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Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 165	Posted - 2013.10.12 21:02:00 - [31] - Quote bump
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 167	Posted - 2013.10.14 17:47:00 - [32] - Quote So I've been thinking about the idea to have Biotics, and Kincats, effect Base Movement instead of Sprint Speed, and the more I think about, the more I like the idea. I think this would really help all Light Frames survive a little longer on the battlefield. Since Strafe Speeds are based off of Base Movement it would make Scouts harder to hit (although still wafer thin). Something that we've been requesting for awhile. It would also help my Ninja Knifing brethren in that they would be better able to chase down their prey, while having their knives charged. Making them truly formidable in CQC again. Also, with the increased Base Speeds we'd be able to use out favored hit and run tactics more efficiently, as we'd be able to enter the battle, deal damage, and then leave again with the possibility of not getting killed by the first person to land a clean shot. Since Sprinting is interrupted by changing mags, firing, switching equipment ,etc., the increased speeds would allow us to do these things without the need for Sprinting, or using our precious stamina. Like I said, I'm going to try to keep this page up for awhile, so feel free to help out by posting a +1, or leaving like.
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 168	Posted - 2013.10.15 08:34:00 - [33] - Quote bump
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 168	Posted - 2013.10.17 04:52:00 - [34] - Quote bump
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 170	Posted - 2013.10.17 23:51:00 - [35] - Quote Shamefully shameless bumb
Outer Raven Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 7	Posted - 2013.10.18 00:17:00 - [36] - Quote This isn't bad, like how you included the suits that aren't here yet which most posts I see fail to the remember to include when talking about "balance". Sure certain base speeds could be tweeked but it helps establish some semblance of lore with the different faction suits which I think is something that's missing right now. I believe that the slot layouts now with a combination of the OP would be a good start for a balancing act. Sure the Gal scout has the "potential" to be faster than Minnie but its gives something up to accomplish this same as any an all suits should. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ GÇ£Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.GÇ¥ GÇò Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 171	Posted - 2013.10.19 14:20:00 - [37] - Quote Bump
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 172	Posted - 2013.11.15 07:19:00 - [38] - Quote Bumping an old thread because I still think this needs to be done. Or something like it, anyway.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 212	Posted - 2013.11.15 09:04:00 - [39] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Gallente is faster than the Caldari. adjust it. Thats the way it is in EVE the Gallente there is the secoond fastest...
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 176	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:35:00 - [40] - Quote Dusting off an old thread here. Just seeing how people feel about it in relation to the changes coming in 1.8.

Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 189	Posted - 2014.02.13 05:46:00 - [41] - Quote I still want this
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 531	Posted - 2014.02.13 06:23:00 - [42] - Quote +1 for do want. Edit: What about logis? Same speed as medium frame?
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 189	Posted - 2014.02.13 06:30:00 - [43] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: +1 for do want. Edit: What about logis? Same speed as medium frame? Yes. Sentinels, Logi's, and the up and coming SoonTM Pilot Suits would share the speed of the Base Frame.
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 98	Posted - 2014.02.13 14:58:00 - [44] - Quote With cloak plus the additional equipment and module slots and the aim of increasing TTK I dont think we will see some of the speed changes. Maybe later in the year after we have seen how the balance of the suit changes are playing out. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 236	Posted - 2014.02.25 03:04:00 - [45] - Quote Bumping this again as a reply to a lot of the complaints I'm seeing in regards to the Amarr Scouts base speed.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1088	Posted - 2014.02.25 03:22:00 - [46] - Quote +1'd it before and would do it again if I could. Still want it.
Kelrie Nae'bre not in a corporation 211	Posted - 2014.02.25 03:27:00 - [47] - Quote I recall... some CPM.... IWS? Stating that the speed on suits wouldn't get higher than the current Minmatar for engine reasons. Do you have a set of potential speeds taking that into accout?
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2014.02.25 03:54:00 - [48] - Quote Unless my math is completely wrong (and it could be, some one might want to double check), then we're looking at a .55 Maximum Speed increase. The fastest suit in the game, due to slot layout, is the Gallente Scout, which has a maximum speed (with Level 5 Biotics, Level 5 KinKats, and 4 Complex Reds) of 11.14 mps while sprinting. The new maximum (assuming skills don't change) will be 11.69 mps while sprinting. It's not really something I'm worried about due to the fitting requirements of KinKats at that level.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1781	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:34:00 - [49] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Hagintora wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Gallente is faster than the Caldari. adjust it. According to the Market in game, the Gallente and Caldari Medium Frame, Logistics, and Assault Suits all move at the same speed (5m, and 7m for the Frame and Assault Suits and 4.7, and 6.58 for the Logi's). I just took that idea and applied to the other Frame suits as well. If you can tell me how much faster the Gallente suits are (and where you got that information), I'd be more than happy to adjust it. Some one told me that in EVE, the Caldari Ships are actually slower than the Gallente innately, it's just that Gallente armor tanking slows them down. That's why I said that. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1341	Posted - 2014.02.27 21:32:00 - [50] - Quote I like this idea alot, not only the speed changes across the board but specifically the biotics skill effecting base movement speed. As a scout strafing is key to my play style and without packing any HP mods being mobile is of primary importance when engaging an enemy and surviving a fire fight. I'd easily take this over the introduction of the cloak. Double posting like a Kaiser. (Homage to Ghost Kaiser's impeccable forum etiquette)

Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 251	Posted - 2014.02.27 22:10:00 - [51] - Quote Beren Hurin also has some fantastic ideas about altering things like turn speed, backpedallng, and strafe speed bonuses that will really make each race feel unique.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4719	Posted - 2014.02.28 10:31:00 - [52] - Quote wish we knew what turn speed was so you could include that too. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 261	Posted - 2014.03.01 07:57:00 - [53] - Quote Beren Hurin said he's working on a chart that will map out all of the modifiers to pretty much everything associated with movement and agility. When he's posted that I'll start adding them the OP. Then we'll have different races with different turn speeds and different strafe speeds, as well as different base and sprint speeds. Once they been applied (according to each races combat philosophy), we'll really feel the difference between them. I can't wait to see what he's got.
mollerz 2494	Posted - 2014.03.01 08:22:00 - [54] - Quote Awesome. Thanks for throwing this out there. I hope CCP gives it a serious look and follows your lead. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 262	Posted - 2014.03.01 08:42:00 - [55] - Quote Much appreciated, and until then I intend to keep this thread alive for as long as I can. On a side note, if anybody wants to post the combat philosopies of the different races, or links to where I can find this information, it would be much appreciated. I have never played EVE so I don't have a lot to go on besides what Dust has provided, and I would like to do this right. Thank you in advance to whoever helps out.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4804	Posted - 2014.03.06 09:49:00 - [56] - Quote still a good idea Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 290	Posted - 2014.03.08 10:17:00 - [57] - Quote Decided to include vehicle speeds as well. Put it on the first page to consolidate information. Let me know what you think.


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