DUST Search - amarr FW is the FOTW

True Adamance wrote:

shaman oga wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

shaman oga wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

So even though most of the Amarrian players are out right better than or equal to the MInmatar you would have FW become a popularity contest.

Now FW is a popularity contest, few amarrian players and a lot of hirelings.
You simply have attracted the right sympathy, that's why i say you have turned a war for a faction in a normal war for corporations/alliances, there is already PC for that.

So you wont admit before that the Minmatar had the greater player base, and that now were benefiting from it you are in a pissy mood....

That's exactly my point, all your hirelings didn't get a f.... about FW till now, the problem is not with PIE, you have always played for amarr FW, the problem is with all the scumbags that have never ever played FW and now they are celebrating a victory.

They are in EVE too. Whats your point? They are mercs after all.

Its just like how ANON holds the entirety of Minmatar FW together, without them, you don't have enough squads to take the fights through numbers alone.

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Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1749	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:28:00 - [31] - Quote Xender17 wrote: You mean when EoN decided to turn the tides? I think you've confused "eon" with "everyone who considered the FW rewards for more than a minute".
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2821	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:30:00 - [32] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Xender17 wrote: You mean when EoN decided to turn the tides? I think you've confused "eon" with "everyone who considered the FW rewards for more than a minute". Indeed.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 761	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:47:00 - [33] - Quote True Adamance wrote: First Prophet wrote: True Adamance wrote: I cannot believe all of the Minmatar and Gallente FW are such sore losers and whiny children. When we were losing we promised retribution, we didn't give up and blame a corp or an Alliance. No. You just declared FW broken and cried to Foxfour. I still think its broken. But now you know what we were subject to. No, we still don't know, FW turned in PC and like everybody know there is no balance in PC.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2821	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:49:00 - [34] - Quote shaman oga wrote: True Adamance wrote: First Prophet wrote: True Adamance wrote: I cannot believe all of the Minmatar and Gallente FW are such sore losers and whiny children. When we were losing we promised retribution, we didn't give up and blame a corp or an Alliance. No. You just declared FW broken and cried to Foxfour. I still think its broken. But now you know what we were subject to. No, we still don't know, FW turned in PC and like everybody know there is no balance in PC. There is not supposed to be balance between Corporations, the best one wins hands down, if they bring more men to the fight, if they use the best ships and the best gear, that is how it works. You are right we don't know how FW works. If you guys push us back rapidly to equal or dominant ground them perhaps there are balanced fixes, if you don't for a month then we know something is off don't we?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 789	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:58:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I cannot believe all of the Minmatar and Gallente FW are such sore losers and whiny children. When we were losing we promised Immortal Retribution, we didn't give up and blame a corp or an Alliance. (( I would consider now CCP fixed the FW system, either that that when our player bases more of less equalised our side was just plain better)) Fixed that for ya bud.
Beld Errmon Evocatius 978	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:02:00 - [36] - Quote Its good to see ~~Win~~matar getting the pointy end of the flesh baton for a change.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 761	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:05:00 - [37] - Quote Poor amarr, they can win only with big alliances who help them.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2719	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:09:00 - [38] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Poor amarr, they can win only with big alliances who help them. Personally, the squads I run with mostly use advanced gear and we've gone up against a bunch of opposition in full proto throughout the entire squad. Those battles weren't pretty, but we still came out on top. Minmatar players need more organization. "Everyone use protosuits" doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win, it just means you're going to lose a lot of ISK.
Beld Errmon Evocatius 979	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:10:00 - [39] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Poor amarr, they can win only with big alliances who help them. ^sore
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1683	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:12:00 - [40] - Quote shaman oga wrote: It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days.... Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers LOL : ''amarr FW is the FOTW '' Bad loosers are bad.

KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1686	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:13:00 - [41] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: shaman oga wrote: It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days.... Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers You really think this campaign ends here? Seriously, what is the alternative? Lolpubs? FW is the only place to find relevant competition or what is left of it, as more corp squads only play this. PC is stalled atm and those corps that cannot participate will flock here. They already have been for some time now. Tbh, there is no more challenge aside from FW. I choose to stay and play, as I am sure many of us in the PIE channel will as well. We are winning in convincing fashion. Give props where props are due. What props? 2 days ago the amarr faction had 5% of the total districts And in 2 days we have 100% Give props where props are due
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2179	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:38:00 - [42] - Quote shaman oga wrote: It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days.... Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers There is no excuse for your defeats. Don't hide behind the "they aren't real FW'ers" because if it wasn't for this event there would be just a handful of FW'ers.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2834	Posted - 2013.10.11 02:54:00 - [43] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: shaman oga wrote: It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days.... Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers There is no excuse for your defeats. Don't hide behind the "they aren't real FW'ers" because if it wasn't for this event there would be just a handful of FW'ers. Pretty much just seems like Shaman bitched out when he couldn't win a couple of matches.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1188	Posted - 2013.10.11 03:16:00 - [44] - Quote True Adamance wrote: First Prophet wrote: True Adamance wrote: I cannot believe all of the Minmatar and Gallente FW are such sore losers and whiny children. When we were losing we promised retribution, we didn't give up and blame a corp or an Alliance. No. You just declared FW broken and cried to Foxfour. I still think its broken. But now you know what we were subject to. I actually don't cause I can't play. :p
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 761	Posted - 2013.10.11 11:36:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: shaman oga wrote: It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days.... Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers There is no excuse for your defeats. Don't hide behind the "they aren't real FW'ers" because if it wasn't for this event there would be just a handful of FW'ers. Pretty much just seems like Shaman bitched out when he couldn't win a couple of matches. The problem is not win or lose, the problem is that FW turned into PC, but only for one side, the other side have always the same players, people should play with the race they want, not with the race their corp/alliance have told them to play with. Your corp is a roleplay amarr corp and that is ok, but the rest? They are only here for orders or for rewards.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2844	Posted - 2013.10.11 11:48:00 - [46] - Quote shaman oga wrote: True Adamance wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: shaman oga wrote: It's funny how those amarr have made a real turnover in a couple of days.... Oh wait they were not the real amarr FWers There is no excuse for your defeats. Don't hide behind the "they aren't real FW'ers" because if it wasn't for this event there would be just a handful of FW'ers. Pretty much just seems like Shaman bitched out when he couldn't win a couple of matches. The problem is not win or lose, the problem is that FW turned into PC, but only for one side, the other side have always the same players, people should play with the race they want, not with the race their corp/alliance have told them to play with. Your corp is a roleplay amarr corp and that is ok, but the rest? They are only here for orders or for rewards. So even though most of the Amarrian players are out right better than or equal to the MInmatar you would have FW become a popularity contest.
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 303	Posted - 2013.10.11 12:14:00 - [47] - Quote OK, I congratulate the conquest seen over the last few days. We shall return, and in your words, reclaim the systems for the Republic. To my brothers and sisters in the Militia and Federation, don't be down hearted, we will have our day. Recoup your losses with contracts, rebuild your stocks of suits and arms and be ready to turn the tide once the "hired guns" with no honour leave to manage their own affairs.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 670	Posted - 2013.10.11 12:14:00 - [48] - Quote the dreamworld and mindset some people are living in here is amazing. I think you've confused "your efforts" with "free wins for everyone who considered the FW rewards for more than a minute". everyone queues up for Amarr FW because of the rewards, everytime I join FW all minmatar teams in FW are half empty for quite long time now. I would also remind you how some of you cried that amarr was losing nonstop before because except some die hards no one bothered to queue up for them.
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 3217	Posted - 2013.10.11 12:15:00 - [49] - Quote Amarr won all thanks to the great General John Ripper. All hail General John Ripper!
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 761	Posted - 2013.10.11 12:45:00 - [50] - Quote True Adamance wrote: So even though most of the Amarrian players are out right better than or equal to the MInmatar you would have FW become a popularity contest. Now FW is a popularity contest, few amarrian players and a lot of hirelings. You simply have attracted the right sympathy, that's why i say you have turned a war for a faction in a normal war for corporations/alliances, there is already PC for that.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2845	Posted - 2013.10.11 12:47:00 - [51] - Quote shaman oga wrote: True Adamance wrote: So even though most of the Amarrian players are out right better than or equal to the MInmatar you would have FW become a popularity contest. Now FW is a popularity contest, few amarrian players and a lot of hirelings. You simply have attracted the right sympathy, that's why i say you have turned a war for a faction in a normal war for corporations/alliances, there is already PC for that. So you wont admit before that the Minmatar had the greater player base, and that now were benefiting from it you are in a pissy mood.... FW was always for Allainces and Corporations hence why PIE exists, and has existed for 10 years. Hence why entire alliances join and are formed in FW, FW is not for soloists and newbies, its for organised and coordinated play.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 761	Posted - 2013.10.11 12:52:00 - [52] - Quote True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: True Adamance wrote: So even though most of the Amarrian players are out right better than or equal to the MInmatar you would have FW become a popularity contest. Now FW is a popularity contest, few amarrian players and a lot of hirelings. You simply have attracted the right sympathy, that's why i say you have turned a war for a faction in a normal war for corporations/alliances, there is already PC for that. So you wont admit before that the Minmatar had the greater player base, and that now were benefiting from it you are in a pissy mood.... That's exactly my point, all your hirelings didn't get a f.... about FW till now, the problem is not with PIE, you have always played for amarr FW, the problem is with all the scumbags that have never ever played FW and now they are celebrating a victory.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2847	Posted - 2013.10.11 13:08:00 - [53] - Quote shaman oga wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: True Adamance wrote: So even though most of the Amarrian players are out right better than or equal to the MInmatar you would have FW become a popularity contest. Now FW is a popularity contest, few amarrian players and a lot of hirelings. You simply have attracted the right sympathy, that's why i say you have turned a war for a faction in a normal war for corporations/alliances, there is already PC for that. So you wont admit before that the Minmatar had the greater player base, and that now were benefiting from it you are in a pissy mood.... That's exactly my point, all your hirelings didn't get a f.... about FW till now, the problem is not with PIE, you have always played for amarr FW, the problem is with all the scumbags that have never ever played FW and now they are celebrating a victory. They are in EVE too. Whats your point? They are mercs after all. Its just like how ANON holds the entirety of Minmatar FW together, without them, you don't have enough squads to take the fights through numbers alone. Admittedly though Cubs has been working with us in PIE GD closely and has been a great help to the war effort, its not like he brought his corp in with no reason given, etc. In this case we happened to get EoN who stated months ago that they supported the Am/Cal factions. Whenever they get into FW properly or if they have now is up to them. In space we just got Fweddit back after they left for god knows where, and hopefully CVA might return, if so our fleet with have some serious numbers to them as well.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 761	Posted - 2013.10.11 13:12:00 - [54] - Quote Yes, it's more a political won, what happened on the ground are just consequences.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1321	Posted - 2013.10.11 13:13:00 - [55] - Quote If rewards are offered i will play FW more simple as
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2847	Posted - 2013.10.11 13:20:00 - [56] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: If rewards are offered i will play FW more simple as That's my point. One day rewards will come, and even if the Am/Cal should lose ground after this event, we would see it come back later when rewards do apprear assuming the meta remains somewhat stable, Then the war would be who gets the best goodies like it is in eve
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 579	Posted - 2013.10.11 13:44:00 - [57] - Quote i fight for all factions because there's nothing for heavies
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 184	Posted - 2013.10.11 14:30:00 - [58] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Well I guess what this event shows is that more of us want Amarr stuff than the other races, I know that is what drew me into playing a bit again and doing so in FW. On a side note fighting against the folks that want Minmatar rewards is annoying, whole teams of shotgun and MD assaults/logis LOL OMG this is so true. I hear MDs firing in my sleep this week! I'd have to say I'm a little disappointed that I'm not seeing more lazors on our side. I was envisioning a whole squad of amarr assaults with viziams melting everything in their path. Also, not that we spend as much time in the war barge as we used to, I would still, at least once, love to see it when every person is wearing the appropriate races suit. That's how I picture FW, at least during a coordinated offensive like this. Make it happen, PIE! (Lol, like I need to tell them; I think Aero or True might get so excited they would have a seizure if they saw that! Medic!)
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1191	Posted - 2013.10.11 16:50:00 - [59] - Quote True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: True Adamance wrote: So even though most of the Amarrian players are out right better than or equal to the MInmatar you would have FW become a popularity contest. Now FW is a popularity contest, few amarrian players and a lot of hirelings. You simply have attracted the right sympathy, that's why i say you have turned a war for a faction in a normal war for corporations/alliances, there is already PC for that. So you wont admit before that the Minmatar had the greater player base, and that now were benefiting from it you are in a pissy mood.... That's exactly my point, all your hirelings didn't get a f.... about FW till now, the problem is not with PIE, you have always played for amarr FW, the problem is with all the scumbags that have never ever played FW and now they are celebrating a victory. They are in EVE too. Whats your point? They are mercs after all. Its just like how ANON holds the entirety of Minmatar FW together, without them, you don't have enough squads to take the fights through numbers alone. Except didn't Anon start fighting for the Amarr?
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 185	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:26:00 - [60] - Quote Nope. Fought them twice last night. Still matari.



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