You mean when EoN decided to turn the tides?

It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days....
Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers

EoN deserves credit for sure, but there's plenty more to go around.

It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days....
Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers

You really think this campaign ends here? Seriously, what is the alternative? Lolpubs?

FW is the only place to find relevant competition or what is left of it, as more corp squads only play this. PC is stalled atm and those corps that cannot participate will flock here. They already have been for some time now.

Tbh, there is no more challenge aside from FW. I choose to stay and play, as I am sure many of us in the PIE channel will as well.

We are winning in convincing fashion. Give props where props are due.

Eon deserves almost the whole credit, plus the rewards, you guys have made a good job with your sponsors
Well i'll be back in next weeks to see if the situation will be the same, for the moment... i'm downloading Dark Souls 2 beta

EoN did warn you guys

[url]https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1308987#post1308987[/url]

What props? 2 days ago the amarr faction had 5% of the total districts

Of course they were. Don't pretend like you are better than us because some extra corporations came to support us, also don't pretend like prior to these last few weeks we Amarr have been under represented.

And screw your idea of exclusivity in FW that's counter productive to the development of the game type.

It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days....
Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers

Now we own all of them because your faction proved to be weaker, less organised, and in many cases less skilled than ours, when numbers were more balanced.

You mean when EoN decided to turn the tides?

I could have made this same statement for Minnny last month, lots of people just like to bandwagon.

Balanced numbers?
All the squad in the squad finder are amarr, if you guys were so cool, why you have been dominated since now?

So how do you explain the fact that in almost 1 day all the district turned?
Since now Minmatar and Gallente have been better than Amarr and Caldari.

Our downswing in EVE, a lack of Amarrian interest and following in Amarr FW and a general lack of organisation...until now.

You mean when EoN decided to turn the tides?

[quote=shaman oga]It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days....
Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers

Of course they were. Don't pretend like you are better than us because some extra corporations came to support us, /quote]
If by "some extra corporations" you mean the alliance with the most high ranked corporations and players, tournament winners, and who managed to hold on to molden heath from the rest of dust.

I'm sure they only had a smart part in it.

I cannot believe all of the Minmatar and Gallente FW are such sore losers and whiny children.

When we were losing we promised retribution, we didn't give up and blame a corp or an Alliance.

I cannot believe all of the Minmatar and Gallente FW are such sore losers and whiny children.

When we were losing we promised retribution, we didn't give up and blame a corp or an Alliance.

(( I would consider now CCP fixed the FW system, either that that when our player bases more of less equalised our side was just plain better))

No. You just declared FW broken and cried to Foxfour.

You mean when EoN decided to turn the tides?

I think you've confused "eon" with "everyone who considered the FW rewards for more than a minute".

I still think its broken. But now you know what we were subject to.

No, we still don't know, FW turned in PC and like everybody know there is no balance in PC.

I cannot believe all of the Minmatar and Gallente FW are such sore losers and whiny children.

When we were losing we promised Immortal Retribution, we didn't give up and blame a corp or an Alliance.

(( I would consider now CCP fixed the FW system, either that that when our player bases more of less equalised our side was just plain better))

Poor amarr, they can win only with big alliances who help them.

Poor amarr, they can win only with big alliances who help them.

It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days....
Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers

What props? 2 days ago the amarr faction had 5% of the total districts

It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days....
Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers

There is no excuse for your defeats. Don't hide behind the "they aren't real FW'ers" because if it wasn't for this event there would be just a handful of FW'ers.

I still think its broken. But now you know what we were subject to.

Pretty much just seems like Shaman bitched out when he couldn't win a couple of matches.

The problem is not win or lose, the problem is that FW turned into PC, but only for one side, the other side have always the same players, people should play with the race they want, not with the race their corp/alliance have told them to play with.
Your corp is a roleplay amarr corp and that is ok, but the rest?
They are only here for orders or for rewards.

So even though most of the Amarrian players are out right better than or equal to the MInmatar you would have FW become a popularity contest.

Now FW is a popularity contest, few amarrian players and a lot of hirelings.
You simply have attracted the right sympathy, that's why i say you have turned a war for a faction in a normal war for corporations/alliances, there is already PC for that.

So you wont admit before that the Minmatar had the greater player base, and that now were benefiting from it you are in a pissy mood....

That's exactly my point, all your hirelings didn't get a f.... about FW till now, the problem is not with PIE, you have always played for amarr FW, the problem is with all the scumbags that have never ever played FW and now they are celebrating a victory.

If rewards are offered i will play FW more simple as

Well I guess what this event shows is that more of us want Amarr stuff than the other races, I know that is what drew me into playing a bit again and doing so in FW.

On a side note fighting against the folks that want Minmatar rewards is annoying, whole teams of shotgun and MD assaults/logis LOL

They are in EVE too. Whats your point? They are mercs after all.

Its just like how ANON holds the entirety of Minmatar FW together, without them, you don't have enough squads to take the fights through numbers alone.

OMG this is so true. I hear MDs firing in my sleep this week! I'd have to say I'm a little disappointed that I'm not seeing more lazors on our side. I was envisioning a whole squad of amarr assaults with viziams melting everything in their path.


Also, not that we spend as much time in the war barge as we used to, I would still, at least once, love to see it when every person is wearing the appropriate races suit. That's how I picture FW, at least during a coordinated offensive like this. Make it happen, PIE!
(Lol, like I need to tell them; I think Aero or True might get so excited they would pass out or have a seizure if they saw that! Medic!)

They are in EVE too. Whats your point? They are mercs after all.

Its just like how ANON holds the entirety of Minmatar FW together, without them, you don't have enough squads to take the fights through numbers alone.

Admittedly though Cubs has been working with us in PIE GD closely and has been a great help to the war effort, its not like he brought his corp in with no reason given, etc.

In this case we happened to get EoN who stated months ago that they supported the Am/Cal factions. Whenever they get into FW properly or if they have now is up to them.

In space we just got Fweddit back after they left for god knows where, and hopefully CVA might return, if so our fleet with have some serious numbers to them as well.

Nope. Fought them twice last night. Still matari.

Oh good. I read a post by trapper awhile ago saying he was switching support to the Amarr. Can't log in to check myself though.

I feel like FW needs to be done in a way so that sure you can support your allies when you want, but its not profitable for you to do so.

Why not? That's kind of the point to an alliance.

There wouldn't be anyone in minmatar fw if that was the case.

Few Allainces cross the boundaries between FW zones, some do but that normally isn't the done thing, because in FW eve side you sign up to a milita, and are loyal to that one until you drop it, also if you do drop it your are stuck with negative penalties against the opposing factions.

So sure a whole bunch of Gallentean supporters can come out to the FW zone but they cannot see the complexes in space, so all they can do is fight at the gates.

In FW we need to discourage overlapping, encourage loyalty to one faction, and ensure FW is a variant and enjoyable mode where allied groups can squad up and do things together, but cannot cross over willy nilly depending on what takes their fancy.

The argument, "Oh but were mercenaries" does work here because capsuleers are essentially mercenaries as well as they only fight for one factions at a time.

There's kind of a major difference between capsuleers and mercenaries. But that's not the point.
I don't see anything "not fun" about crossing over sides. If anything being stuck in one militia is pretty unfun. Plus I doubt it'll ever happen considering CCP's current stance: Do whatever for whoever.
I would rather have it so you can jump between allied factions, but can't switch to the opposite alliance. Not without paying some sort of penalty or just having it be super limited.
Jumping between Gallente to Minmatar, or Amarr to Caldari = fine. But no Caldari to Minmatar or Amarr to Gallente. Maybe allow players to defect once per year or something, maybe have them grind up standings afterwards some how.