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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
824
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:52:00 -
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Someone wrote: TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary)
Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:-
Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed.
Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm.
Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta.
Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.
TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta .. I have never seen any game developer rebuild an entire matchmaking system from the ground up after it's been released .. hell they don;t even do that in closed BETA lol
This is a PERSISTENT F2P FPS, normal rules don't apply, this game is in constant development! Basic tesring ensures the game works nothing more!
If we were to BETA test until all content was finished, we would never see release!
Like they said in the interview, they are working on a new stat deployment system! This will allow them to make more variations and changes easily! They obviously testing this with the W.A.R suits! However it will also effect the vehicle rework, they will want to move over to the new system before deploying chamges, incase they wish to male more!
Don't forget since uprising 1.0 we have had
Flaylock 3 new terrain boards 1 large socket 1 racial socket set Assault Dropships General Map Improvement Texture, shading, lighting, terrain improvements Massively Improved hit detection fixes Active Scanner , Passive scanner changes Additional WP NPE improvements Squad Finder New Corp Roles And more than I can fit in this post!
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
670
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:23:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote: This is a PERSISTENT F2P FPS, normal rules don't apply, this game is in constant development! Basic tesring ensures the game works nothing more!
If we were to BETA test until all content was finished, we would never see release!
Like they said in the interview, they are working on a new stat deployment system! This will allow them to make more variations and changes easily! They obviously testing this with the W.A.R suits! However it will also effect the vehicle rework, they will want to move over to the new system before deploying chamges, incase they wish to male more!
Don't forget since uprising 1.0 we have had
Flaylock 3 new terrain boards 1 large socket 1 racial socket set Assault Dropships General Map Improvement Texture, shading, lighting, terrain improvements Massively Improved hit detection fixes Active Scanner , Passive scanner changes Additional WP NPE improvements Squad Finder New Corp Roles And more than I can fit in this post!
you are not getting the point, there is a different between "all content" and "basic content"
basic content is what this game lacks, that is why this game is beta disguised as a released game. |
Stevez WingYip
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:43:00 -
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Atli: We needed to give some of the changes planned for 1.5 more more attention, so we moved them to a later release. We are also working on a new cooking system (cooking is what we call the process of taking source assets and preparing them for deployment) that gives us much more flexibility in patching the game. Due to these factors, we decided to focus 1.6 on bug fixing and engine enhancements. Uprising 1.7 is larger in scope than we had planned, but the wait will be worth it.
This is the quote for those that don't want to read it all. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5836
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Posted - 2013.10.11 12:48:00 -
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As much as I want my combat rifle, I'd rather the shots connect first before I get it... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6872
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Posted - 2013.10.11 13:18:00 -
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Im so happy vehicle relief came on time in 1.5
Did the first line of that article actually refer to 1.5 as a "huge update"
:/ |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
1075
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:04:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:Atli: We needed to give some of the changes planned for 1.5 more more attention, so we moved them to a later release. We are also working on a new cooking system (cooking is what we call the process of taking source assets and preparing them for deployment) that gives us much more flexibility in patching the game. Due to these factors, we decided to focus 1.6 on bug fixing and engine enhancements. Uprising 1.7 is larger in scope than we had planned, but the wait will be worth it.
This is the quote for those that don't want to read it all. Tbh i love to hear what's going into 1.6 in respect to bug fixes and polishing/porting the engine, but to hear that effort is being put into dev tools that will pay dividends in the future is equally encouraging.
If this keeps up those tires might chirp when we finally shift out of first gear ;) |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1562
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:15:00 -
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I've hung in there for a long time, but it's looking more and more like I'm about to step away and let that passive SP build up.
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Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
173
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Posted - 2013.10.11 14:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: and if I was someone at CCP I would be giving Uprising 1.7 a different name.
I see what you did there.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
1538
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Posted - 2013.10.11 15:03:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ... Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago .. Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ... Did u have make such a long post explaining u have no idea what goes into game development. A simple taking to long fix would have done the trick TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary) Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:- Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed. Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm. Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta. Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta .. I have never seen any game developer rebuild an entire matchmaking system from the ground up after it's been released .. hell they don;t even do that in closed BETA lol
To long didn't read.
Only joking :-D:-D
You have clearly made ya mind up but if u think it's so easy please show me your matchmaking formula. Dev's re do their make maker all freaking time. Just normall under a different title and if I have to explain that last bit your beyond help |
Alldin Kan
TeamPlayers EoN.
668
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Posted - 2013.10.11 15:45:00 -
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Zlocha wrote:According to this interview with Creative director Atli Mar, patch 1.6 will focus on bugs and engine upgrade. CCP just kill Dust on PS3 and begin work on PS4, you lost your chance to make a good game with meaningful experience. YOU'RE DONE HERE. |
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2013.10.11 15:47:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long.
Finishing and releasing basic content, as in all four racial variants of light, medium, and heavy dropsuit frames and vehicles, is most important. Yours is a close second. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1508
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Posted - 2013.10.11 15:53:00 -
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Hoping they can squeeze in the Shotgun and Nova Knife improvements. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1126
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:33:00 -
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So is 1.6 still for vehicles? |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:39:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:So is 1.6 still for vehicles? Apparently no. No guns, no vehicles, no content.
Now all hopes rest on Team True Grit, which always delivers.
P.S.: I said always, no objections! |
Ghost Kaisar
Pradox One
479
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:41:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Engine enhancements and bug fixes are far more important than anything else right now so I agree with ccp, thank god Dust514 is in the hands of ccp and not some of you Berks who would just give us new maps and guns all day long. I wouldn't have RELEASED a game full of bugs,glitches,balance issues and with a massive lack of content in the 1st place ... The fact is once a game has been released all they should need to do is add new content from time to time .. The simple fact is this .. it has been a long long time since the 1st day of BETA ... all the bugs glitches and balance issues should have been sorted out long ago ... the reason people are asking for new stuff is because they have had the same basic stuff for over a year now and this game is missing a huge amount of content that was promised pre BETA ... Everyone bar the odd moron is getting pretty tired of every single update being some sort of fix to a problem that should have been dealt with ages ago .. Your Fanboi logic .. CCP are doing a great job fixing all the problems in the game Reality .. CCP have done a terrible job with this game so far ... because this is a released game all they should be doing now is releasing new content, they shouldn't be trying to fix the basics .... Yes they HAVE to fix the basics but just because they are trying to do that doesn't mean they are doing a good job ... Did u have make such a long post explaining u have no idea what goes into game development. A simple taking to long fix would have done the trick TL;DR Obviously it wasn't long enough as you completely missed my point anyway lol .... I'm not saying it's taking too long to fix, i'm saying it shouldn't need fixing at all !!!!! We aren't in Closed BETA now kiddo (skip to the bottom of the post for the summary) Game Development stages (Because you seem to be reading a bible version of game development whereas I use the scientific definitions) which are:- Alpha Testing or just Alpha GÇô Alpha testing is an early stage of testing of a game. ItGÇÖs usually done after a game just finishes being developed. ItGÇÖs very common for games to be unstable in this stage, as the purpose of alpha testing is to iron out the GÇ£obviousGÇ¥ bugs and glitches. Developers usually conduct Alpha testing internally, meaning gamers will not get a chance to try the game out. Game developers do this because they donGÇÖt want people seeing the game until its further developed. Closed Beta or Close Beta GÇô This stage of testing usually comes right after all the problems discovered in Alpha testing are fixed. The length of closed beta testing really varies from game to game. Some games go through numerous stages of closed beta testing titled GÇ£Closed Beta 2GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 3GÇ¥, GÇ£Closed Beta 4GÇ¥ and so on. As the name implies, this stage of testing is still GÇ£closedGÇ¥ from the public, but is much more extensive than Alpha Testing. Gamers can usually GÇ£applyGÇ¥ for Closed Beta testing, as developers want gamers to GÇ£try outGÇ¥ their game and report any newly discovered bugs to them. ThereGÇÖs no way all of a gameGÇÖs issues can be discovered in Alpha testing, as only a handful of people are trying out the game and looking for bugs. Closed beta on the other hand, is usually open to many more people. Sometimes hundreds sometimes thousands. Since this is a non-public beta test, most of the time characters created during closed beta will be wiped. This means all characters will be deleted when closed beta testing ends. This is not always the case, but is the norm. Open Beta GÇô For all intents and purposes, Open Beta means the MMORPG / MMO is released and available to the public. Anyone can register and download the game. In 95%+ of cases, there arenGÇÖt any more GÇ£character wipesGÇ¥ after open beta, so if you create your character in open beta, you will most likely still have it after the game fully launches. Open Beta is still considering beta testing, but almost all of the bugs / problems with the game have already been worked out. Developers usually focus on enhancing the game by adding new features during open beta rather than fixing bugs, but users are still encourage to submit any bugs they discover during Open Beta. Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away.TL;DR Please note that this game is in the stage which is in bold and underlined and even if im being kind and say that we are in some form of open beta CCP are currently spending all their time fixing bugs and glitches .. this should have been done during closed beta .. I have never seen any game developer rebuild an entire matchmaking system from the ground up after it's been released .. hell they don;t even do that in closed BETA lol
+1, 10/10 would read again. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
228
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:45:00 -
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I expect a light patch to come the next day or a few and a extreme patch to come in 1 month. Thats how my belief is to CCP |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9353
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:02:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:So is 1.6 still for vehicles?
1.6 was never scheduled for vehicle rebalance.
As for everything else while there may be no player content there may be improvements to quality of life in the game and the patch still could be large because of back end systems, who knows. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
487
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:04:00 -
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So maybe combat and rail rifles in 1.7? |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
238
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:55:00 -
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The interview was good stuff.
Faquira Bleuetta wrote:1.7 tha xmas patch include feature like Snow ball plasma canon, Candy cane nova knife, heavy santa claus amarr suit ,minnmatar elf scout suit ,Christmas ball grenade ,Santa Claus's flying reindeer sleigh Dropship, Christmas gifts boxes remote explosive, Christmas sound ambiance and music, Icicle Precision strike ,illuminated Christmas light MCC. YES PLEASE |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9354
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:08:00 -
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Silas Swakhammer wrote:The interview was good stuff. Faquira Bleuetta wrote:1.7 tha xmas patch include feature like Snow ball plasma canon, Candy cane nova knife, heavy santa claus amarr suit ,minnmatar elf scout suit ,Christmas ball grenade ,Santa Claus's flying reindeer sleigh Dropship, Christmas gifts boxes remote explosive, Christmas sound ambiance and music, Icicle Precision strike ,illuminated Christmas light MCC. YES PLEASE
We don't celebrate christmas in new eden, New Years however... |
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Wombat in combat
TeamPlayers EoN.
104
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:29:00 -
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I would have liked to see some temporary love to the vehicle guys. A new small turret with 0 CPU/PG that shoots blanks. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
840
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:05:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:So is 1.6 still for vehicles? Apparently no. No guns, no vehicles, no content. Now all hopes rest on Team True Grit, which always delivers. P.S.: I said always, no objections!
So we get an empty bag of nothing??
Tick, tock! November 14th is just about here.
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Buttercup Chipmint
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
83
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:22:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Stefan Stahl wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:So is 1.6 still for vehicles? Apparently no. No guns, no vehicles, no content. Now all hopes rest on Team True Grit, which always delivers. P.S.: I said always, no objections! So we get an empty bag of nothing?? Tick, tock! November 14th is just about here.
Yeah and DUST wont be coming to PS4 for a long time it seems. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115068&find=unread
Maybe by the time it gets to us on PS4 it will be this,
Quote:Commercial Release GÇô The game is fully released and is no longer in any testing stages. Developers focus on expanding the gameGÇÖs features and content instead of hunting for bugs to fix. Like in open beta, anyone can register and begin playing the game right away. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
662
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:26:00 -
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Zlocha wrote:According to this interview with Creative director Atli Mar, patch 1.6 will focus on bugs and engine upgrade.
winter expansion drops on nov 19th. two weeks after that I bet you get a major dust update.
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1556
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:27:00 -
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so i cant help but to notice this tend. CCP: "vehical fixes in 1.4!.... sike pushed to 1.5" Playerbase #1: "aw." Playbase #2: "Its okay, be patient."
CCP: "Vehical fixes pushed to 1.6" Playerbase #1: "again? really?" Playerbase #2: "yeah really! HTFU and be patient!"
CCP: "vehical fixes pushed to 1.7" Playerbase #1: "WTF STOP BUFFING AV IN THE MEANTIME" Playerbase#2: "HTFU BE PATIENT"
So im assuming, given this trend and how this playerbase is, if it was say, postponed to 2.0 it would continue. Sucks how this community is. We follow in the steps of CCP http://imgflip.com/i/43vk3
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