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meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 534	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:10:00 - [1] - Quote God news if you ask me, but still they could have been better. Like hiring some one from BF3 not the "Heroes" guy. One of many sources out there: http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/08/ccp-games-hires-former-battlefield-heroes-executive-producer-jean-charles-to-head-up-dust-514-team/ What do you guys think?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9317	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:12:00 - [2] - Quote I am pretty sure Battlefield Heroes =/= Battlefield Play 4 Free
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1413	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:14:00 - [3] - Quote Yea Rouge is a good addition.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 534	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:16:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: =/= Is this the same as Gëá?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9317	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:18:00 - [5] - Quote meri jin wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: =/= Is this the same as Gëá? yes I dont know my key combos anymore.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 534	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:26:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am pretty sure Battlefield Heroes =/= Battlefield Play 4 Free OK now that I understand that Battlefield Heroes is (probably) not equal Battlefield Play 4 Free I still don't understand what you are trying to say. I don't know this to games, are this two completely different games?
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 329	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:30:00 - [7] - Quote Battlefield Heroes and Battlefield Play4Free are two separate games. Heroes is a cartoony TPS, and Play4Free is basically Battlefield 2. Both of them are free to play games, though. It's kind of a pointless distinction though, because he's worked on both of them as the executive producer.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 534	Posted - 2013.10.09 05:34:00 - [8] - Quote Sete Clifton wrote: Battlefield Heroes and Battlefield Play4Free are two separate games. Heroes is a cartoony TPS, and Play4Free is basically Battlefield 2. Both of them are free to play games, though. It's kind of a pointless discussion though, because this guy worked on both of them as the executive producer. Thanks! And are this game good? I mean, is this guy worth hoping? Btw. is this not a discussion about the two games, I was asking for a explanation. I also would like to know WHEN he starts or if he already started.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1809	Posted - 2013.10.09 06:19:00 - [9] - Quote I think there might actually be hope, I'm not kidding The past 6 months have been a rag tag crew of devs with no one leading them. They've done good work but the game needs a lot of work and a fresh pair of eyes can only spell a new direction ! Be optimist! This game is already great in the ways it's stands apart, but it could be so much more! It just needs a roadmap and to be fair it's kinda hard to make a roadmap when no one is controlling the direction.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 535	Posted - 2013.10.09 06:52:00 - [10] - Quote So this guy need to move to Shanghai, poor soul. Must be hard to leave friends and family behind. Lets hope he is a fan of talking to the community about future plans? :)

Novawolf McDustingham The514th The Official Mintchip Fanclub 359	Posted - 2013.10.09 06:59:00 - [11] - Quote He took a lot of heat from players when BFH went more toward Pay2Win. He has a video presentation defending the decisions he made to make the game profitable showing that he indeed did that. One thing that BFH had going for it was the fact that the actual in game mechanics and balance were sound to begin with. It was no TF2, but it was decent. Dust 514 is no where near being in league with either of those games on a fundamental level so that's where the focus of his work should begin - building a box around all this sand. Then he can go about making the game profitable.
Calroon DeVil Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 141	Posted - 2013.10.09 07:09:00 - [12] - Quote The failure that is Dust 514, continues. At least they stick to continuously making stupid decisions. I'll give them that. Good job CCP.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 535	Posted - 2013.10.09 07:13:00 - [13] - Quote Calroon DeVil wrote: The failure that is Dust 514, continues. At least they stick to continuously making stupid decisions. I'll give them that. Good job CCP. Why?
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1811	Posted - 2013.10.09 07:53:00 - [14] - Quote meri jin wrote: Calroon DeVil wrote: The failure that is Dust 514, continues. At least they stick to continuously making stupid decisions. I'll give them that. Good job CCP. Why? He doesn't BELIEVE
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 536	Posted - 2013.10.09 08:08:00 - [15] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: meri jin wrote: Calroon DeVil wrote: The failure that is Dust 514, continues. At least they stick to continuously making stupid decisions. I'll give them that. Good job CCP. Why? He doesn't BELIEVE This or he knows more? But then he would probably write more down and not only rants.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 649	Posted - 2013.10.09 08:15:00 - [16] - Quote dont be mad, how can be hiring an experienced developer be a bad idea?
Beforcial REAPERS REPUBLIC 31	Posted - 2013.10.09 08:33:00 - [17] - Quote This is so good news i am still not expecting anything special. To be realistic no new content till next year for sure now and honestly i think it's for the better. Let them work it out till Fanfest, then show us what they have in their wizard sleeve.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 536	Posted - 2013.10.09 08:36:00 - [18] - Quote Beforcial wrote: This is so good news i am still not expecting anything special. To be realistic no new content till next year for sure now and honestly i think it's for the better. Let them work it out till Fanfest, then show us what they have in their wizard sleeve. Wait till May? Meh.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 536	Posted - 2013.10.09 09:31:00 - [19] - Quote LOL. Just got my Destiny Betaaccesskey from Amazon
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1298	Posted - 2013.10.09 12:10:00 - [20] - Quote Another EA failure joins Its a conspiracy

igger tig Wyrd Sisters 0	Posted - 2013.10.09 12:35:00 - [21] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: . . . It just needs a roadmap.... Any map would be good
Purona The Vanguardians 67	Posted - 2013.10.09 12:37:00 - [22] - Quote igger tig wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: . . . It just needs a roadmap.... Any map would be good at this point it just needs an arrow
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 979	Posted - 2013.10.09 12:45:00 - [23] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: dont be mad, how can be hiring an experienced developer be a bad idea? Because it's DICE / EA.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 536	Posted - 2013.10.09 14:27:00 - [24] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Jack McReady wrote: dont be mad, how can be hiring an experienced developer be a bad idea? Because it's DICE / EA. DICE is (for the moment) the only thing that I like in EA.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1120	Posted - 2013.10.09 14:47:00 - [25] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Jack McReady wrote: dont be mad, how can be hiring an experienced developer be a bad idea? Because it's DICE / EA. When has dice done wrong? other then mix reaction with BF3? (even with that. BF3 wasn't terrible) Have you played BF games before 3? BF1942 BF2 BF2142 BF bad company BFBC 2 BFBC Vietnam BF3 BF F2P you forgot heroes Shut up. just shut up..
Sylwester Dziewiecki Beyond Hypothetical Box 185	Posted - 2013.10.09 14:51:00 - [26] - Quote Battlefield Heroes is carton-FPS designed for yonges FPS players that are out there. This game have no blood, violence etc. and it it mainly P2W similar to Battlefield Play 4 Free with is a little bit of a modified BF2. I do not think that it is worth to play these games. If you have bought of buddies just buy PC version of Modern Warfare 1 and play on local with them <- it's gonna bring you way much more fun than spending a loooot of cash on that "free to play" products.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 536	Posted - 2013.10.09 14:56:00 - [27] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Battlefield Heroes is carton-FPS designed for yonges FPS players that are out there. This game have no blood, violence etc. and it it mainly P2W similar to Battlefield Play 4 Free with is a little bit of a modified BF2. I do not think that it is worth to play these games. If you have bought of buddies just buy PC version of Modern Warfare 1 and play on local with them <- it's gonna bring you way much more fun than spending a loooot of cash on that "free to play" products. Yes and I'm getting scared that Dust will become P2W as well :-/
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1121	Posted - 2013.10.09 15:10:00 - [28] - Quote meri jin wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Battlefield Heroes is carton-FPS designed for yonges FPS players that are out there. This game have no blood, violence etc. and it it mainly P2W similar to Battlefield Play 4 Free with is a little bit of a modified BF2. I do not think that it is worth to play these games. If you have bought of buddies just buy PC version of Modern Warfare 1 and play on local with them <- it's gonna bring you way much more fun than spending a loooot of cash on that "free to play" products. Yes and I'm getting scared that Dust will become P2W as well :-/ Thing is that on console's the P2W becomes murky. But I agree with that if a game is F2P it should be that way. But as for paid games like the rest of BF and other games on consoles. (and many competitive games) SHORT CUTS are almost common now. Don't feel like unlocking all the guns? Pay $20 and it's yours. Don't want to unlock all cars? $20 bucks and its yours. Different is that most FPS games ones HP is the same for everyone. So it really doesn't matter witch gun you pick cause I've known guys who all they use in knives.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 1067	Posted - 2013.10.09 15:21:00 - [29] - Quote I haven't done my research on those F2P Battlefield titles our new EP worked on. I know players didn't like changes made to the revenue model of one of those titles, but my primary concern re DUST is how were the core mechanics, 'feel' and attention to detail? Seems like both were fairly solid at first glance. Second concern is that those games were sharded, so wondering how well skills and experience in getting core mechanics working there port to our situation here in DUST. I did see in a one line blurb that he said he was an EVE player. If true that always makes me hopeful because without experienceing it and being attracted to it, New Eden is a hard thing to 'get'. Tbh i'm not worried about DUST's connection to EVE/New Eden at all - the only reason it hasn't happened is because CCP isn't going to be pushed into it without taking care of the core FPS experience first, and wisely so. And those connections need to made in concert with Seagull and EVE-side dev team and although the DUST EP will no doubt play a role in that, there's much more to the story, imho. Time will tell.
dazlb72 HELGHAN EXILES 76	Posted - 2013.10.09 15:34:00 - [30] - Quote They would have been better off getting Angie Smets or Steven ter Heide from guerilla. They have been working on exclusive ps3/4 titles for years, so they know this system inside out

steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1506	Posted - 2013.10.09 16:14:00 - [31] - Quote Yeh but they most likely happy where they are. This guy sounds like he GTFO out of EA and their ridget mindset of making games to dust where he can experiment a little more
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 539	Posted - 2013.10.09 16:44:00 - [32] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Yeh but they most likely happy where they are. This guy sounds like he GTFO out of EA and their ridget mindset of making games to dust where he can experiment a little more I hope he tries this time not to make a pure P2W game.
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 515	Posted - 2013.10.09 16:49:00 - [33] - Quote Battlefield Heroes was heavily pay-to-win. I'm not holding my breath.
Justice Prevails Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2013.10.09 17:07:00 - [34] - Quote Look at this way. CCP is still hiring people to work on Dust, meaning they haven't given up on it. I see this as good news.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 540	Posted - 2013.10.09 17:44:00 - [35] - Quote Justice Prevails wrote: Look at this way. CCP is still hiring people to work on Dust, meaning they haven't given up on it. I see this as good news. Didn't they fire the other one?
8213 Grade No.2 341	Posted - 2013.10.09 17:59:00 - [36] - Quote This guy is mostly responsible for EA being voted the worst company in the world 2 years running(not just video game company, but a business overall). He is cancer, and only makes games into F2P profiteering schemes. DUST 514 is good as waste. CCP could only acquire the barrel's bottom at this point. The DUST project will be a short term ruin. I expect a huge revamp to the payment and revenue system as the first large overhaul and update under this new Executive Producer.
Justice Prevails Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2013.10.09 18:06:00 - [37] - Quote meri jin wrote: Justice Prevails wrote: Look at this way. CCP is still hiring people to work on Dust, meaning they haven't given up on it. I see this as good news. Didn't they fire the other one? Lol. Oh well, so much for happy thoughts.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 586	Posted - 2013.10.09 18:21:00 - [38] - Quote meri jin wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Yeh but they most likely happy where they are. This guy sounds like he GTFO out of EA and their ridget mindset of making games to dust where he can experiment a little more I hope he tries this time not to make a pure P2W game. CCP had to lay off a significant portion of their employees and their CEO had to make a public apology last time they pushed the micro-transaction model too far. I'm reasonably comfortable that head office will have given a clear steer to their new executive producer that Pay2Win is not an option to be explored.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 543	Posted - 2013.10.10 05:14:00 - [39] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: meri jin wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Yeh but they most likely happy where they are. This guy sounds like he GTFO out of EA and their ridget mindset of making games to dust where he can experiment a little more I hope he tries this time not to make a pure P2W game. CCP had to lay off a significant portion of their employees and their CEO had to make a public apology last time they pushed the micro-transaction model too far. I'm reasonably comfortable that head office will have given a clear steer to their new executive producer that Pay2Win is not an option to be explored. Last time it was EVE, you have to pay for it. But this time it is a F2P and I agree on the point that EA, mirco transaction and this P2W/F2P models are the modern day cancer for video games. This dude is the second EA employe that CCP hire.


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