded more consistently than spawns.
Aleksander Black Immortal Retribution 183	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:09:00 - [5] - Quote You do know that they are a pain to fit, right? Much harder than a hive. If people want to spam uplinks, let them. The tradeoff is already present as half of the team will be running in fitting issues they wouldnt have otherwise, which translates into less damage, ehp, profile etc.. On top of that if there are 20 uplinks in the same place you will hardly get any wp for your trouble. You and your team would be better with other equipments. I agree that we could have a lower spawn points cap, but this is New Eden. Let people be stupid if they want to.
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 736	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:17:00 - [6] - Quote My personal opinion, Uplinks are the most powerful weapon you can run with in Domination mode and possibly in Skirmish (but especially Domination). I'd say you can't reward enough a dedicated Uplink spammer (in the good sense of the term lol). It's not about skills, but about what you do for your team... Then again, I don't see what's the problem of having them on top of the scoreboard at the end of the battle. I can live with it, it doesn't hurt me. Is it because of OB's...?
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1602	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:23:00 - [7] - Quote Damn, when the reds are crushing you and some scout runs up and hides an uplink or two near an unguarded objective the whole battle turns around. If they don't deserve some WP for that then we might as well shut off the server you greedy gits.
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 14	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:24:00 - [8] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: but reps should be rewarded more consistently than spawns. Amen. I occasionally run into issues where an entire match worth of healing will not register any triage. Sometimes that is literally thousands of HP restored to my team mates for no WPs awarded. I don't play to see my name in lights, I play to help the team, so its not THAT big a deal to a player like me, but it IS an issue. Massive link spam in an area can lead to game slowdowns too, but massive hive dumps seem to do it faster.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 422	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:26:00 - [9] - Quote Meh. Uplink WP is the product of someone dying, then respawning on top of it. You're not forced to spawn on top of one (unless in Ambush, because **** proper spawns). A proper logibro will be on top of the boards every time. You shoot, they resupply. You get shot, they patch you up. You die, they offer you a place to respawn. Or would you have no ammo, no repper, no place to respawn except in the back of your spawn? Added note: Uplinks are needed. The spam of them is about as needed as proto-noobs against militia-noobs. Oh... wait. Isn't that how they cater to their pathetic ego these days? Meh. I should of left with all the others with common sense. This game is a crawling mess of blood and disgrace.
Beforcial REAPERS REPUBLIC 31	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:33:00 - [10] - Quote Is there a fix comming for that refit bug at the resupply? Cause that's what i think most of these assault grunts really complain about without knowing. Sorry but these WP vs K/D ratio complains are getting old.

Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 400	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:50:00 - [11] - Quote My only issue is you shouldnt be able to drop a million of them around a point. There should be some issue where they cant fully operate being in close proximity to each other. That would limit some of the spam tactic. But WP should stay as is and reward whomever wants to put them down.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1009	Posted - 2013.10.11 21:07:00 - [12] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: So I'm not here to start a QQ thread and listen to everyone yell at me (I think up links are great) but, drop uplinks give too many WP and has lead to everyone spamming them about. The recent changes to the scanner etc has helped but drop uplink are still, by far, the most efficient way to farm WP. Think about it, why should some stupid blueberry who spawns in on your uplink only to run quicker to their impending doom give you 25 points. How in the world does that equal half a kill? You could nearly top the leaderboards by running in a militia suit with poorly placed up links while actually doing more damage than help to your team. Anyway I'd like some feedback on my grand list of ideas below. Reduce spawn points to 15 and raise nanohives resupply to 15. BOOM that's it. Then there is balance (for the most part) in the equipment world. Uh, no I spam uplinks myself, and don't have a problem with people that do that, whether they're on the enemy team or my team. I just don't care. If you really want CCP to stop it, start up a petition thread asking CCP to make it so you can only put one type of uplink on any suit, instead of loading a PRO Logi with 4 different uplinks.
Wombat in combat TeamPlayers EoN. 105	Posted - 2013.10.11 21:16:00 - [13] - Quote Currently you can have 19 active (23 if counting AUR equipment) nanohives and drop uplinks. That's way too much. I'd propose 8 of each. I'd also be in favor of reducing WP from spawns to either 15 or 20 WP. Ideally uplinks should also award more WP depending on spawntime reduction but that might be too complicated to code.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1009	Posted - 2013.10.11 22:13:00 - [14] - Quote Wombat in combat wrote: Currently you can have 19 active (23 if counting AUR equipment) nanohives and drop uplinks. That's way too much. I'd propose 8 of each. I'd also be in favor of reducing WP from spawns to either 15 or 20 WP. Ideally uplinks should also award more WP depending on spawntime reduction but that might be too complicated to code. How is that too much?
Boot Booter Omega Elite Mercs INC. 107	Posted - 2013.10.12 00:13:00 - [15] - Quote Look everybody! I never said I hate uplinks and think no one should use them and that they aren't hard to fit! I was simply saying they give far too many WP. I mean I run scanners and light up the whole map with reds for my squad to destroy.. How is that less useful than a spawned dood? I know many people who run with uplinks JUST for the points.. I want uplinks to yield good points but place them equal to other equipment so that we get some diversity. To reinforce this point, I could argue that a well used nanite injector is a more powerful tool towards winning but no one runs with them anymore because they don't farm WP as easily. I just want some balance :)
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 749	Posted - 2013.10.12 10:31:00 - [16] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Look everybody! I never said I hate uplinks and think no one should use them and that they aren't hard to fit! I was simply saying they give far too many WP. I mean I run scanners and light up the whole map with reds for my squad to destroy.. How is that less useful than a spawned dood? I know many people who run with uplinks JUST for the points.. I want uplinks to yield good points but place them equal to other equipment so that we get some diversity. To reinforce this point, I could argue that a well used nanite injector is a more powerful tool towards winning but no one runs with them anymore because they don't farm WP as easily. I just want some balance :) I understand your point, but I still think that Uplinks are more useful than anything else (outside of Ambush, of course!). Scanning for your squad is great, yes, but the balaning factor is that you do receive immediate and personal benefits, as you detect the enemies yourself and you're able to engage them or to prevent them from sneaking on you. I'm very addicted to the Scanner, I run it on every single one of my fittings and I'm an Assaulter as primary and a Vehicle user, so I'm being very objective here. I think that every single SP you get from Uplinks is deserved
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1541	Posted - 2013.10.12 10:36:00 - [17] - Quote droplink spam is done to give you squads as many spawn points as possible, its the correct thing to do, there is just no valid tactical reason not to do it to be honest
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1719	Posted - 2013.10.12 10:37:00 - [18] - Quote In case you didn't notice, people is very selective with which Uplinks they use ....Drop an Uplink in the wrong place and not one is going to use it. Some people goes through a lot of trouble to choose perfect locations for it... Hint ; Uplinks in top of buildings, how you thing they get up there ? Magic ?
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 31	Posted - 2013.10.12 12:11:00 - [19] - Quote Bunch of whinning school girls. No more 3-5 Second links for u hos. Buy ur own fkiing links.
Boot Booter Omega Elite Mercs INC. 108	Posted - 2013.10.12 13:21:00 - [20] - Quote Lol I know people go through a lot of trouble to get sweet uplink spots and that's great. I think up links are awesome. But some people don't go through a lot of trouble and just throw them somewhere for points, because they give A LOT of points. What I would like to see is an incentive for good uplink locations and more points for resuppling teammates / repairing armour. I think the only way to balance it in a simple manner is to reduce the points of a spawn and increase the points of the other two equipments. If you wanna get more complex like you get 10 percent of the points which spawned people earn for one minute or something , similar to what I heard about dropship spawning a while ago, I'm all for it. My issue is stupid uplinks which stupidly earn stupid people stupid points because of stupid blueberries.

Boot Booter Omega Elite Mercs INC. 108	Posted - 2013.10.12 13:35:00 - [21] - Quote Furthermore... Maybe you dedicated logi/uplink users haven't figured out where I was going with this, poor explaining on my part. Reducing up link points will not really affect those who are good up link users. All it will do is reduce the incentive for stupid uplink spammers. With less uplinks scattered all around it puts a high value on the placement of uplinks, gives less spawn points = more points for dedicated uplinkers (you would get all the spawn points rather than splitting them with a stupid uplinker), and also bring balance to the equipment carried on the battlefield.
Toby Flenderson research lab 87	Posted - 2013.10.12 13:38:00 - [22] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: So I'm not here to start a QQ thread and listen to everyone yell at me (I think up links are great) but, drop uplinks give too many WP and has lead to everyone spamming them about. The recent changes to the scanner etc has helped but drop uplink are still, by far, the most efficient way to farm WP. Think about it, why should some stupid blueberry who spawns in on your uplink only to run quicker to their impending doom give you 25 points. How in the world does that equal half a kill? You could nearly top the leaderboards by running in a militia suit with poorly placed up links while actually doing more damage than help to your team. Anyway I'd like some feedback on my grand list of ideas below. Reduce spawn points to 15 and raise nanohives resupply to 15. BOOM that's it. Then there is balance (for the most part) in the equipment world. Just limit the number of uplinks allowed by one team. I'm less concerned about WP farming than I am about uplinks winning games for people because they spam 30 in a cloud around the objective.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 104	Posted - 2013.10.12 13:39:00 - [23] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Look everybody! I never said I hate uplinks and think no one should use them and that they aren't hard to fit! I was simply saying they give far too many WP. I mean I run scanners and light up the whole map with reds for my squad to destroy.. How is that less useful than a spawned dood? I know many people who run with uplinks JUST for the points.. I want uplinks to yield good points but place them equal to other equipment so that we get some diversity. To reinforce this point, I could argue that a well used nanite injector is a more powerful tool towards winning but no one runs with them anymore because they don't farm WP as easily. I just want some balance :) Logis have stopped using injectors because of all the QQ from the KD/R E-PEEN brigade who make threads demanding logi's don;t revive them so their KD/R isn;t affected .. no one waits around to be revived either .. I usually let the assaults in my squad run a militia injector and ill use my proto repper to heal the armour of any1 they revive ..
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 104	Posted - 2013.10.12 13:43:00 - [24] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: Boot Booter wrote: So I'm not here to start a QQ thread and listen to everyone yell at me (I think up links are great) but, drop uplinks give too many WP and has lead to everyone spamming them about. The recent changes to the scanner etc has helped but drop uplink are still, by far, the most efficient way to farm WP. Think about it, why should some stupid blueberry who spawns in on your uplink only to run quicker to their impending doom give you 25 points. How in the world does that equal half a kill? You could nearly top the leaderboards by running in a militia suit with poorly placed up links while actually doing more damage than help to your team. Anyway I'd like some feedback on my grand list of ideas below. Reduce spawn points to 15 and raise nanohives resupply to 15. BOOM that's it. Then there is balance (for the most part) in the equipment world. Just limit the number of uplinks allowed by one team. I'm less concerned about WP farming than I am about uplinks winning games for people because they spam 30 in a cloud around the objective. Most of the time it's assaults dropping militia uplinks everywhere .. you know full well the QQ these forums will get when the logi's who have proto uplinks aren;t able to put them down because all the blueberries are dropping militia ones down and the team quota has been reached .. to fix the problem they just need to put a CD on switching suits at depots .. the real problem is people starting with an uplink then going to supply depot and switching to hive
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 570	Posted - 2013.10.12 14:49:00 - [25] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: So I'm not here to start a QQ thread and listen to everyone yell at me (I think up links are great) but, drop uplinks give too many WP and has lead to everyone spamming them about. The recent changes to the scanner etc has helped but drop uplink are still, by far, the most efficient way to farm WP. Think about it, why should some stupid blueberry who spawns in on your uplink only to run quicker to their impending doom give you 25 points. How in the world does that equal half a kill? You could nearly top the leaderboards by running in a militia suit with poorly placed up links while actually doing more damage than help to your team. Anyway I'd like some feedback on my grand list of ideas below. Reduce spawn points to 15 and raise nanohives resupply to 15. BOOM that's it. Then there is balance (for the most part) in the equipment world. No. It's not the blueberry's fault that people spawn on his uplink. And if you think it's the easiest way to farm WP, then why do you care that he has more WP than you?
Dust Junky 4Life Intara Direct Action Caldari State 34	Posted - 2013.10.12 15:03:00 - [26] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: So I'm not here to start a QQ thread and listen to everyone yell at me (I think up links are great) but, drop uplinks give too many WP and has lead to everyone spamming them about. The recent changes to the scanner etc has helped but drop uplink are still, by far, the most efficient way to farm WP. Think about it, why should some stupid blueberry who spawns in on your uplink only to run quicker to their impending doom give you 25 points. How in the world does that equal half a kill? You could nearly top the leaderboards by running in a militia suit with poorly placed up links while actually doing more damage than help to your team. Anyway I'd like some feedback on my grand list of ideas below. Reduce spawn points to 15 and raise nanohives resupply to 15. BOOM that's it. Then there is balance (for the most part) in the equipment world. Go fk yourself! How about that? If your not a logi, stay the fk out of our business. We dont need you dictating for us. If you dont make enough WP, it's because you suck at this game! #1 EVERY match. Bunch of jealous hohos.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 969	Posted - 2013.10.12 15:07:00 - [27] - Quote 10 WP for Team Spawns 25 WP for Squad Spawns
Boot Booter Omega Elite Mercs INC. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 00:22:00 - [28] - Quote Dust Junky 4Life wrote: Boot Booter wrote: So I'm not here to start a QQ thread and listen to everyone yell at me (I think up links are great) but, drop uplinks give too many WP and has lead to everyone spamming them about. The recent changes to the scanner etc has helped but drop uplink are still, by far, the most efficient way to farm WP. Think about it, why should some stupid blueberry who spawns in on your uplink only to run quicker to their impending doom give you 25 points. How in the world does that equal half a kill? You could nearly top the leaderboards by running in a militia suit with poorly placed up links while actually doing more damage than help to your team. Anyway I'd like some feedback on my grand list of ideas below. Reduce spawn points to 15 and raise nanohives resupply to 15. BOOM that's it. Then there is balance (for the most part) in the equipment world. Go fk yourself! How about that? If your not a logi, stay the fk out of our business. We dont need you dictating for us. If you dont make enough WP, it's because you suck at this game! #1 EVERY match. Bunch of jealous hohos. Jesus dude.. You're a loser.
Boot Booter Omega Elite Mercs INC. 111	Posted - 2013.10.14 00:24:00 - [29] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: 10 WP for Team Spawns 25 WP for Squad Spawns This is a cool idea.. They could color squad uplinks with the green squad color.
Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2013.10.14 00:43:00 - [30] - Quote I enjoy the spams and wished more ppl would lay them down. I try to lay one down with a junk fit then on my death switch to my normal fit. When there are a lot of ppl doing this, the wp's we get aren't a lot. Although, if only one or two ppl are laying them down, then I consider them saviors and deserve the massive amount of wp's. Although, the chances of being DL camped are much higher and spawners have to realize that. Keep spamming them!



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