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Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:25:00 -
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According to this interview with Creative director Atli Mar, patch 1.6 will focus on bugs and engine upgrade. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1058
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:30:00 -
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Disappointing.
Aside from the new maps, hasn't 1.3,1.4 & 1.5 largely been "bug fixes and improvements".
I think Altis photo matches the general tone of this news.
The caption should read "Why did they condemn me to this hell". |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
655
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:32:00 -
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this is no surprise, this game is still beta, almost every patch will be about fixes with some content thrown in inbetween. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1058
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:36:00 -
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That picture is quite meme-able.
http://imgflip.com/i/43vk3 |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
1515
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:00:00 -
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Jesus ccp comon we want new toys |
We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
394
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:02:00 -
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That is a disappointment. ah well though what do you do though? as much as we complain about this game I still play it albeit less than I used to. Its hard for me to ***** too hard when I want all the bugs hammered out as well.... PVE 2032 here we come \ |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
638
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:08:00 -
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Pretty sure that engine upgrades are what a huge chunk of recent threads have been asking begging for. |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
1515
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:14:00 -
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Wait nvm 1.7 sounds big and sounds like we have a major expation in the works :-) |
Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:14:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Pretty sure that engine upgrades are what a huge chunk of recent threads have been asking begging for.
Yeah if they bring the game to a stable fps and without crashes even in PC that will be huge. But i somehow doub it will solve all those problems. |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
214
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:15:00 -
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Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. |
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Protected Void
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder.
149
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:47:00 -
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Zlocha wrote:According to this interview with Creative director Atli Mar, patch 1.6 will focus on bugs and engine upgrade.
Good. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
90
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Posted - 2013.10.10 12:51:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long.
I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ...
Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago ..
Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game
Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ... |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San EoN.
105
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Posted - 2013.10.10 12:53:00 -
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i'd rather have all the broken content that needs to be fixed, just to keep us interested. rather than get bored with the same sh*t |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
396
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Posted - 2013.10.10 12:55:00 -
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Lets just hope 1.7 doesnt become like 1.5
Off to blow through some SP - Can start back grind for hopefully new content by Christmas |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
1518
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Posted - 2013.10.10 12:57:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ... Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago .. Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ...
Did u have make such a long post explaining u have no idea what goes into game development. A simple taking to long fix would have done the trick |
S Park Finner
DUST University Ivy League
326
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:04:00 -
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I see this as a positive refinement of the release process. We've heard the initial vision of the monthly release activity:
Several teams working on their projects and if, at the time the window closes for a monthly release, they are ready then their bit gets in.
And what we just heard -- cleaning things up for a couple of releases -- 1.5, 1.6 and then 1.7 will be bigger than they anticipated.
It seem to me this is a reflection of all the interaction between the moving parts. As groups work on things they find there are common underlying issues that have to be fixed before they can do a good job of integrating their pieces. If they don't there's the tendency to make adjustments in their own work to overcome the problems. That's bad because those adjustments come back to haunt them later on when the core stuff gets updated.
I'd expect we will see this pattern play out in the future -- teams get their marching orders, they start work, they find stuff that needs to be fixed in the related/underlying systems, we get a few releases with incremental adjustments and when the parts are all there we see a bigger release. If that is the way it plays out I think it's a good thing. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
625
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:05:00 -
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New weapon(s) has been pushed back but I dont think they said up until when so its safe to assume 1.6 New map (or socket, not sure) has been confirmed for 1.6, wouldnt be surprised if they wait till the end of the month to push it back though.
Possibly some vehicle rebalance or "relief" as they call it, to help ease the transition to the bigger vehicle rebalance that has been delayed indefinately. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
88
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:15:00 -
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EVE generally has a large content exapnsion around christmas and easter so i would expect CCP to keep a similar schedule with DUST too. i wouldn't expect to see all the racial suits till next april time although we may start seeing the new rifles/knives in december which would be nice. i just want my minmatar/gallente commando suit |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
1070
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:44:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. QFT.
That was a highly informative interview, hats off to Alex Locher and Alti. More information on where we're heading for 1.6 that a month of reading these forums for hours a day gave me. A sad lol that gives me.
Have to say again that i'm loving CCP's priorities - some mysterious agent has enabled the assess-plan-act-measure-adapt faculties to be switched on in Shanghai. Who or whatever you are, thank you for giving DUST a future.
What kind of engine enhancements is my question. Are we talking rendering or less visible stuff? What specific parts of the user experience are expected to improve? Are there and areas where player input would be useful here? To some extent these are moot questions since coding prolly started two weeks ago. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
92
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:53:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ... Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago .. Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ... Did u have make such a long post explaining u have no idea what goes into game development. A simple taking to long fix would have done the trick
TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary)
Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:-
Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed.
Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm.
Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta.
Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.
TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta |
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Your Absolut End
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
200
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:05:00 -
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yeeehaaaa, another minor update just when the PS4 hits the market, I'm sure this is gonna drag people in this game like crazy, keep up the good work CCP lol |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
1070
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:10:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ... Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago .. Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ... Did u have make such a long post explaining u have no idea what goes into game development. A simple taking to long fix would have done the trick TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary) Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:- Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed. Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm. Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta. Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta .. I have never seen any game developer rebuild an entire matchmaking system from the ground up after it's been released .. hell they don;t even do that in closed BETA lol Yada, yada, yada. That's a lot of wordy outrage. Which, to be fair , many of us have also experienced in this development process. Teach us how to turn back the clock and i'll be impressed.
Failing that, why not focus your obvious talents on guiding us towards a better future? |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
94
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Posted - 2013.10.11 06:25:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ... Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago .. Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ... Did u have make such a long post explaining u have no idea what goes into game development. A simple taking to long fix would have done the trick TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary) Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:- Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed. Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm. Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta. Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta .. I have never seen any game developer rebuild an entire matchmaking system from the ground up after it's been released .. hell they don;t even do that in closed BETA lol Yada, yada, yada. That's a lot of wordy outrage. Which, to be fair , many of us have also experienced in this development process. Teach us how to turn back the clock and i'll be impressed. Failing that, why not focus your obvious talents on guiding us towards a better future?
No , I put TL:DR to give you a quick summary of my point, the definitions of each stage of development was just copy and pasted from a leading MMO game developer, the fact you're trying to troll because you have nothing else to say against my point just shows that I'm right but this is what I've come to expect from a large proportion of this games community ... Troll troll troll ... someone makes a suggestion they don't like instead of discussing solutions they troll ..
TL;DR Grow Up , trolling is for children with sucky lives
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Jinx Rollin
Commando Perkone Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.10.11 07:46:00 -
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By the time 1.7 hits my main will have over 33mil SP - I will have maxed out all skills in the dropsuits upgrade category - what's left for me? Without more content I can only skill into weapons, suits or vehicles that I neither want or need. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
669
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:03:00 -
[25] - Quote
Rinzler XVII wrote: No , I put TL:DR to give you a quick summary of my point, the definitions of each stage of development was just copy and pasted from a leading MMO game developer, the fact you're trying to troll because you have nothing else to say against my point just shows that I'm right but this is what I've come to expect from a large proportion of this games community ... Troll troll troll ... someone makes a suggestion they don't like instead of discussing solutions they troll ..
TL;DR Grow Up , trolling is for children with sucky lives
Quote:beta version (plural beta versions)
(computing, technology) A development status given to a program or application that contains most of the major features, but is not yet complete. Sometimes these versions are released only to a select group of people, or to the general public. The testers are usually expected to report any bugs they encounter or any changes they'd like to see before the final release. This is the second major stage of development following the alpha version, and comes before the release candidate.
the game is not even in beta |
MINA Longstrike
One Shot Killahz
9
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:33:00 -
[26] - Quote
steadyhand amarr wrote:Jesus ccp comon we want new toys
'new content' isn't as important as a working platform for content to be introduced. If you're introducing new things every month and otherwise performing massive overhauls of the game you end up with an unbalanced unplayable mess. You introduce things *slowly* after you have a working platform and make sure things are balanced and fill their own niches afterwords |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9353
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:56:00 -
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Since the cat is out of the bag 1.6 will be 'content' free.
Basically going to try to reduce technical debt down and get the content devs some breathing room.
So bug fixes, optimizations, and engine improvements.
and if I was someone at CCP I would be giving Uprising 1.7 a different name. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1700
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Posted - 2013.10.11 09:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Since the cat is out of the bag 1.6 will be 'content' free.
Basically going to try to reduce technical debt down and get the content devs some breathing room.
So bug fixes, optimizations, and engine improvements.
and if I was someone at CCP I would be giving Uprising 1.7 a different name.
1.7 will be just before Xmas right ? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9353
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Posted - 2013.10.11 09:03:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Since the cat is out of the bag 1.6 will be 'content' free.
Basically going to try to reduce technical debt down and get the content devs some breathing room.
So bug fixes, optimizations, and engine improvements.
and if I was someone at CCP I would be giving Uprising 1.7 a different name. 1.7 will be just before Xmas right ?
I wouldn't know and I wouldn't be able to announce such things. |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers EoN.
115
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Posted - 2013.10.11 09:48:00 -
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1.7 tha xmas patch include feature like Snow ball plasma canon, Candy cane nova knife, heavy santa claus amarr suit ,minnmatar elf scout suit ,Christmas ball grenade ,Santa Claus's flying reindeer sleigh Dropship, Christmas gifts boxes remote explosive, Christmas sound ambiance and music, Icicle Precision strike ,illuminated Christmas light MCC. |
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
824
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:52:00 -
[31] - Quote
Someone wrote: TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary)
Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:-
Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed.
Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm.
Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta.
Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.
TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta .. I have never seen any game developer rebuild an entire matchmaking system from the ground up after it's been released .. hell they don;t even do that in closed BETA lol
This is a PERSISTENT F2P FPS, normal rules don't apply, this game is in constant development! Basic tesring ensures the game works nothing more!
If we were to BETA test until all content was finished, we would never see release!
Like they said in the interview, they are working on a new stat deployment system! This will allow them to make more variations and changes easily! They obviously testing this with the W.A.R suits! However it will also effect the vehicle rework, they will want to move over to the new system before deploying chamges, incase they wish to male more!
Don't forget since uprising 1.0 we have had
Flaylock 3 new terrain boards 1 large socket 1 racial socket set Assault Dropships General Map Improvement Texture, shading, lighting, terrain improvements Massively Improved hit detection fixes Active Scanner , Passive scanner changes Additional WP NPE improvements Squad Finder New Corp Roles And more than I can fit in this post!
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
670
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:23:00 -
[32] - Quote
Monkey MAC wrote: This is a PERSISTENT F2P FPS, normal rules don't apply, this game is in constant development! Basic tesring ensures the game works nothing more!
If we were to BETA test until all content was finished, we would never see release!
Like they said in the interview, they are working on a new stat deployment system! This will allow them to make more variations and changes easily! They obviously testing this with the W.A.R suits! However it will also effect the vehicle rework, they will want to move over to the new system before deploying chamges, incase they wish to male more!
Don't forget since uprising 1.0 we have had
Flaylock 3 new terrain boards 1 large socket 1 racial socket set Assault Dropships General Map Improvement Texture, shading, lighting, terrain improvements Massively Improved hit detection fixes Active Scanner , Passive scanner changes Additional WP NPE improvements Squad Finder New Corp Roles And more than I can fit in this post!
you are not getting the point, there is a different between "all content" and "basic content"
basic content is what this game lacks, that is why this game is beta disguised as a released game. |
Stevez WingYip
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:43:00 -
[33] - Quote
Atli: We needed to give some of the changes planned for 1.5 more more attention, so we moved them to a later release. We are also working on a new cooking system (cooking is what we call the process of taking source assets and preparing them for deployment) that gives us much more flexibility in patching the game. Due to these factors, we decided to focus 1.6 on bug fixing and engine enhancements. Uprising 1.7 is larger in scope than we had planned, but the wait will be worth it.
This is the quote for those that don't want to read it all. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5836
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:48:00 -
[34] - Quote
As much as I want my combat rifle, I'd rather the shots connect first before I get it... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6872
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Posted - 2013.10.11 13:18:00 -
[35] - Quote
Im so happy vehicle relief came on time in 1.5
Did the first line of that article actually refer to 1.5 as a "huge update"
:/ |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
1075
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:04:00 -
[36] - Quote
Stevez WingYip wrote:Atli: We needed to give some of the changes planned for 1.5 more more attention, so we moved them to a later release. We are also working on a new cooking system (cooking is what we call the process of taking source assets and preparing them for deployment) that gives us much more flexibility in patching the game. Due to these factors, we decided to focus 1.6 on bug fixing and engine enhancements. Uprising 1.7 is larger in scope than we had planned, but the wait will be worth it.
This is the quote for those that don't want to read it all. Tbh i love to hear what's going into 1.6 in respect to bug fixes and polishing/porting the engine, but to hear that effort is being put into dev tools that will pay dividends in the future is equally encouraging.
If this keeps up those tires might chirp when we finally shift out of first gear ;) |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1562
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:15:00 -
[37] - Quote
I've hung in there for a long time, but it's looking more and more like I'm about to step away and let that passive SP build up.
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Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
173
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:19:00 -
[38] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and if I was someone at CCP I would be giving Uprising 1.7 a different name.
I see what you did there.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
1538
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Posted - 2013.10.11 15:03:00 -
[39] - Quote
Rinzler XVII wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ... Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago .. Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ... Did u have make such a long post explaining u have no idea what goes into game development. A simple taking to long fix would have done the trick TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary) Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:- Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed. Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm. Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta. Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta .. I have never seen any game developer rebuild an entire matchmaking system from the ground up after it's been released .. hell they don;t even do that in closed BETA lol
To long didn't read.
Only joking :-D:-D
You have clearly made ya mind up but if u think it's so easy please show me your matchmaking formula. Dev's re do their make maker all freaking time. Just normall under a different title and if I have to explain that last bit your beyond help |
Alldin Kan
TeamPlayers EoN.
668
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Posted - 2013.10.11 15:45:00 -
[40] - Quote
Zlocha wrote:According to this interview with Creative director Atli Mar, patch 1.6 will focus on bugs and engine upgrade. CCP just kill Dust on PS3 and begin work on PS4, you lost your chance to make a good game with meaningful experience. YOU'RE DONE HERE. |
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2013.10.11 15:47:00 -
[41] - Quote
Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long.
Finishing and releasing basic content, as in all four racial variants of light, medium, and heavy dropsuit frames and vehicles, is most important. Yours is a close second. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1508
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Posted - 2013.10.11 15:53:00 -
[42] - Quote
Hoping they can squeeze in the Shotgun and Nova Knife improvements. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1126
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:33:00 -
[43] - Quote
So is 1.6 still for vehicles? |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:39:00 -
[44] - Quote
CharCharOdell wrote:So is 1.6 still for vehicles? Apparently no. No guns, no vehicles, no content.
Now all hopes rest on Team True Grit, which always delivers.
P.S.: I said always, no objections! |
Ghost Kaisar
Pradox One
479
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:41:00 -
[45] - Quote
Rinzler XVII wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ... Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago .. Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ... Did u have make such a long post explaining u have no idea what goes into game development. A simple taking to long fix would have done the trick TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary) Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:- Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed. Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm. Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta. Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta .. I have never seen any game developer rebuild an entire matchmaking system from the ground up after it's been released .. hell they don;t even do that in closed BETA lol
+1, 10/10 would read again. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
228
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:45:00 -
[46] - Quote
I expect a light patch to come the next day or a few and a extreme patch to come in 1 month. Thats how my belief is to CCP |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9353
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:02:00 -
[47] - Quote
CharCharOdell wrote:So is 1.6 still for vehicles?
1.6 was never scheduled for vehicle rebalance.
As for everything else while there may be no player content there may be improvements to quality of life in the game and the patch still could be large because of back end systems, who knows. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
487
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:04:00 -
[48] - Quote
So maybe combat and rail rifles in 1.7? |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
238
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:55:00 -
[49] - Quote
The interview was good stuff.
Faquira Bleuetta wrote:1.7 tha xmas patch include feature like Snow ball plasma canon, Candy cane nova knife, heavy santa claus amarr suit ,minnmatar elf scout suit ,Christmas ball grenade ,Santa Claus's flying reindeer sleigh Dropship, Christmas gifts boxes remote explosive, Christmas sound ambiance and music, Icicle Precision strike ,illuminated Christmas light MCC. YES PLEASE |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9354
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:08:00 -
[50] - Quote
Silas Swakhammer wrote:The interview was good stuff. Faquira Bleuetta wrote:1.7 tha xmas patch include feature like Snow ball plasma canon, Candy cane nova knife, heavy santa claus amarr suit ,minnmatar elf scout suit ,Christmas ball grenade ,Santa Claus's flying reindeer sleigh Dropship, Christmas gifts boxes remote explosive, Christmas sound ambiance and music, Icicle Precision strike ,illuminated Christmas light MCC. YES PLEASE
We don't celebrate christmas in new eden, New Years however... |
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Wombat in combat
TeamPlayers EoN.
104
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:29:00 -
[51] - Quote
I would have liked to see some temporary love to the vehicle guys. A new small turret with 0 CPU/PG that shoots blanks. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
840
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:05:00 -
[52] - Quote
Stefan Stahl wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:So is 1.6 still for vehicles? Apparently no. No guns, no vehicles, no content. Now all hopes rest on Team True Grit, which always delivers. P.S.: I said always, no objections!
So we get an empty bag of nothing??
Tick, tock! November 14th is just about here.
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Buttercup Chipmint
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
83
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:22:00 -
[53] - Quote
Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Stefan Stahl wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:So is 1.6 still for vehicles? Apparently no. No guns, no vehicles, no content. Now all hopes rest on Team True Grit, which always delivers. P.S.: I said always, no objections! So we get an empty bag of nothing?? Tick, tock! November 14th is just about here.
Yeah and DUST wont be coming to PS4 for a long time it seems. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115068&find=unread
Maybe by the time it gets to us on PS4 it will be this,
Quote:Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
662
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:26:00 -
[54] - Quote
Zlocha wrote:According to this interview with Creative director Atli Mar, patch 1.6 will focus on bugs and engine upgrade.
winter expansion drops on nov 19th. two weeks after that I bet you get a major dust update.
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1556
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:27:00 -
[55] - Quote
so i cant help but to notice this tend. CCP: "vehical fixes in 1.4!.... sike pushed to 1.5" Playerbase #1: "aw." Playbase #2: "Its okay, be patient."
CCP: "Vehical fixes pushed to 1.6" Playerbase #1: "again? really?" Playerbase #2: "yeah really! HTFU and be patient!"
CCP: "vehical fixes pushed to 1.7" Playerbase #1: "WTF STOP BUFFING AV IN THE MEANTIME" Playerbase#2: "HTFU BE PATIENT"
So im assuming, given this trend and how this playerbase is, if it was say, postponed to 2.0 it would continue. Sucks how this community is. We follow in the steps of CCP http://imgflip.com/i/43vk3
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